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BayArea says

It’s just creepy isn’t it?

On many occasions I’ll be discussing a topic, and over the next few days get bombarded with ads for that topic.

What did you expect? After all, you hooked up an ear that is on the Internet 24/7. May want to think twice about hooking up cameras to protect from burglars.

I have no idea why anyone would voluntarily put an Alexa in their home. Might as well install a spy cam in your bedroom with a hard link to the internet.

Jazz really why are you spreading misinformation? Do you honestly believe that in 2020 the KKK are a REAL Threat?

A fucking Senator can't even eat in peace in a fucking public Restaurant without being harassed and chased off. And the Police will just sit there and watch and not do a damn thing about it. NOW If there really were KKK(Of course there are KKK, but I mean if they were Trump supporters like you are fantasizing about) wouldn't the Soros ANTIFA Army harangue them and make their life difficult? I mean if your chart there has actual counts of groups, then they must know where they are. Why hasn't Open Borders Society sent the Antifa there to fuck their shit up. Why hasn't a zealot Liberal Congress critter called them to Congress to testify? There are so many fucking what IF's I could do this for hours.

One thing for sure, the Antifa are hell bent on suppressing Trump supporters and give three shits about the KKK real, invented or otherwise? Where is the KKK Doxing, and violent threats against them?

Either give a real honest answer to these questions, or I'm going to have to write you off to the realm of HeyYou, and not take one thing you say seriously.

Tenpoundbass says

Jazz really why are you spreading misinformation? Do you honestly believe that in 2020 the KKK are a REAL Threat?

Desperation. What will the Left's platform be if there's truly little to no racism from White people?

Some people fantasize about the KKK returning so they can be victims and have a legit reason to cry.

www.youtube.com/embed/7nPy-wqipCc

@Patrick -
ad bots here!

They yell 'lawsuit money, lawsuit money' to get the attention of their minority 'victims', who are customarily too engaged beating on and shooting each other.

WookieMan says

jazz_music says

Nationwide, there are still an estimated 3,000 Klan members and unaffiliated people who "identify with Klan ideology," according to the ADL. Membership, though, remains spread across dozens of groups. The largest Klans reportedly don't have more than 50 to 100 active members, and most have fewer than 25.

320+ million people. 320+ million people. 320+ million people. Fucking 3,000 of them are a concern? You'd literally have an easier time finding a legit needle in a haystack versus a public encounter with a KKK member. Explain why this is a problem? And then why this isn't a problem in your world? https://heyjackass.com

3,000 poor white trash people "talking" about "niggers" and you've got a city where they just shoot each other all the time? I'm sure the klan is to blame for this problem, right? Your priorities and faux outrage are so misdirected it's no...

Crickets.... Just start a new thread I guess?

d6rB says

@Patrick -
ad bots here!

Lol, yup. These SOB's spring up from time to time. Just like our bitcoin bot with a human "watcher" so to speak.

No Pick up trucks? Not very authentic looking to me. That one guy has baggy pants and his hat is on sideways, and three of them in the back have their faces exposed.

Is this from the movie set Blackkk? I bet they got years of hoax footage from that production.

jazz_music says

Jobs are scarce.

Wrong. Jobs are plentiful. Everyone has a job if they want one and can actually do productive work. There are help wanted signs everywhere, more than I’ve seen before ever!
Sinecures are what are hard to find. If you want a “job” that pays you to do nothing, you do need to be pretty well connected. Most of those are doing silly stupid shit like “diversity officer.”

Upton Sinclair said it best when he wrote “it’s impossible to convince a man of a truth when his job requires that he remain ignorant of it.”
You’ve been given enough opportunities to learn the truth. I can now deduce that you are working for the Left in some specious capacity.

jazz_music says

don’t look at what’s happening in Austria and say it couldn’t happen here; it already is.

I hope you’re right.

Well how come the Antifa don't stop them, and Congress doesn't haul them in for a hearing?

jazz_music says

Radical white-supremacist terrorists have already carried out and will inevitably continue to attempt mass murders of Jews, Muslims, Latinos, immigrants, and other “undesirables,” both here and in other countries.

Muslims most certainly win in body count by a huge margin. Why does no one in collective Left (or very, very few - with exception of may be Bill Maher) say much about that?

Old article. The same author posted one a couple weeks ago that’s slightly more relevant.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/mind-in-the-machine/201906/why-is-trump-so-popular

In the older article you posted, the author makes many many MANY assumptions and claims that are provably false. His first points are fair, if presented in a very biased way, but slide down into absolute ridiculous lies toward the end of his silly list.

The second article he purports to analyze Trump’s analytical ability and contrast that with his intuition. After doing some extremely sketchy pop psychology “science” using media clips (yah I know, it’s what gives psychologists a bad name), he asserts that the Donald is practically an imbecile when it comes to analytics. Then he asserts that his intuition is high but doesn’t say how he knows this. Then he denigrates the value of intuition as unscientific and in enlightened.

Robert Heinlen wrote that “Intuition is the result of the most sophisticated sort of thinking.” It’s that “gut” feeling we get when we can’t explain how we know something but we just do. It’s a survival mechanism that pairs our subconscious mind with our conscious mind to establish a visceral certainty that must be acted upon.

As human beings in a chaotic and unpredictable world, we don’t usually get much data about each decision we have to make, leaving us to make a best guess about many choices. The subconscious mind which controls our autonomic functions (like digestion, heart rate, muscle memory, etc) is very powerful and is always taking note of sensory input. The conscious mind might be engaged fully in watching a show or considering a solution to a problem or typing out a response on the internet, but the subconscious mind is monitoring the situation. When it comes to a conclusion based on a dozen small clues that our conscious mind didn’t notice, it provides that certainty to us in the form of an autonomic response. If you believe something in your heart, you have to act on it. And your subconscious mind is your “heart.” If it believes that there is an intruder in your back yard, it’s going to act on that belief. Your heart rate will spike, your muscles will tense, digestion gets put on pause, and adrenaline courses your veins.
That’s intuition.
But there are subtler forms where the new belief doesn’t require a flight or fight response. Maybe you just know that grandma’s health is failing fast and she won’t last the night. Maybe you just know that your wife is cheating on you even though you haven’t actually caught her. Maybe you just know that letting Transgenders compete as “women” in the Olympics is a fucking terrible idea that will ruin the event.

Logic and reason can be applied to justify any sort of position. We can lie to ourselves and each other in creative ways, proving that up is down and black is white.
But you can’t lie to your heart. That’s why intuition is more valuable than logic when it comes to finding Truth.
If the Donald relies heavily on intuition, it would explain why he so often gets right to the heart of any matter in record time.

jazz_music says

I get pissed at myself for bothering to answer you.

Can you answer me?

WookieMan says

WookieMan says

jazz_music says

Nationwide, there are still an estimated 3,000 Klan members and unaffiliated people who "identify with Klan ideology," according to the ADL. Membership, though, remains spread across dozens of groups. The largest Klans reportedly don't have more than 50 to 100 active members, and most have fewer than 25.

320+ million people. 320+ million people. 320+ million people. Fucking 3,000 of them are a concern? You'd literally have an easier time finding a legit needle in a haystack versus a public encounter with a KKK member. Explain why this is a problem? And then why this isn't a problem in your world? https://heyjackass.com

3,000 poor white trash people "talking" about "niggers" and you've got a city where they just shoot each other all the time? I'm sure the klan is to blame...

jazz_music says

I don't need to comment on EVERY subject.

That is true - but the lesson I have learned is that most important subjects are more worth discussing. In this case body count is probably good approximation for importance.
Also, I have observed that while majority (not all) of the collective Right distance themselves from KKK etc, very few in collective left distance themselves from Islamic terror and their breeders, Antifa, etc.

jazz_music says

Neighborhoods are getting canvassed with KKK fliers such as pictured in plastic baggies along with candy.

You fully understand that it's people trolling their neighborhoods to get people up in arms just like you are, right? Active and open racism is basically a thing of the past. It will never go away completely, that's impossible. You've inflated the numbers to 20k now too. Who cares? That's statistically an anomaly for a country with the population of the US. You're getting upset over something that is a fraction of a fraction. We need to stop that. Blacks specifically harm each other at an alarming rate and you're worried about some fucking hillbilly's "acting tough" about skin color.

TDS has been hitting Jazz hard lately, was it seing all the American flags for July 4th everywhere?

jazz_music says

WookieMan says

You fully understand that it's people trolling their neighborhoods

You make no sense

you make no sense jazz. stop reading crazy stuff on left wing sites.

Democrats getting really desperate here.

He means it’s like a fake hate crime, like Smollett did. Leftists with an agenda to promote racial discord distribute KKK flyers and get people thinking that old dinosaurs like the KKK are alive and well and a clear and present danger to YOUR community! It’s a pathetic way to create a problem for them to “fight” and thus seem important and useful.
Sort of like your relentless posts today.

jazz_music says

WookieMan says

You fully understand that it's people trolling their neighborhoods

You make no sense

I make perfect sense. It's probably teenage boys trolling their neighbors looking to stir the shit. Not saying it's right, but it's 99% what is most likely happening.

jazz_music says

WookieMan says

Active and open racism is basically a thing of the past.

Not a shred of truth to that statement.

Why? Good argument.

jazz_music says

WookieMan says

You're getting upset over something that is a fraction of a fraction.

I upset you

I don't get upset. I don't care. I'm not racist and don't know of anyone that is actively racist and trying to suppress someone based on their skin color. I know a lot of people. You've been fed BS and you're devouring it. Stop.

Booger says

Democrats getting really desperate here.

It really is pathetic. The fucking KKK is a thing again? For real? Lily white liberals doing their best to keep African Americans afraid on the plantation.

There are more illegals breaking into our country in any given week than total KKK members in our country.

There are 10X more MS-13, Russian and Chinese gang members in this country alone than KKK members.

socal2 says

It really is pathetic. The fucking KKK is a thing again? For real? Lily white liberals doing their best to keep African Americans afraid on the plantation.

It's sad. After my Belize thread I did some searching on crime stats. We have cities that have higher crime rates than some of the shittiest 3rd world countries. And we're worried about a club that statistically is insignificant?

Trump won the election, for christ sake get over it. How about we fix ACTUAL problems in our country?

jazz_music says

Trump was a triumph of identity politics.

I’ll give you that, but not in the way you mean. Identity politics pushed many moderate Americans away from the race baiting politics of the Democrats. The system was so corrupt and entrenched and relentless that it had to be destroyed. So we voted for someone who would tear down the paper tigers of the Left and take power back from grasping Leftists. Electing Trump was a giant “Fuck You” to Leftists and wokesters everywhere. Suck on that orange truth!

jazz_music says

So don’t look at what’s happening in Austria and say it couldn’t happen here; it already is.

You been to Austria recently? I've got family over there. This article is the definition of sensationalist journalism. Pure BS.

jazz_music says

Trump was a triumph of identity politics.

By Trump you mean CNN

jazz_music says

and WILDLY encouraged by Trump

When? Cite just one legitimate source. I don't like the guy or his personality necessarily, but I've yet to hear him say "sign up for the kkk." You know this is the truth too.

WookieMan says

jazz_music says

and WILDLY encouraged by Trump

When? Cite just one legitimate source. I don't like the guy or his personality necessarily, but I've yet to hear him say "sign up for the kkk." You know this is the truth too.

Here’s when he runs away and hides because he hasn’t got anything but WILD conjecture.
It’s his pattern.

socal2 says

There are 10X more MS-13, Russian and Chinese gang members in this country alone than KKK members.

Your number is wrong. It is 466 times more...
Approximately 1.4 million people were part of gangs as of 2011, and more than 33,000 gangs were active in the United States.
And 3000 in KKK.
Aryan Brotherhood is 15K, still 5x KKK...

Quigley says

Here’s when he runs away and hides because he hasn’t got anything but WILD conjecture.
It’s his pattern.

I actually used to not mind his posts too much. I'm open to other opinions all day and will read his stuff. They've been getting off the charts though into not logical stuff. The kkk is as dead as most people's childhood dog. Blacks kill each other with alarming frequency and he's worried about an essentially non-existent club? That's what scares me. Let's fix actual problems.

jazz_music says

ANTIFA is resisting the corporate capture of our government but all you hear about them is that someone got hurt at a demonstration.

They try to resist corporate takeover, but they are idiots who do it in a counterproductive, violent way. If I'd be a conspiracy theorist, I'd say that the best way how to get left-wing ideas discredited is by Antifa-type behavior...the correct way would perhaps be to devolve power to states, cities, and communities, and to let megacorporations go broke as opposed to bailing them out (hello, Bush and Obama), and to make corporate debt more expensive so that zombie corporations would disappear...hitting someone in face because of an ideological disagreement will have the opposite effect of positive.

jazz_music says

Muslims are a closed subject: either you believe they exist to take over the world or you believe they are like everybody else.

There is another possibility: Muslims are mostly good people whose minds have been poisoned by a violent, early Middle ages-type ideology. Perhaps they should be informed that worshiping a book which encourages murder of non-believers is not a good idea in 21st century.

d6rB says

and more than 33,000 gangs were active in the United State

Lol. Actual gangs (not individuals) outnumber the individual members of the KKK. MUH! KKK! The thousands of annual deaths due to gang violence are just fine as long as they vote for your team, right Jazz?

jazz_music says

WookieMan says

Blacks kill each other with alarming frequency

Youre looking at poverty statistics with a racial agenda.

Plenty of poor communities worldwide who aren’t killing each other left and right. Black communities would be considered quite well off by third world standards.

It’s not race and it’s not poverty.
It’s culture.
I am not worried about a poor Japanese man mugging me in the alley. Why? Culture.
I’m also not a bit concerned that the dad of my daughter’s best friend is going to assault me, even though he is black. Why? Culture.

jazz_music says

WookieMan says

Blacks kill each other with alarming frequency

Youre looking at poverty statistics with a racial agenda.

You're 100% wrong. I have ZERO racial agenda. When was the last time you helped a black person? Did anything for them? Take a $300 bath on rent payments to try and help them out? I work in some of the poorest neighborhoods in Chicago. I understand the situation more than you can understand. Your articles/links are about as good as toilet paper on this subject.

You assume you know someone, but I have a feeling you aren't doing shit for the black community. You're just running around acting like there's a problem where none exists. How about we fix and help out what is a cultural problem instead of just blaming white people for shit that happened a century ago.

RC2006 says

TDS has been hitting Jazz hard lately, was it seing all the American flags for July 4th everywhere?

American flags tend to trigger leftists pretty hard these days.

Quigley says

It’s not race and it’s not poverty.
It’s culture.

Lol, commenting at the same time. I don't think Jazz has experienced it or if he has he's biased and believes that it's "other people" that made it that way so to speak. Culture, culture, culture. No other study or "journalist" needs to comment on the matter. Most journalist are too pussy to even go into these neighborhoods where the problems exist, so don't believe shit written on the black community whatsoever. Fuck, kkk member are probably too pussy to go into the hood. But hey, it's a problem.