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mell says

The conspiracy theory in this case is that the election was fair and not stolen as the evidence pointing toward massive fraud is overwhelming. Math just is and doesn't lie

Yup. No one wants to personally seek out the numbers and do the math though. They just read the narrative. Every American should do their research regardless of the outcome. Look at vote totals of specific counties. Votes don't match up in certain areas and it's completely obvious. Especially for those active in their voting precinct. As an elected official, our numbers looked logical based on knowing hundreds well enough in my community to have an anecdotal idea of how the vote should go. Much better than polling for sure.

And remember, there are some things the common person cannot even get their hands on. Ballots for example. That takes a shit ton of time and money to get to. In some cases even big orgs can't get their hands on them. Saying voter fraud is a conspiracy is like saying speeding in your car is a conspiracy. Of course everyone just follows the rules....... That's a naive look on life.

Patrick says

How much do you get paid for this, @Fallopia ?

He can use his earnings to shop here:

Fallopia says

As a lifelong Conservative who voted for Trump in 2016 and Biden in 2020, I hope this day of reckoning comes sooner rather than later.

What a load of bullshit!

Simple, because it is assumed that those irregularities won't sway the vote, similar for CA, hence the swing-states which were close are being examined. A full audit of all states would likely uncover more fraud in favor or xiden, even in traditional red states, but it didn't matter to sway the vote. It's clear Trump won at this point, math doesn't lie.

Fallopia says

WookieMan says

Look at vote totals of specific counties. Votes don't match up in certain areas and it's completely obvious.

We have over 330,000,000 people in the US. In an election that large, there will always be "irregularities".

There are just as many "irregularities" in states that Trump won. Why aren't you concerned about that? Why aren't you claiming that Trump cheated in those states?

WHERE'S THE OUTRAGE :)

Simple, because those weren't swing states, but most likely they would show similar fraud in favor of xiden. So this is not a valid argument

Fallopia says

Why isn't anyone demanding similar audits in states and counties that Trump won? There are similar "irregularities" that will be found :)

Agreed!

One person, one vote. Make them pre register and show ID on the day of election. If you are too sick or too scared to go to the poll, too bad.

Fallopia says

Biden in 2020

Why the fuck would you do that?

Why would anyone vote for a demented puppet?

Biden lost because he had the "biggest election fraud" in history and cheated. It's becoming more and more obvious as the audits continue.

Onvacation says

One person, one vote.

And there is no reason not to have results by midnight on election day.

C'mon man.

Fallopia says

stereotomy says

Troll, troll, go away

Why do you think that having a dissenting opinion makes me a troll? I'm polite and present reasoned arguments.

No you don't. Your post is gay.

Patrick says

How much do you get paid for this, @Fallopia ?

50 Cent Army

Fallopia says

mell says

A full audit of all states would likely uncover more fraud in favor or xiden, even in traditional red states, but it didn't matter to sway the vote.

Even more reason to conduct such audits where Trump won. That is how you would build a case, rather than just looking at selected examples that appear biased to prove a predetermined point.

The truth is that Trump lost and his inability to accept this is dividing the Republican party and will hurt them in the midterms.

Nobody is against auditing all states, but the swing states are more important, and if you find enough evidence the case is there until other evidence comes to light that would prove it otherwise, similar to xiden having won until the audits were completed. As of now he most likely didn't win anymore. Auditing 50 states may take half or a full term, so there is practicality as well.

Onvacation says

Fallopia says

Why isn't anyone demanding similar audits in states and counties that Trump won? There are similar "irregularities" that will be found :)

Agreed!

One person, one vote. Make them pre register and show ID on the day of election. If you are too sick or too scared to go to th he poll, too bad.

ID would erase much of the fraud and forcing in person voting is totally doable. The system has been designed that you can basically walk to your polling place in urban areas. Rural areas, more likely are harder to get to, are more conservative and therefore would likely be a disadvantage to Republicans. Democrats should want this, amazingly they don't.

It's still not impossible to duplicate ballots though which is likely what happened with this election. I have a friend that just rewrote the entire JP Morgan investment site, at least the lead on it. I could literally fly to a foreign country and we could withdraw millions of dollars from prominent people in 10 seconds and live like kings. Except that's a crime and it involves money. The average person doesn't realize that votes are money and just trust the system. I don't think some people understand how much ONE individual can change things.

It literally could have been one Trump hater, code writer at Dominion to completely change the election. No other person involved. You'd be naive and frankly stupid not to question things. They check my lights when I get an oil change. I knew one light was out one time. They missed it. I called them on it. Apparently some people don't like accountability, are scared or losers. Pick your poison.

Fallopia says

and is even more unpopular now, outside of his shrinking base. Doubling down on a loser will simply lead to more losses.

Being censored has a funny way of making one unpopular. No one can hear or see you. But you seem to be okay with that. A former POTUS being censored puts you in a happy place. Cute. Our Country is doomed if this is popular thought.

Fallopia says

Onvacation says

Why the fuck would you do that?

Why would anyone vote for a demented puppet?

Addressed in the original post. Trump demonstrated such poor, irregular, and divisive leadership that the American people chose to elect an otherwise weak candidate, Joe Biden.

Trump was deeply unpopular towards the end of his term, and is even more unpopular now, outside of his shrinking base. Doubling down on a loser will simply lead to more losses.

This makes no sense - if you vote for who is mot popular maybe you want to vote for bono or mickey mouse next time, not for actual policies. It's not credible that somebody would switch to vote for communist-marxist policies because of perceived "popularity" or "divisiveness". Yeah Trump can be brash. And Xi is popular as well.

Trump won, and I’m not engaging in a “victim mentality”.
The notion that having a grasp on reality is a “mentality” is an attempt to change the subject, and I’m not buying it.

The only thing Biden did better than Trump was he really got out the dead people vote.

Those engaging in fantasy evidently believe that Trump was so unpopular that a total creep with dementia could be more popular. However, Trump had high popularity shown by polling.

Biden certainly isn’t popular today, everyone who buys gasoline is annoyed.

Fallopia says

Trump was deeply unpopular towards the end of his term, and is even more unpopular now, outside of his shrinking base. Doubling down on a loser will simply lead to more losses.

Then how did he, Trump, get 10 million more votes in 2020 than 2016? Not expecting a cogent answer.

No "conservative" would ever vote for Biden so your story sounds fishy.

Donald says

Arizona has voter ID yet that is the most audited state in the country right now. Why? I thought voter ID guarantees the election is legitimate. Republicans can't have it both ways.

So all of those mail in votes had their drivers license?

One person, one vote, one day. It's not that hard.

you can't have it both ways.

Donald says

Arizona has voter ID yet that is the most audited state in the country right now. Why? I thought voter ID guarantees the election is legitimate. Republicans can't have it both ways.

The iD is a precondition to check for fraud and successfully detect it, it doesn't make the election secure by magic but it equips you with the tools to detect it swiftly and accurately.

Donald says

Notice how no Trump supporters have even attempted to dispute the arguments in the original post about his weak leadership during Covid and the riots. They go straight to election fraud. Why? Because they can't disprove Trump's disastrous leadership.

What was he supposed to do? Look like a dictator and bring in the military. He did what he could at the Federal level as much as he could. The states and cities that had issues failed epically. There's a reason we have state government. Government 101 type stuff. sheesh.

Donald says

Notice how no Trump supporters have even attempted to dispute the arguments in the original post about his weak leadership during Covid and the riots. They go straight to election fraud. Why? Because they can't disprove Trump's disastrous leadership.

I didn't like that he gave into the fauxci flu bs fear porn and started promoting the experimental biological agents, but still light-years better than any other candidate. So I did have leadership concerns but in the other direction. He should have dismissed all the fear porn and banned all (they're unconstitutional) lockdowns and mask mandates from the get go.

I'd agree with mell too. Trump failed in that he gave a career political doctor most of the control for Covid. One that fucked up AIDS. Then Fauci flip flopped on everything and has recently been lying to Congressional committees. He will ultimately end up in jail in my opinion. Covid is unraveling so now there's the "Delta variant."

And this isn't conspiracy. This is what happened. Biden is mundane as fuck, but both Trump and Biden have/had utterly failed in not firing this clown. There's scientific evidence masks don't work. This whole thing has been botched and is still being botched. The vaccines are not totally effective and we have no evidence of long term outcomes for those vax'd.

I did pretty well under Trump. I'm now dealing with massive inflation on all fronts. Great. I know he doesn't do everything, but the optics so far with Biden are a failure out the gate. And just because I'll make more this year, doesn't mean that I net more. Inflation is a bitch.

Donald says

If the 2020 election was fraudulent, then how do we know the 2016 election was legitimate? How do we really know Trump won? Not a single state was audited.

In 2016 there were no irregularities to begin with, such as highest voter turnout for a vegetable, 3 am votes dump after telling everybody at 10 pm votes won't be counted until 7 am, massive mail in ballot (fraud) which didn't exist in 2016 since people couldn't just send in random ballots. Easy.

Fallopia says

Donald says

Notice how no Trump supporters have even attempted to dispute the arguments in the original post about his weak leadership during Covid and the riots. They go straight to election fraud. Why? Because they can't disprove Trump's disastrous leadership.

Trump's base like his leadership style. They like rancor and divisiveness. They think good leadership is "owning the libs".

Most Americans don't like this and turned away from Trump. Furthermore, Trump's base is a shrinking fraction of the classical Republican base, and most old-school Conservatives such as myself were horrified by his schismatic actions, fiscal recklessness, and utter lack of principle.

While most of this is touchy feely unimportant stuff I agree to a certain extent on the fiscal recklessness, but that's just what every one did before him and is now being done times 10 by xiden, so no reason to change the vote, unless you want 10 times the recklessness.

Fallopia says

Why not audit Tennessee and Alabama?

Go ahead, what's holding you back?

Pure MSM propaganda.

I was watching the election results between 2:00-3:00am. I watched as Biden surged ahead in 5 key states. Nearly every vote was counted for Biden. What are the statistical 'gambling odds' of this occurring in 1 battleground state, let alone 5? Probably similar to winning 1 million dollars in 5 different casinos on the same night. Or pulling 5 slot machine jackpots in a row. It's beyond obvious any such gambler has cheated.

Trump did a great job but I guess he’s supposed to walk on water.

Trump organized the vaccine development, among other things that were going on at the same time as the bullshit pandemic.

Firing Fauci would not have accomplished anything, he would have gained martyr status and still be on TV.

Ignoring him was a better strategy, which I think Trump did.

The vast voter fraud happened, it’s not imaginary. Biden lost.

Fallopia says

mell says

I didn't like that he gave into the fauxci flu bs fear porn

Trump himself was infected by COVID, and became so ill that he was airlifted by helicopter to the hospital. While hospitalized he received a level of care that no ordinary American could have received, including special access to experimental treatments including Regeneron's monoclonal antibody treatment, Remdesivir, and a course of dexamethasone in conjunction with supplemental oxygen. This heroic treatment regimen almost certainly saved his life, whereas an ordinary Joe such as myself would have died.

After this experience he continued to put politics ahead of a national health crisis. This did not go unnoticed by the American electorate.

Every president gets airlifted immediately at onset of symptoms for which regular joe schmoe would be sent home by their MDs and told to chill with a pill. Remdesivir does jack shit (failed drug), even regeneron's stuff is just mildly effective, dexamethasone is widely availabe to everyone. He didn't get great care. The real issue is that simple effective meds like HCQ, Zinc + ionophore, Vit. D and most importantly Ivermectin existed long ago but have been purposely discredited or banned by the despotic charlatans to make the public suffer. There was no health crisis to begin with until leftoids outlawed the only effective treatments. Trump should have pushed back hard on this. Nothing to do with his brief covid stint.

FuckCCP89 says

Go ahead, what's holding you back?

victim mentality

Michael Cooke says

Pure MSM propaganda.

I was watching the election results between 2:00-3:00am. I watched as Biden surged ahead in 5 key states. Nearly every vote was counted for Biden. What are the statistical 'gambling odds' of this occurring in 1 battleground state, let alone 5? Probably similar to winning 1 million dollars in 5 different casinos on the same night. Or pulling 5 slot machine jackpots in a row. It's beyond obvious any such gambler has cheated.

Yep, math just is. It doesn't lie. Everybody with basic knowledge of university grade statistics knows this, unfortunately not many do.

LOL Fallopia sounds like Joy Reid wishing things were like how she wishes shit would do.

Fallopia says

porkchopexpress says

No you don't. Your post is gay.

My post is "gay"?

Not sure what to do with that. Could you elaborate?

It means your posts suck dick and take it up the ass.

Fallopia says

most old-school Conservatives such as myself

Other than TDS, is there any reason you voted for Biden?

WookieMan says

Then Fauci flip flopped on everything and has recently been lying to Congressional committees. He will ultimately end up in jail in my opinion.

The day after Hillary?

Donald says

Well, Eisenhower sent in the military to de-segregate a high school and nobody thinks of him as a dictator today.

He shouldn't have. And yes it was a bad move. Simple things like taking away infrastructure funds for not raising the drinking age to 21 worked pretty effectively. All states still abide by it. Even though the Fed doesn't actually pull people over for drinking and driving.

Take away the states education funding and boom, segregation goes away. Military should have never been involved.

At the end of the day we need less government. If I don't like Indians or Asians, I should be allowed to stay with my like kind. Besides Europe, that's literally what the rest of the world is. Hell that's even the US. Every ethnicity has its own damn neighborhood. Slavery was bad, awful and disgusting. Hanging with people that look like you is pretty standard across the globe. I'll converse and be friendly with a black woman, but even if she has an attractive body/face I wouldn't have sex with her. It's a preference. I should be allowed to have that. At the pace we're going I'll be forced to have intercourse with her because I'm white.

porkchopexpress says

Fallopia says

porkchopexpress says

No you don't. Your post is gay.

My post is "gay"?

Not sure what to do with that. Could you elaborate?

It means your posts suck dick and take it up the ass.

Lol, pork chop, your comments here remind me of my neighbor and make me think you are him. You'll be his doppelgänger if you use AIDS as an adjective. Like "Joe Biden is AIDS"

Fallopia says

We have over 330,000,000 people in the US. In an election that large, there will always be "irregularities".

You mean cheating right? Because it is widely accepted, by just about everyone that a certain amount of cheating happens in every election. The difference this time is how blatant it was. The election commissions for several states failed to follow their state guidelines, and should have been disqualified, meaning throw out all the votes, or have a 3rd party audit the results.

That moment when you realize, Rand Paul is Agent Smith, and he's not going to let your crimes against humanity go unanswered.