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102697   WookieMan   2019 May 14, 10:20am  

You know at some point it doesn't matter. Could cause cancer or not. You know there's going to be Square Down(TM) introduced in 2 years and not a single person will know the fucking difference.
102698   kt1652   2019 May 14, 10:59am  

They get the science that they paid for, there is never any conflict of interest. lol.
I also wish Roundup was harmless, it is so effective in killing anything green that grows.
It is almost common sense that a chemical so powerful is likely to contaminate and imperil the entire bio food chain.
Examples of funding bias: Splenda is safe, tobacco industry funded studies to undermine cancer link, DDT, statin drugs,
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https://www.nrdc.org/experts/jennifer-sass/atsdr-report-confirms-glyphosate-cancer-risks
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Weed killer residues found in 98 percent of Canadian honey samples
Study is the latest evidence that glyphosate herbicides are so pervasive that residues can be found in foods not produced by farmers using glyphosate.
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Carey Gillam: "Right. Of course, it is Bayer and Monsanto’s argument, or position, that the science is on their side, that the weight of scientific evidence shows no cancer risk, no carcinogenicity connection to its glyphosate-based herbicides like Roundup. But the evidence tells us otherwise.
And, of course, I’ve written a whole book about it, and talked about it many times. The weight of scientific evidence, published peer-reviewed epidemiology, toxicology, mechanistic data done over multiple years, multiple countries, does indeed show a cancer risk associated with these herbicides, with clear association to non-Hodgkin’s lymphoma. And that’s what caused the International Agency for Research on Cancer, in 2015, to classify glyphosate, the main ingredient in Monsanto’s Roundup, as a probable human carcinogen. So there’s a great deal of scientific evidence, and that’s what is convincing juries.
But the second leg of this, or the second part of it, is there’s also a great deal of evidence of Monsanto’s manipulation of the scientific record. So when Monsanto says it has all of this science on its side, well, we know now from internal Monsanto documents, that a lot of that science they point to is science that they paid for, that they wrote, that they ghostwrote, that they manipulated—that they essentially had a hand in creating a safety narrative that really was not true."

I don't support frivolous lawsuits, but there is often another side to the story.
102699   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 May 14, 11:12am  

jazz_music says
Capitalism: EVERY FUCKING THING is a commodity to be exhausted. Guess what; that includes you and me too.


And the Communist regimes in Poland and the DDR had a file on literally everybody. Merkle was a Communist leader for years, then magically became a "Conservative" two weeks after the fall of the DDR. She also wanted to appoint an old Stassi Witch to her Social Media Censorship boards.
102700   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 May 14, 11:12am  

jazz_music says
Basically all you guys have to start realizing is that things are not so cool. You have been given some privilege and you do valuable hard brain work until you can't stand it any more. But then you want to act like these paycheck writers are like your father and are to be trusted, respected and obeyed, when in reality they are making undermining all of you into a fucking science every fucking minute of every fucking day. And they will too.


Now do Ghetto Hos with 3 kids from 3 felon fathers.
102701   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 May 14, 11:25am  

jazz_music says
When you want to know what it means to be a man, you tune into some sales fuck with testosterone boosters for sale, or you go work out until you look like an exo-skeleton man and flex for the girls. LOL


Like this Tough Guy/Xir/Xe?

102702   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 May 14, 11:28am  

jazz_music says
USA suffers from a populous that is both dumbed down and disinformed to be relied upon to act with a child's trust.



Yep, and it's gotten worse since K-12 and Higher Ed is focused on brainwashing PostModern Oppression Theory into their students.



Here's a guy who couldn't do violence to a pickle jar lid.
102703   ForcedTQ   2019 May 14, 3:10pm  

The stupid and ignorant think that Roundup is evil and the devil, what they should be talking about is the active ingredient Glyphosate. If Glyphosate is truly cancer causing, then ALL companies that utilize it as an ingredient in their herbicides should be at risk/required to do something to fix the damage and remove it from future production.
102704   RWSGFY   2019 May 14, 3:17pm  

zzyzzx says
Simple, don't sell Roundup (and all it's generics) in California and see what happens. Hint: This will generate lots of complaints.


Why?
102705   Shaman   2019 May 14, 3:47pm  

My best friend in college grew up on a property surrounded by corn farms. His sister developed non-Hodgekins lymphoma at age of 18, and died by age of 20... on my fucking birthday.

I hate Roundup.
102706   Bd6r   2019 May 14, 4:33pm  

WookieMan says
999 out of 1,000 a cop killing you is your fault.

Not true...I'd say it is may be 10/1 guilty/not guilty shootings. And in case of citizen being Not guilty, such as here: https://abc13.com/warrant-informant-didnt-buy-drugs-from-couple-killed-in-raid/5140341/ the guilty police will not get the CHAIR! which any other citizen would get if he would barge into someone's home without any reason and would shoot inhabitants dead.
102707   Bd6r   2019 May 14, 4:40pm  

With respect to OP, I would like to start making the stand by demanding that i am not called a Fucking White Male and being accused of whatever privilege and oppression of minorities, womyn, and everyone else in Universe. After that, we can discuss the rest.
102708   Shaman   2019 May 14, 4:45pm  

jazz_music says
So, 3 people have 90% of America’s wealth


#fakenews
102709   RC2006   2019 May 14, 5:32pm  

It's nasty shit for sure I use no poisons/roundup and have little to no insect or weed issues. Shit kills all the amphibians and bees in the area.
102710   WookieMan   2019 May 14, 6:46pm  

jazz_music says
Ever notice how convenient friendships tend to be these days? There used to be a little thing called community, and the essence of American life stemmed from that when people really knew each other and maybe even cared about each other IN A SUBSTANTIAL WAY, even helped each other with raising their kids, and other issues that come up. Now there's Facebook and the unreality of all that.


Where in the actual fuck do you live? Seriously? You may want to think about relocating or maybe changing attitude so people are more willing to help you out. All I have is friendly neighbors and people around me that I'd trust to watch my kids for a week in an emergency. And we're talking non-family.

My perception of you here really doesn't matter on an anonymous forum. But at the end fo the day, I'm not sure I'd want you as a neighbor or friend. Even if it's fake outrage, I have a feeling it's crept into your real world. Life is good man. Or at least as good as you make it. Stop trying to find all the negatives. Your state rep if fucking you over harder than Trump, but hey, he's an easy target I suppose for those swallowing the media BS.
102711   WookieMan   2019 May 14, 7:20pm  

Quigley says
My best friend in college grew up on a property surrounded by corn farms. His sister developed non-Hodgekins lymphoma at age of 18, and died by age of 20... on my fucking birthday.


Where at? I assume midwest? Assume there may have been a basement? Radon is legit here and not some Realtor home inspector scam. Also lot's of radium in wells. Round Up really is a minimal factor in small towns or country living. Could have been a lot of things.

And, no, I'm not a fan of chemicals. Just might be a stretch to attribute Round Up to someone getting a disease at an abnormally young age and it being terminal so quickly.
102712   WookieMan   2019 May 14, 10:04pm  

jazz_music says
You are groomed to blow money and work yourself into a frenzy to pay off stupid debt. Save your money. Get involved. Keep seeking truth. Love the truth and try in some quiet and very substantial way to love your neighbors as you love yourself.


Lol. I don't work right now. I have no debt. I am involved (minimally on a library board). I know the truth.

Your view of the world is warped. You're looking for negative when the lives for 10/10 people are better than they were just 10 years ago. Turn the TV off man or get better BP meds. You're too high strung.
102713   WookieMan   2019 May 14, 10:27pm  

jazz_music says
Who is your response for really? Your status with the esteemed right wing cohorts? Certainly not for me. You wouldn’t talk like that to someone who might be your customer would you? —no, you would suck up like a good fuck-weasel wouldn’t you? The phony nice facade you give your fucking neighbors. LOL


My response was for you. Which you addressed nothing of which I asked. Which is fine.

1) I'm not right wing. Look at my comments like you've asked me to do of you.
2) I run a business. I can talk to customers however I want. So far it has kept me in business.
3) Fuck-weasel (not sure why the hyphen). Don't suck up to anyone, don't get the point.
4) You need new neighbors. I'm convinced you live next to shitwad's and that is tainting your perspective.
5) You're likely bitching about your own life on a site called patrick.net. Is that winning? (that's not a negative on the site Patrick, just making a point)
102714   Booger   2019 May 15, 5:01am  

So the Chinese are going to stop buying made in China cell phones in protest?
102715   Shaman   2019 May 15, 5:08am  

jazz_music says
Go ahead, how much between Gates, Bezos and Buffet?


Do your own research! That’s how we got to this point, an it’s not like you’d accept my results anyway.
102716   WookieMan   2019 May 15, 9:01am  

HonkpilledMaster says
I wonder what would happen if you only looked at Whites.


I didn't want to go there myself, but that's what I thought when I saw the list of states for each item. (yes I know this is a somewhat oldish post)

And how the fuck does WY show up twice on that list? You can't create a serious list and bash WY if you haven't been there. While it's not some massive GDP bull, it's a cool fucking state. I guess leftists hate two of the greatest parks, that aren't being drilled for oil..... in the fucking world. This is nuts.
102717   Bd6r   2019 May 15, 9:28am  

I do not think that OP is exactly correct. From wiki,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_educational_attainment


Both "progressive" CA and "regressive" TX are at the very end.
102718   WookieMan   2019 May 15, 9:36am  

d6rB says
Both "progressive" CA and "regressive" TX are at the very end.


Good catch. And WY is kicking high school ass. lol.

I'm sure I'll get called racist, but do any of the top 11 even crack 15-20% minority population (hispanic/black)? I think Honk has a valid point on this topic. And how in the flying fuck does an entire state not graduate 20% of their k-12 students? That's fucking embarrassing.
102719   clambo   2019 May 15, 10:26am  

My assets herewith but not broken down to types of stock funds.

85% + stocks; principally mutual funds of several types.

Some in balanced funds; Vanguard Wellington, Vanguard Wellesley Income .

5% High Yield Corporate fund, 5% High Yield Muni bond fund.

11% Individual stocks: the % of this is growing because I bought some shares of AAPL (Apple) and this went up a bunch.

1. AAPL (Apple) ; a bunch
2. WFC (Wells Fargo) ; some
3. MSFT (Microsoft) ;some
4. DE (John Deere) ; a little bit
5. BABA (Alibaba) ; a little bit

The registration (type of account) of the mutual funds varies;

1. Roth IRA
2. SEP-IRA
3. Traditional IRA
4. Vanguard Variable Annuity
5. HSA at Fidelity; Health Savings Account; this is invested in mutual funds and will be spent like a traditional IRA
6. Taxable, "regular accounts" including Vanguard Tax Managed Capital Appreciation and others less tax efficient.

The coolest is the HSA because this is deductible before everything else; it reduces your Obamacare premium pay back liability. I wish I did this earlier.
102720   Shaman   2019 May 15, 10:34am  

Sounds like wise advice.
I’d put the 5% collectibles into fine art. That always appreciates.
102721   KgK one   2019 May 15, 11:19am  

How about cds at 2.5%,stock market is high pe. Waiting for 20% correction
Or BerkB ,
What r good div stocks currently?
I

Why muni, pays 1to 2% barely?
Why annuity vs cds?
102722   Bd6r   2019 May 15, 11:31am  

WookieMan says
do any of the top 11 even crack 15-20% minority population (hispanic/black)?

Hawaii, majority Asian and mixed; Alaska, White ca 65%, American Indian/Aleut 20%. Interestingly, AK is solid R.
102723   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 May 15, 11:44am  

Hawaii passes a lot of kids they shouldn't. Sure there are Japanese but there are also lazy, grumpy Native Hawaiians who don't appreciate that if it wasn't for the US taking them over, the Imperial Japanese would have exterminated them.
102724   Heraclitusstudent   2019 May 15, 11:59am  

Collectables or collectibles?

Is "fine art" liquid? Gold coins?
102725   Heraclitusstudent   2019 May 15, 12:07pm  

Regarding fine art "always appreciates". Consider BID...
A good indicator of excess liquidity.
Doesn't always appreciate.
102726   HeadSet   2019 May 15, 12:15pm  

"The Last Time There Was This Much CO2, Trees Grew at the South Pole"

Then why aren't trees growing at the South Pole now? Talk about deluded.
102727   HeadSet   2019 May 15, 1:32pm  

HEYYOU says
HeadSet says
Then why aren't trees growing at the South Pole now?


How do you know there is a South Pole?



How do I know? Because I have been there. No trees either, I had to trek 1,000 miles for my dog to take a piss.
102728   zzyzzx   2019 May 15, 1:37pm  

KgK one says
How about cds at 2.5%,stock market is high pe. Waiting for 20% correction


How do you make the CD's expire at the right time?
102729   zzyzzx   2019 May 15, 1:47pm  

KgK one says
How about cds at 2.5%,stock market is high pe. Waiting for 20% correction


How do you make the CD's expire at the right time?
102730   zzyzzx   2019 May 15, 1:49pm  

Layoffs are now done on a quarterly basis. This is the same company that took away people vested defined benefit pensions, and did some serious salary range reductions last year.
102731   Rin   2019 May 15, 5:32pm  

HeadSet says
HEYYOU says
HeadSet says
Then why aren't trees growing at the South Pole now?


How do you know there is a South Pole?



How do I know? Because I have been there. No trees either, I had to trek 1,000 miles for my dog to take a piss.


Ask Kurt Russell, here's what's down in the South Pole ...

102732   Ceffer   2019 May 15, 6:28pm  

This couldn't be Florida. Florida women are known for removing their sanitary pads with a crowbar.
102733   joshuatrio   2019 May 16, 2:46am  

Is he even voting age? Love the camo and maga hat..
102734   HeadSet   2019 May 16, 6:43am  

First of all, it was not the "red neck" vote that got Trump elected. The cartoon "red neck vote" concept is just the left wing's way to disparage people who voted for Trump. Hence the appeal of someone creating the phony "red neck" to spout left wing talking points such as the "Make America White Again" parody of MAGA and "afraid of losing power" and "afraid of becoming minorities."

Next time you want to imitate a rural white, try using the correct style of camos, use a US Flag instead of a State flag, and do not put the hat on backwards. The maker of this video likely thought the Mississippi state flag would add to the "red neck" effect since it contains a Confederate battle flag. Wrong accent for Mississippi.
102735   BayArea   2019 May 16, 6:45am  

Fake news
102736   Tenpoundbass   2019 May 16, 6:50am  

That was from last year.

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