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OccasionalCortex says

NuttBoxer says

Except that I think you're all fucked. But be honest, show me how Trump has been any different than Obama, fundamentally different. Defense spending? Troops in Middle East? Accountability for evil banks? Illegals?

Uummmmm...what alternate reality have you been living in?

You have to be specific if you want to change a person's mind. Here's an example of something that MIGHT be new with Trump and the banking system:

https://www.zerohedge.com/article/rico-suit-filed-against-hsbc-and-jpmorgan-silver-market-manipulation

JP Morgan is up on RICO charges for precious metals manipulation. If it's just another fine and nobody goes to jail, it's more of the same. They've been caught doing very illegal shit for a long time. I'm surprised anybody is stupid enough to do business with them, but JP Morgan is essentially the US government too.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ship-seized-in-1-3-billion-cocaine-bust-is-owned-by-jp-morgan-chase/

Heard about any fallout about that yet? I haven't. I don't think most Americans can accept what is actually going on. I keep telling people to think of the government as a mafia, and then everything they do makes perfect sense because the government isn't like a mafia, it is a mafia.

Tim Aurora says

Trump could not even make it to ticket. In 2016 , he only got elected due to Russia.

www.youtube.com/embed/UXpRswM-tzc

Democrats, stop whining. It's impossible to rig a national election. As Obama said, claiming that is unprecedented. Every Expert agrees.

Tim Aurora says

richwicks says

Obama was a 1st term JUNIOR senator in 2004, and catapulted to the presidency because absolute garbage were running, and he was an unknown, who turned out to be absolute garbage.

Trump could not even make it to ticket. In 2016 , he only got elected due to Russia.

Haha, I wonder if you actually believe this?

If you do, I pity you. The propaganda isn't so sophisticated you should be believing this.

* "It's impossible to Rig a National Election - Trump, Stop Whinging" became "The National Election was rigged with a few thousand dollars from Russia"

* "C'mon Faithless Electors! Betray the State-by-State Majority Vote" evolved into "The Electoral College Sucks, we need Popular Vote!"

NoCoupForYou says

The National Election was rigged with a few thousand dollars from Russia

That's the one that really gets me. People ACTUALLY believe that Russia "hacked" the election for around $100,000. Out of a campaign where Clinton spent 4 billion dollars, and Trump spent 2 billion.

People believe this. There's a point where you just have to conclude people are stupid, insane, or both.

OccasionalCortex says

richwicks says

Nepotism can be corruption

True. But it isn't in this case. Hunter Biden's on the other hand: We have Joe caught on video BRAGGING that is exactly what he did.

I think you misunderstand me, I'm talking about Hunter Biden. That is blatant corruption.

Hypothetically, supposing the president learns that one of the presidential candidate is corrupted and accepting bribes from an other country, what should he do to prosecute the candidate without apparent conflict of interest?

TDS has no cure.

Heraclitusstudent says

Hypothetically, supposing the president learns that one of the presidential candidate is corrupted and accepting bribes from an other country, what should he do to prosecute the candidate without apparent conflict of interest?

Who cares if there's a conflict of interest? Idiots do, and also corrupt politicians.

Tim Aurora says

No, but they are democratically elected house

The Senate is democratically elected also, no? And the President is elected based on state-by-state majority votes, no?

richwicks says

Didn't you realize that the United States government lies?

Yes it lies.

But it is also bumbling and stupid. There is no way in freaking hell they could pull something like that off and not have one single leak in nearly 20 years. Let alone leave behind a trace of reasonable evidence. There would be dozens of various US government departments involved to cover it up. How do you keep them all quiet?

There is more than enough to criticize about US foreign policy and political/corporation corruption right out in the open - I don't see why people have to go full on 9/11 truther and infowars crazy.

Heraclitusstudent says

Hypothetically, supposing the president learns that one of the presidential candidate is corrupted and accepting bribes from an other country, what should he do to prosecute the candidate without apparent conflict of interest?

As long as he does so openly using the Criminal Justice System.

And doesn't use leaked information based on oppo research as an excuse to spy on political opponents using the Patriot Act.

What if the corruption happens in an other country? The FBI should investigate it?
Clearly he shouldn't be personally involved in it. No personal lawyer or other private operation. No personal call to Ukraine's president. This was stupid in the best case.

Just 5 more years of TDS.

Heraclitusstudent says

What if the corruption happens in an other country? The FBI should investigate it?
Clearly he shouldn't be personally involved in it. No personal lawyer or other private operation. No personal call to Ukraine's president. This was stupid in the best case.

If it involves an American, it's literally the business of the Executive, the Chief Law Enforcement Officer of the land.

Keep in mind it's illegal for Americans to hunt species that are endangered under US law, even if it's allowed with a permit in other countries. People can and have been prosecuted by the Feds for the act of hunting/fishing endangered species outside the US and species that are no indigenous to North America. It's also illegal for Americans to engage in prostitution, bribery, etc. abroad.

Have some sympathy for poor Hunter. Cocaine and hookers are expensive, and he might have to spend lot of time listening to senile ole Joe blather on until he croaks.

socal2 says

richwicks says

Didn't you realize that the United States government lies?

Yes it lies.

But it is also bumbling and stupid. There is no way in freaking hell they could pull something like that off and not have one single leak in nearly 20 years.

Are you kidding? It lied us into the Iraq War. It JUST attempted a 2 1/2 year coup. Where are the leaks? We can see a lot of the culprits though.

Have you considered Mossad might have done most of the setup? They're a bunch of crazy fanatics and they have no problem performing false flags. Look at what they did to the USS Liberty.

Let alone leave behind a trace of reasonable evidence.

There WAS evidence. Molten steel for months, reports of anomalies in the air - the media simply won't report on it.

There would be dozens of various US government departments involved to cover it up. How do you keep them all quiet?

Many of them are BRUTALLY incompetent and lazy. Let me point something out to you, and you look this up. Afghanistan produced 5% of the world's supply in 2001 and now produces over 80% today - all under US military occupation. How come nobody is screaming about this? Do you think this was accidental? You just don't appreciate how slothful, and corrupt the US government is. I do. You must know about the Chinese Opium Wars, right? Why do you think the government has changed?

There's something happening right now, do you think it's a coincidence that the US has an opioid epidemic? I had family on the other side of the Iron Curtain - you simply don't have any understanding of how utterly corrupt a government can and will become before people take notice and how they can do it in secret. Everybody gets paid quite well to keep their mouth shut, and who would believe a conspiracy theorist anyhow? Just another nutcase, lost his mind..

There is more than enough to criticize about US foreign policy and political/corporation corruption right out in the open - I don't see why people have to go full on 9/11 truther and infowars crazy.

I need to be absolutely clear here. I'm not saying 9/11 was definitely an inside job. I'm saying the only finite element simulation that's been able to duplicate the collapse of WTC7 is controlled demolition. That's the ONLY thing that has duplicated it. Could engineers and scientists be missing something? Sure - of course.

Having said that, I know NIST didn't do their job. The page I gave you will take you to THEIR simulation, the small portion they released. Nobody has been able to duplicate the collapse of WTC7 as it was observed except through severing all support columns nearly simultaneously, and if you look at the simulation and compare it against the observed collapse, they are damn damn close.

Incredulity isn't a defense. Dave Column said something I think is very true, he said:

I am a "conspiracy theorist". I believe men and women of wealth and power conspire. If you don't think so, then you are what is called "an idiot". If you believe stuff but fear the label, you are what is called "a coward".

Well, I'm not a coward, and I'm not an idiot - but I also don't jump to conclusions. You can't know precisely what goes on or has happened, however, you can know what almost certainly didn't happen with very high confidence. I have very high confidence there was a LOT of assistance within our own government to do 9/11. Remember when one of the hijacker's passports was found a few blocks from the towers in pristine condition? How unbelievable is that?

Our rulers think everybody is a moron, they mock you with this bullshit. I'm simply encouraging others to be less trusting of this criminal gang and that's what it is.

Why do you think there has been a 2 1/2 year effort to remove Trump? Why do you think people are trying to prevent Trump from investigating Biden's corruption? Why do you think Hillary Clinton wasn't prosecuted, even though she's clearly guilty of Title 18 violations by simply having classified material on a personal server? Why do you think there were ZERO consequences for lying us into the Iraq War? Why do you think there is censorship on Google, Facebook and Twitter?

I can talk at length, to tell you what I think is going on if you like. I know why the Syrian war likely happened, for example, I have plenty of evidence to back it up, I'm certain I can convince you. There's plenty of whistle blowers too, but they end up like Julian Assange and Bradley (or Chelsea - who cares?) Manning. They are denounced as "nuts" as well.

You know what you do to hide evil? You ACT stupid. Our government is filled with incompetents, and it's also filled with complete sociopaths. Sociopaths don't have to be stupid and some of them are pretty smart. Jeff Zuckerberg is a sociopath, but by no means a brilliant one, and if you think he's just selling information to advertisers, and not the government, you're gullible.

OccasionalCortex says

Bitch of it is: It is slamming everyone, not just UBI recipients.

Wait a sec: I thought "U" in "UBI" was for "Universal". As in "everybody gets it, no matter what". Without it, it's just BI. As in "welfare by another name".

Wow, that's some serious rent increase % for 1 yr.

Bubut they told me UBI would free people up so that they could instead pursue creative endeavors instead of needing to focus on lame wastes of time, such as work. Is stockton out-innovating everyone yet?

Iranian_Oil_Burse says

Also this:

Vermont- pioneer in unrestricted carry? How the fuck they vote for Sanders?

OccasionalCortex says

Or, as I said previously: Is it just me?

No, it's not just you...There are an unlimited amount of TOTAL idiots.....the funny thing is, imagine if their wetdream came true and trump and pence were eliminated and pelosi was president...What changes do they expect would happen with pelosi at the helm? How would their life improve? would a couple of more wars in foreign countries improve their lives. Would more welfare improve the lives of the working stiff or the medium wealthy? Would opening the border improve their lives?

FortWayneIndiana says

Just 5 more years of TDS.

And then will comes years of PMS (Pence Moaning Syndrome).

Now that is cool..

that is a pretty cool photo

Is this fake news?

The white on black AND black on white plots are essentially overlaid. That’s a complete lie. Black on white violence is many multiples higher as has been posted many times on this forum.

Tim Aurora says

Trump could not even make it to ticket. In 2016 , he only got elected due to Russia.

One of the symptoms of TDS is delusion and refusal to accept reality.

Tim Aurora says

6rdB says

And, while this might be unpopular on Patnet, there are rather convincing studies linking decrease in violent crime to access to abortions.

Yep. Read the Freakonomics
http://freakonomics.com/podcast/abortion/

I’m pretty convinced that this is why liberals push so hard for abortion access. They really don’t want black babies.
Same reason they push so hard for illegal immigration: poor Latina compete for space with poor blacks and push them out of the urban areas. Latins also come with built-in racism against blacks, which leads to hostility and further pushing of black populations to the margins, and best of all, the Latinos mostly vote Democrat. At least for the first generation or so.
Democrats use them as a cat’s paw to get rid of pesky high crime blacks.
If the blacks knew, would they still support Democrats? Idk, maybe as long as they still thought that Republicans would take away their food stamps...

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BayArea says

Is this fake news?

You're probably just not taking into account what "rate per 1000 means."

marcus says

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BayArea says

Is this fake news?

You're probably just not taking into account what "rate per 1000 means."

I’m very much taking it into account.

Data shows that black on white violent crime is 5x higher than white on black violent crime. White population is also 5x higher than black. That doesn’t support the overlaid plot above.

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says

And, somehow, Manaford refused compensation and suddenly volunteered to run the Trump campaign after 10 years in the Ukraine because Trump was such an inspiration and icon of the values he holds dear? Everyone is supposed to believe that?

If the conspiracy theories like this are somehow true, which they are not, and Russians are now running our country. Well they are doing a better job than the Democrats! Go Putin! LOL!

Those devious Russian bastards! Secretly taking power then using it to create a strong US economy by lowering taxes, develop US energy independence, strengthen US manufacturing by standing up to China, not starting any new wars.. It's diabolical!

https://m.theepochtimes.com/ukraine-prosecutor-reviewing-case-of-biden-linked-company-burisma_3106292.html

Wait, so printing more money DOESN'T solve all our problems!?!?

Quigley says

I’m pretty convinced that this is why liberals push so hard for abortion access

Pretty sure? It was the stated purpose of the founder of planned parenthood.

I thought UBI was an extortion bribe to the criminal element to keep them from enhanced mayhem.

I'm glad everybody in Stockton has cigarette money now.

They're doing it all wrong... $500/month just isn't high enough! /sarc

Actually, they are doing it all wrong. It should be $1000/month and no other welfare. Once all the section-8 housing support is cancelled, each section-8 dweller will have to double-up with another section-8 dweller to stretch the UBI budget. Viola! There is plenty of open housing.

Out of curiosity, what the heck do people actually do in Stockton?

SunnyvaleCA says

It should be $1000/month and no other welfare

Always more, never enough

SunnyvaleCA says

Out of curiosity, what the heck do people actually do in Stockton?

For example:

"The Port of Stockton is a major inland deepwater port in Stockton, California located on the Stockton Channel and San Joaquin River before it joins the Sacramento River to empty into Suisun Bay, eighty miles inland. The port sits on about 4,200 acres (17 km2), and occupies an island in the Sacramento–San Joaquin River Delta, and a portion of a neighborhood known as Boggs Tract. It is governed by a commission appointed by the City of Stockton and San Joaquin County. In 2012 it supported 4,500 jobs and made about $4.9 million in local tax funds"

Fact Check: Media Matters is Pants on Fire.



https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2019/09/21/joe-biden-never-talked-ukraine-son-trump-needs-investigated/2401830001/

I'm sure while they were golfing, Joe and Hunter and Devon Archer of Burisma never discussed business.

I’ve known many.
They think Democrats will shower them with equality and gold from pockets of white people. That’s what they want, and Dems will give them this.

komputodo says

OccasionalCortex says

Or, as I said previously: Is it just me?

No, it's not just you...There are an unlimited amount of TOTAL idiots.....the funny thing is, imagine if their wetdream came true and trump and pence were eliminated and pelosi was president...What changes do they expect would happen with pelosi at the helm? How would their life improve? would a couple of more wars in foreign countries improve their lives. Would more welfare improve the lives of the working stiff or the medium wealthy? Would opening the border improve their lives?