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So anything pro-trump is true? Does that mean anything anti-biden is false?

Rb6d says

wut

Fallopia is trolling by posting this.

Is he an independent troll, or paid?

richwicks says

When did the navy get judicial authority? This is a total BS story.

Again, Fallopia is trolling by posting this.

His technique seems to be:

1. post something so outlandish from a disreputable but right-wing site that people object
2. attempt to generalize that to "see, this one right-wing site posted bullshit, therefore all right-wing sites are bullshit"

And yet the election was indeed stolen by ballot fraud. I think he's really trying to create FUD about that fraud.

How much do you get paid for this, @Fallopia ?

Patrick says

Rb6d says

wut

Fallopia is trolling by posting this.

Is he an independent troll, or paid?

Fellatio and fakerawnews are "Sidney Powell" of current cycle.
https://patrick.net/post/1338544/2021-03-22-was-sidney-powell-a-democrat-plant
https://patrick.net/post/1336710/2020-11-20-trump-lawyer-sound-unrealistic

Fallopia says

richwicks says

I swallowed it 20 years ago and was in a practical rage for 16 years because 1/2 my friends had "hope" that X would fix it!

I'm sorry to hear that. Do you take any responsibility for your 16 years of rage? I'm pretty sure it wasn't your friends' fault.

Responsibility?

That 16 years was my stupidity in not recognizing my "smart and ethical friends" didn't have any ethics, and weren't smart. They raged (as I did) when Bush lied us into the war in Iraq, but they still believe Obama was just a great president, and he had "a good reason" to bomb Syria, Libya, Pakistan, Somalia, and Yemen.

I can explain, to the morons, why Bush was a bad president, but deaf ears when I explain Obama was no different. It just disgusts me. It's kind of like finding out the priest you've always respected and liked is an atheist and has been talking bullshit for over a decade and all the money he's been collecting tax free for the last 15 years bought his new boat, and vacation home in the Bahamas.

We are a nation filled with people with no principles. I suppose we deserve what is coming to us.

Weak sause.

The guillotine is French, and I think if Macron keeps going, has a real shot at coming out of retirement. As Comey is from the US I'd guess we'll just shoot him when the time comes, probably with an AR-15.

Fallopia says

richwicks says

This is a total BS story.

But it's on a pro-Trump news website. Are you saying that people write and propagate fake pro-Trump news stories?

https://realrawnews.com/

Yes, of course.

I'm also saying the people that create fake bullshit news stories, are pretty fucking easy to spot. In addition to that, nearly everything on television is fake news stories, and has been for at least 20 years and it's easy to spot.

In 2000-2008 "the right" was blind to it, but from 2008 to 2016 "the right" wasn't blind to it, but "the left" was, but something special happened in 2016 - a good deal of "the right" realized 2000-2008 was bullshit propaganda that they fell for, but "the left", for some inexplicable reason, thought the bullshit that was being shitted down their throat was the truth, even though they were the FIRST to recognize blatant propaganda being masqueraded as "news".

I never would have guessed NEVER would have guessed that "the right" would have been the first group to

1) recognize that "news" media is complete brainwashing propaganda
2) recognize that the intelligence agencies are fucking liars
3) realize that judicial system is corrupt
and 4) recognize our voting system is total bullshit

Before "the left" did. I'm fucking astounded to be honest, even now. I used to think "the left" was smart. They have no independent thought at all. I know a person with an MIT degree that SWEARS that Russia "hacked our election" - but when I ask him "well, how did they do that exactly?" - he moves to another subject or ignores the question. He's a fucking MIT graduate.

I've lost a lot of faith in the people I thought were smart. They're smart, in a single area, of their expertise, and complete dildo moron idiots in others. Autistic geniuses, and their arrogance, prevents them from ever realizing they are wrong. I'm surrounded by retarded experts. This is what Silicon Valley is actually like.

When Newsome does get ousted, what's the protection situation like for ex-governor's? I'm guessing he'll have to hire his own. Wonder what the over/under is on him just getting randomly socked by strangers whenever he walks down the street?

Patrick says

His technique seems to be:

1. post something so outlandish from a disreputable but right-wing site that people object
2. attempt to generalize that to "see, this one right-wing site posted bullshit, therefore all right-wing sites are bullshit"

Shit, he could just post some clips from Fox News.

Does he think we seriously don't realize this?

Find that weapons of mass destruction program in Iraq yet?

Golly Gee Whiz, there's propaganda for the Republicans - who could have possibly guessed??

Patrick says

What are the actual crimes he should be charged with?

Yeah, not really the best one to get things started. I think he'll be left for the general purge.

Seriously though, I think Comey could indeed be found guilty of some offense that would merit the death penalty.

The FBI is that corrupt.

This is definitely in the realm of conspiracy theory, but I think this is a possible scenario. If Trump where to get back in office, a huge majority of people would suddenly be feeling a lot less revolutionary, thinking that would solve all their problems(forgetting that for four years nothing changed). A small minority would probably have a complete mental breakdown and enlarge our ever-growing homeless population. They have the means(fraudulent elections), to do it, and it might even get people to buy into the pandemic BS if Trump was the one pushing it. But they already have their puppet state leader, and they probably have a better chance staying the course for now. But if they get desperate, you never know...

Patrick says

Seriously though, I think Comey could indeed be found guilty of some offense that would merit the death penalty.

The FBI is that corrupt.

For sure. An obvious target would be FBI collusion with child pedophilia rings. They have a long history of witness intimidation regarding these types of cases, going all the way back to the Franklin Coverup.

richwicks says

I've lost a lot of faith in the people I thought were smart. They're smart, in a single area, of their expertise, and complete dildo moron idiots in others. Autistic geniuses, and their arrogance, prevents them from ever realizing they are wrong. I'm surrounded by retarded experts. This is what Silicon Valley is actually like.

Oh, those people are likely smart. But keep in mind that people are NOT logical creatures. When it comes to religion and politics, people choose not to use their smarts.

The conspiracy theory in this case is that the election was fair and not stolen as the evidence pointing toward massive fraud is overwhelming. Math just is and doesn't lie

Patrick says

richwicks says

When did the navy get judicial authority? This is a total BS story.

Again, Fallopia is trolling by posting this.

His technique seems to be:

1. post something so outlandish from a disreputable but right-wing site that people object
2. attempt to generalize that to "see, this one right-wing site posted bullshit, therefore all right-wing sites are bullshit"

And yet the election was indeed stolen by ballot fraud. I think he's really trying to create FUD about that fraud.

How much do you get paid for this, @Fallopia ?

Sure enough, Patrick has Fallopia nailed:

Fallopia says

Patrick says

His technique seems to be:

1. post something so outlandish from a disreputable but right-wing site that people object
2. attempt to generalize that to "see, this one right-wing site posted bullshit, therefore all right-wing sites are bullshit"

And yet the election was indeed stolen by ballot fraud.

The website and stories are obviously BS. Anyone with half a brain should instantly realize this. Yet look at the comments below some of the stories...they number into the thousands. Tons of people believe this bullshit. They will glom on to any conspiratorial nonsense.

Just like people believe the election was stolen because they can't accept reality.

Troll, troll, go away, bug some other blog today . . .

mell says

The conspiracy theory in this case is that the election was fair and not stolen as the evidence pointing toward massive fraud is overwhelming. Math just is and doesn't lie

Yup. No one wants to personally seek out the numbers and do the math though. They just read the narrative. Every American should do their research regardless of the outcome. Look at vote totals of specific counties. Votes don't match up in certain areas and it's completely obvious. Especially for those active in their voting precinct. As an elected official, our numbers looked logical based on knowing hundreds well enough in my community to have an anecdotal idea of how the vote should go. Much better than polling for sure.

And remember, there are some things the common person cannot even get their hands on. Ballots for example. That takes a shit ton of time and money to get to. In some cases even big orgs can't get their hands on them. Saying voter fraud is a conspiracy is like saying speeding in your car is a conspiracy. Of course everyone just follows the rules....... That's a naive look on life.

Patrick says

How much do you get paid for this, @Fallopia ?

He can use his earnings to shop here:

Fallopia says

As a lifelong Conservative who voted for Trump in 2016 and Biden in 2020, I hope this day of reckoning comes sooner rather than later.

What a load of bullshit!

Simple, because it is assumed that those irregularities won't sway the vote, similar for CA, hence the swing-states which were close are being examined. A full audit of all states would likely uncover more fraud in favor or xiden, even in traditional red states, but it didn't matter to sway the vote. It's clear Trump won at this point, math doesn't lie.

Fallopia says

WookieMan says

Look at vote totals of specific counties. Votes don't match up in certain areas and it's completely obvious.

We have over 330,000,000 people in the US. In an election that large, there will always be "irregularities".

There are just as many "irregularities" in states that Trump won. Why aren't you concerned about that? Why aren't you claiming that Trump cheated in those states?

WHERE'S THE OUTRAGE :)

Simple, because those weren't swing states, but most likely they would show similar fraud in favor of xiden. So this is not a valid argument

Fallopia says

Why isn't anyone demanding similar audits in states and counties that Trump won? There are similar "irregularities" that will be found :)

Agreed!

One person, one vote. Make them pre register and show ID on the day of election. If you are too sick or too scared to go to the poll, too bad.

Fallopia says

Biden in 2020

Why the fuck would you do that?

Why would anyone vote for a demented puppet?

Biden lost because he had the "biggest election fraud" in history and cheated. It's becoming more and more obvious as the audits continue.

Onvacation says

One person, one vote.

And there is no reason not to have results by midnight on election day.

C'mon man.

Fallopia says

stereotomy says

Troll, troll, go away

Why do you think that having a dissenting opinion makes me a troll? I'm polite and present reasoned arguments.

No you don't. Your post is gay.

Patrick says

How much do you get paid for this, @Fallopia ?

50 Cent Army

Fallopia says

mell says

A full audit of all states would likely uncover more fraud in favor or xiden, even in traditional red states, but it didn't matter to sway the vote.

Even more reason to conduct such audits where Trump won. That is how you would build a case, rather than just looking at selected examples that appear biased to prove a predetermined point.

The truth is that Trump lost and his inability to accept this is dividing the Republican party and will hurt them in the midterms.

Nobody is against auditing all states, but the swing states are more important, and if you find enough evidence the case is there until other evidence comes to light that would prove it otherwise, similar to xiden having won until the audits were completed. As of now he most likely didn't win anymore. Auditing 50 states may take half or a full term, so there is practicality as well.

Onvacation says

Fallopia says

Why isn't anyone demanding similar audits in states and counties that Trump won? There are similar "irregularities" that will be found :)

Agreed!

One person, one vote. Make them pre register and show ID on the day of election. If you are too sick or too scared to go to th he poll, too bad.

ID would erase much of the fraud and forcing in person voting is totally doable. The system has been designed that you can basically walk to your polling place in urban areas. Rural areas, more likely are harder to get to, are more conservative and therefore would likely be a disadvantage to Republicans. Democrats should want this, amazingly they don't.

It's still not impossible to duplicate ballots though which is likely what happened with this election. I have a friend that just rewrote the entire JP Morgan investment site, at least the lead on it. I could literally fly to a foreign country and we could withdraw millions of dollars from prominent people in 10 seconds and live like kings. Except that's a crime and it involves money. The average person doesn't realize that votes are money and just trust the system. I don't think some people understand how much ONE individual can change things.

It literally could have been one Trump hater, code writer at Dominion to completely change the election. No other person involved. You'd be naive and frankly stupid not to question things. They check my lights when I get an oil change. I knew one light was out one time. They missed it. I called them on it. Apparently some people don't like accountability, are scared or losers. Pick your poison.

Fallopia says

and is even more unpopular now, outside of his shrinking base. Doubling down on a loser will simply lead to more losses.

Being censored has a funny way of making one unpopular. No one can hear or see you. But you seem to be okay with that. A former POTUS being censored puts you in a happy place. Cute. Our Country is doomed if this is popular thought.

Fallopia says

Onvacation says

Why the fuck would you do that?

Why would anyone vote for a demented puppet?

Addressed in the original post. Trump demonstrated such poor, irregular, and divisive leadership that the American people chose to elect an otherwise weak candidate, Joe Biden.

Trump was deeply unpopular towards the end of his term, and is even more unpopular now, outside of his shrinking base. Doubling down on a loser will simply lead to more losses.

This makes no sense - if you vote for who is mot popular maybe you want to vote for bono or mickey mouse next time, not for actual policies. It's not credible that somebody would switch to vote for communist-marxist policies because of perceived "popularity" or "divisiveness". Yeah Trump can be brash. And Xi is popular as well.

Trump won, and I’m not engaging in a “victim mentality”.
The notion that having a grasp on reality is a “mentality” is an attempt to change the subject, and I’m not buying it.

The only thing Biden did better than Trump was he really got out the dead people vote.

Those engaging in fantasy evidently believe that Trump was so unpopular that a total creep with dementia could be more popular. However, Trump had high popularity shown by polling.

Biden certainly isn’t popular today, everyone who buys gasoline is annoyed.

Fallopia says

Trump was deeply unpopular towards the end of his term, and is even more unpopular now, outside of his shrinking base. Doubling down on a loser will simply lead to more losses.

Then how did he, Trump, get 10 million more votes in 2020 than 2016? Not expecting a cogent answer.

No "conservative" would ever vote for Biden so your story sounds fishy.

Donald says

Arizona has voter ID yet that is the most audited state in the country right now. Why? I thought voter ID guarantees the election is legitimate. Republicans can't have it both ways.

So all of those mail in votes had their drivers license?

One person, one vote, one day. It's not that hard.

you can't have it both ways.

Donald says

Arizona has voter ID yet that is the most audited state in the country right now. Why? I thought voter ID guarantees the election is legitimate. Republicans can't have it both ways.

The iD is a precondition to check for fraud and successfully detect it, it doesn't make the election secure by magic but it equips you with the tools to detect it swiftly and accurately.

Donald says

Notice how no Trump supporters have even attempted to dispute the arguments in the original post about his weak leadership during Covid and the riots. They go straight to election fraud. Why? Because they can't disprove Trump's disastrous leadership.

What was he supposed to do? Look like a dictator and bring in the military. He did what he could at the Federal level as much as he could. The states and cities that had issues failed epically. There's a reason we have state government. Government 101 type stuff. sheesh.

Donald says

Notice how no Trump supporters have even attempted to dispute the arguments in the original post about his weak leadership during Covid and the riots. They go straight to election fraud. Why? Because they can't disprove Trump's disastrous leadership.

I didn't like that he gave into the fauxci flu bs fear porn and started promoting the experimental biological agents, but still light-years better than any other candidate. So I did have leadership concerns but in the other direction. He should have dismissed all the fear porn and banned all (they're unconstitutional) lockdowns and mask mandates from the get go.

I'd agree with mell too. Trump failed in that he gave a career political doctor most of the control for Covid. One that fucked up AIDS. Then Fauci flip flopped on everything and has recently been lying to Congressional committees. He will ultimately end up in jail in my opinion. Covid is unraveling so now there's the "Delta variant."

And this isn't conspiracy. This is what happened. Biden is mundane as fuck, but both Trump and Biden have/had utterly failed in not firing this clown. There's scientific evidence masks don't work. This whole thing has been botched and is still being botched. The vaccines are not totally effective and we have no evidence of long term outcomes for those vax'd.

I did pretty well under Trump. I'm now dealing with massive inflation on all fronts. Great. I know he doesn't do everything, but the optics so far with Biden are a failure out the gate. And just because I'll make more this year, doesn't mean that I net more. Inflation is a bitch.

Donald says

If the 2020 election was fraudulent, then how do we know the 2016 election was legitimate? How do we really know Trump won? Not a single state was audited.

In 2016 there were no irregularities to begin with, such as highest voter turnout for a vegetable, 3 am votes dump after telling everybody at 10 pm votes won't be counted until 7 am, massive mail in ballot (fraud) which didn't exist in 2016 since people couldn't just send in random ballots. Easy.

Fallopia says

Donald says

Notice how no Trump supporters have even attempted to dispute the arguments in the original post about his weak leadership during Covid and the riots. They go straight to election fraud. Why? Because they can't disprove Trump's disastrous leadership.

Trump's base like his leadership style. They like rancor and divisiveness. They think good leadership is "owning the libs".

Most Americans don't like this and turned away from Trump. Furthermore, Trump's base is a shrinking fraction of the classical Republican base, and most old-school Conservatives such as myself were horrified by his schismatic actions, fiscal recklessness, and utter lack of principle.

While most of this is touchy feely unimportant stuff I agree to a certain extent on the fiscal recklessness, but that's just what every one did before him and is now being done times 10 by xiden, so no reason to change the vote, unless you want 10 times the recklessness.

Fallopia says

Why not audit Tennessee and Alabama?

Go ahead, what's holding you back?