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114754   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2021 Oct 28, 7:31pm  

DonewithDebate says
On what basis you say woman are weaker than men?


On biological basis of facts
114755   HeadSet   2021 Oct 28, 7:31pm  

DonewithDebate says
When women want kids they will hold men even stronger to not let them escape.

?? Since when do women rape men to get sex? All a babe has to do smile and undo a blouse button.
114756   FarmersWon   2021 Oct 29, 9:05am  

HeadSet says
DonewithDebate says
When women want kids they will hold men even stronger to not let them escape.

?? Since when do women rape men to get sex? All a babe has to do smile and undo a blouse button.


Not rape, But holding tight the men running away from having kids.
Need strong arms to keep them there as "woke men" are very scared of kids.
114757   Patrick   2021 Oct 29, 3:19pm  

DonewithDebate says
I would say that DNA/Diet is bigger factor than gender.
Do You disagree?


Well, men and women have significantly different DNA and that accounts for the enormous and unmistakable difference in strength between the sexes.

I think I actually understated the case. From the grip strength graph below, it looks like the very strongest women are not even at the median strength for a man:

Patrick says
114759   NDrLoR   2021 Oct 30, 9:05pm  

I've just ordered it, sounds like he knows what he's talking about!

Kurt Smithpeters

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The author interviews social workers in Netherlands and Portugal where opposite policies - contingency management, operant conditioning, and assertive case management - have eliminated what they call Open Drug Scenes (aka 'Homeless Camps' in the US) and maintain high rates of addicts staying off drugs. Both European and US experience shows that most addicts and mentally ill respond to incentives -- only the incentives are leading them down opposite paths, re-entering society vs trapped on the streets.

The book advocates a plan 'Cal-Psych' for implementing the European method.

The book goes further and explores the structures fueling this constant growth. Politically, progressive politicians and administrators are afraid to change policy because when they try they are labeled as heartless and racist by advocate groups and drummed out of office. The advocate groups are anchored by the ACLU and believe that involuntary treatment of addiction and mental illness is a violation of civil rights.

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114761   NDrLoR   2021 Oct 31, 7:38am  

HunterTits says
https://patrick.net/post/1341903/2021-10-14-reading-recommendations-thread
Thanks! I remember this one now and am going to delete mine!
114762   FarmersWon   2021 Oct 31, 4:49pm  

Don't know why Wahabbis so interested.

https://twitter.com/FaridQureshi_UK/status/1454812707648114689
Latest: Thousands of Sikhs waiting in the queues to vote for their free country #Khalistan
114763   Patrick   2021 Oct 31, 10:08pm  

The food thing makes more sense now.

If Punjab provides a lot of India's food, and Punjab becomes independent, then India has a big problem.

So I can imagine that India is illegally expropriating land in Punjab and trying to undermine any Sikh independence movement.
114764   FarmersWon   2021 Oct 31, 11:17pm  

Patrick says
The food thing makes more sense now.

If Punjab provides a lot of India's food, and Punjab becomes independent, then India has a big problem.

So I can imagine that India is illegally expropriating land in Punjab and trying to undermine any Sikh independence movement.


@Patrick
I suggest you to find a random Sikh guy, lesser the education and better it is.
Follow his trajectory of income growth and business ownership, You will see that most of them become fastest millionaires... fastest of anyone.

The reason is similar to Jewish(although skills are different) is hard work and lack of discrimination. Sikhs will be least bothered to not engage with any community and become successful quickly. Having a "open mind" is very congenial to success... Plus in most cases Sikhs are fun to work with and helps them in long run.

What worries Hindoo/Wahhabi cult is that:
1) Sikhs will become very successful soon and create headache for these exploitation based cults. Their citizens will also demand high level of living standard what Sikhs independent nation will have.
2) Hindooo has additional problem that "Hindoo cult" is generally cowards and have no ability to fight war. They will be decimated pretty quickly by China.

I think Hindoo cult can arrange food from elsewhere.
I am not in favor of religion based countries, Instead Sikhs try to finish off "Hindoo and Wahhabi" cult's hold on Bharat and deliver prosperity and justice.
I don't like that as Sikhs in past we need to migrate to USA to burden the labor markets here... It would be best to create additional engine of growth.
114765   FarmersWon   2021 Oct 31, 11:27pm  

Patrick says
I suppose creating famine could be almost as effective as billions of injections in killing vast numbers of people for the delight of Bill Gates and Klaus Schwab.


@patrick
Its the same shit everywhere. Make commoners become dependent for "control" .
It is not easy for elites to let people control their destiny. You will see lot of your commentators over here have hard time letting people to think for themselves.. Imagine how hard it will be for politician of govt technocrat.
That's where Sikhi shines. It lets people to chose your path as long as it is righteous path.
114766   Patrick   2021 Nov 1, 12:10pm  

https://reclaimthenet.org/delhi-high-court-tells-twitter-to-remove-objectionable-comments-about-hindu-deity/

Twitter is hypocritical. They say one thing and do another.

Criticism of The Toxxine Religion is censored, but criticism of Hinduism is not.
114767   FarmersWon   2021 Nov 1, 12:15pm  

Tyrants can try hard. Sikhs will keep singing songs and making films of fighters for common man.
Hope some day other Bhartis will grow backbone to join Sikhs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNpb4gGOO64

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2014/08/21/india-bans-film-accused-of-glorifying-indira-gandhis-assassination/
India blocks release of film accused of glorifying Indira Gandhi’s assassination
114768   FarmersWon   2021 Nov 1, 12:31pm  

Patrick says
https://reclaimthenet.org/delhi-high-court-tells-twitter-to-remove-objectionable-comments-about-hindu-deity/

Twitter is hypocritical. They say one thing and do another.

Criticism of The Toxxine Religion is censored, but criticism of Hinduism is not.


There are always two choices " spread hate" or "create unity" among masses.
As as a Sikh we believe in unity among common man and resistance to tyranny.

Why insult a Hindoo God, Which is in fact appropriated from Bharati culture and glorious past of good society.
Fight should only be with colonists(Whether British,Hindoo or Wahabbi).

I am not in favor of creating deliberate insult of faith of large number of people.. It simply plays in hands of tyrants and divisive forces.
114769   Patrick   2021 Nov 1, 1:32pm  

I agree, deliberate insults are counterproductive. But all speech worth protecting is necessarily offensive to someone, and so to have free speech we must protect insults too.
114770   indc   2021 Nov 1, 1:38pm  

Patrick says
I agree, deliberate insults are counterproductive. But all speech worth protecting is necessarily offensive to someone, and so to have free speech we must protect insults too.


The objectionable comments are about women deities. People talk about raping and other such degrading terms. I dont think such words are free speech.
114771   Patrick   2021 Nov 1, 1:40pm  

I think they are indeed free speech as they are not threats against specific people.

We need to hold the line or we will not even be allowed to criticize the toxxine.
114772   FarmersWon   2021 Nov 1, 7:53pm  

Patrick says
I think they are indeed free speech as they are not threats against specific people.

We need to hold the line or we will not even be allowed to criticize the toxxine.


The problem is some people may have sentiments hurt to extent that they are willing to take a punishment for violence they do against so called blasphemy guy. It still results in curtailing of free speech as you can't jail everyone before crime is committed.

Wahaabi threatens and kills people and Bhartis were tolerating it.
End result is Bharti Gods are insulted and Islamic ones are not..... It is still lopsided free speech.
114773   Patrick   2021 Nov 1, 10:30pm  

DonewithDebate says
Wahaabi threatens and kills people and Bhartis were tolerating it.


Still, free speech must be protected or we lose everything.
114774   Patrick   2021 Nov 1, 10:55pm  

DonewithDebate says
That's where Sikhi shines. It lets people to chose your path as long as it is righteous path.





But what if people disagree on what a righteous path is?
114775   FarmersWon   2021 Nov 1, 11:14pm  

Patrick says
DonewithDebate says
That's where Sikhi shines. It lets people to chose your path as long as it is righteous path.





But what if people disagree on what a righteous path is?



Everybody has their own.. and it hold as long as they allow "everyone else to also have their own too".
114776   FarmersWon   2021 Nov 1, 11:17pm  

Patrick says
DonewithDebate says
Wahaabi threatens and kills people and Bhartis were tolerating it.


Still, free speech must be protected or we lose everything.


We lose everything also when all our citizens are fighting each other and elites funding the "hate propaganda" in name of free-hateful-speech.
114777   FarmersWon   2021 Nov 2, 11:52am  

Hindoo cult is "Taliban" of Hindooo land.
Wahabbi cult is "Taliban" of Pakistan and Bangladesh.
They spread hatred in common people while serving elites to loot. Shameless cults!


https://www.haaretz.com/world-news/in-modi-s-india-there-s-no-more-room-for-muslim-superstars-in-bollywood-1.10342207
Opinion | In Modi's India, There's No More Room for Muslim Bollywood Superstars
114778   indc   2021 Nov 2, 12:05pm  

DonewithDebate says
https://scroll.in/latest/1009631/as-virat-kohlis-9-month-old-daughter-gets-rape-threats-delhi-womens-panel-issues-notice-to-police
As Virat Kohli’s 9-month-old daughter gets rape threats, Delhi women’s panel issues notice to police
Kohli’s daughter was targeted after he defended pacer Mohammed Shami, who was subjected to online abuse following India’s loss to Pakistan in the T20 World Cup.


You and your bloody narrative. Kohli did not get death threats or his daughter get rape threats because he defended shami. He got them because of his bad performance. And didn't you hear rape threats are FoE.

It was paki handles who were spreading hate against Shami. Everyone else were trolled much more than Shami, but your bloody narrative wants to use muslim card.
114779   indc   2021 Nov 2, 12:14pm  

DonewithDebate says
Hindoo cult is "Taliban" of Hindooo land.
Wahabbi cult is "Taliban" of Pakistan and Bangladesh.
They spread hatred in common people while serving elites to loot. Shameless cults!


https://www.haaretz.com/world-news/in-modi-s-india-there-s-no-more-room-for-muslim-superstars-in-bollywood-1.10342207
Opinion | In Modi's India, There's No More Room for Muslim Bollywood Superstars


Another muslim card narrative. Are you really a sikhi. It was hindus who made them superstars. Now since they went woke and started giving "knowledge" to hindus. Hindus told them to shutup and it really burns their/your behinds.

If you really want to how anti-hindu bollywood is check out gemsofbollywood twitter handle.

Same for Kholi after marrying a bollywood star he turned woke. Now he wants to teach people how to celebrate diwali. If you are in New york. Enjoy the fireworks on hudson for diwali. Nov 2nd to 4th.
114780   FarmersWon   2021 Nov 2, 12:16pm  

indc says
You and your bloody narrative. Kohli did not get death threats or his daughter get rape threats because he defended shami. He got them because of his bad performance. And didn't you hear rape threats are FoE.

It was paki handles who were spreading hate against Shami. Everyone else were trolled much more than Shami, but your bloody narrative wants to use muslim card.


Reading comprehension problems?... Read the heading again.
Rape and Riot hate cults: Is it Wahabbi or Hindooo cultist calling for rape of infant?

In the meanwhile Hindooo cult of Islam on rampage again:
https://twitter.com/ZaidZamanHamid/status/1452949838685954048
It is the dangerous time to be a Muslim in India...
All over India Hindu RSS gangs are attacking Muslim property, lives and honour.....
In the last seven days alone hundreds of Muslims have been butchered or wounded... Thousands of shops and vehicles have been destroyed....!
114781   FarmersWon   2021 Nov 2, 12:29pm  

indc says
Same for Kholi after marrying a bollywood star he turned woke. Now he wants to teach people how to celebrate diwali. If you are in New york. Enjoy the fireworks on hudson for diwali. Nov 2nd to 4th.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uF5yFZnIQ10
Need for "Tree langar" not polluting environment. Progressive Sikhs are changing fast and making their traditions environment friendly.
I want langar to go back to "leaf plates".
Not every Bharti is idiotic as Hindoo cult. Virat Kohli is smart guy .. Although He is coward to not speak for farmers, So Sikhs taunted his loss to Pakistan to nudge cricketers to grow backbone and support farmers.

114782   FarmersWon   2021 Nov 2, 12:36pm  

We need to stop detonating dangerous firecrackers on Gurupurbs and start growing more trees.
Virat Kohli message is for everyone not just Diwali celebrators. Hindooo cult just have to spread hate as this is their Islamic DNA.

https://us.1t.org/pledge/ecosikh-pledge-of-million-trees/
Pledge by EcoSikh
EcoSikh Pledge of Million Trees
Total Trees Pledged: 1,000,000

https://ecosikh.org/guru-nanak-sacred-forest/
114783   indc   2021 Nov 2, 12:54pm  

DonewithDebate says
It is the dangerous time to be a Muslim in India...
All over India Hindu RSS gangs are attacking Muslim property, lives and honour....


Did you share a video by a pakisthani?

How did he find out it was by RSS? did he give proof that it happened in last 1 week. I know it is a lie because there are more liberals who will share this news and we dont have to get it from a pakistani jihadi.

DonewithDebate says
Not every Bharti is idiotic as Hindoo cult. Virat Kohli is smart guy .. Although He is coward to not speak for farmers, So Sikhs taunted his loss to Pakistan to nudge cricketers to grow backbone and support farmers.


If he had backbone he would have talked about stuble burning by farmers in haryana and punjab. Instead of firecrackers by kids for few hours on diwali.
114784   FarmersWon   2021 Nov 2, 12:57pm  

indc says
Did you share a video by a pakisthani?

How did he find out it was by RSS? did he give proof that it happened in last 1 week.


It doesn't matter. Both Hindoo and Wahabbi can only spread hate.

indc says
If he had backbone he would have talked about stuble burning by farmers in haryana and punjab. Instead of firecrackers by kids for few hours on diwali.


I know very senior scientists in Punjab agriculture. You are right that "stuble burning" is polluting, But You also have no knowledge of agriculture.
It is compulsion of farmers from economic reasons.
Sikh farmers are progressive and will chose environment friendly methods if they can support their livelihood.
Removing stuble and mices is big issue, which fires solve but for sure are polluting.
114785   FarmersWon   2021 Nov 2, 1:59pm  

@patrick , Hindooo cult is as vile and intolerant as Wahabbi if not more.
Forget conversions, They won't even allow restaurant by Muslim to open.

https://twitter.com/MuslimMirror/status/1452868694900494341
Anand (Gujarat). #Hindu extremists opposing the opening of a restaurant owned a Muslim.They are sloughing slogans "If you want to stay in India, you will have to say Jai Sri Ram". #Hindutva.#RSS
114786   Rin   2021 Nov 2, 2:36pm  

Here's what you don't know about Indonesia. The ppl there are basically Malays, spread over the archipelago.

And if you know anything about Malay culture, they are not Arabs. In fact, they're more accepting than the Arabs over even the Arabs outside of the perimeter zones, Morocco, at the extreme end of North Africa, and Bahrain, the British protectorate (a.k.a the party zone) just outside of Saudi Arabia.

So thus, if there isn't a strong clerical influence, a lot of Malays (which also by ethnicity, includes Indonesians) will allow for other religions to exist if not prosper.

The moment that there's an Islamic Revolution where in place of let's say anti-communist secular General Suharto, you have Caliphate Abu Bakr or Khalid Ibin Waled or Timur "the Sword of Islam", then you'll see those converts executed as apostates.

In the years prior to 1979, a lot of Iranians thought the same way until the Islamic Revolution and since then, they never saw their homeland the same way again.
114787   indc   2021 Nov 2, 2:42pm  

DonewithDebate says
While Hindooo cult is killing people for conversions, Muslims seems to have allowed conversions.
@patrick , You constantly say "You can't leave Islam", It seems that atleast in Indonesia this is not the case.


You and your stupid narrative. No proof of killing by hindoos but keep repeating lies like goebbels. She converted because many in indonesia are converting to hinduism. They are naming their kids with hindu names and secretly practicing hindu rituals at home since they are still muslim country.
114788   Rin   2021 Nov 2, 3:00pm  

indc says
She converted because many in indonesia are converting to hinduism. They are naming their kids with hindu names and secretly practicing hindu rituals at home since they are still muslim country.


One more time, Indonesia is Malay(sia), outside of the continental clerical power.

In other words, the authentic nature of Malay culture (acceptance and unification of ppl), is happening outside of the Islamic clerical regions of Africa, the Middle East, Central Asia, South Asia, and mainland Asia-Malaysia where the South Indians, Chinese, and Malays live in a type of social apartheid no thanks to Islamic clerical types.
114789   FarmersWon   2021 Nov 2, 3:29pm  

indc says
DonewithDebate says
While Hindooo cult is killing people for conversions, Muslims seems to have allowed conversions.
@patrick , You constantly say "You can't leave Islam", It seems that atleast in Indonesia this is not the case.


You and your stupid narrative. No proof of killing by hindoos but keep repeating lies like goebbels. She converted because many in indonesia are converting to hinduism. They are naming their kids with hindu names and secretly practicing hindu rituals at home since they are still muslim country.


https://www.jstor.org/stable/24481234
Hindooo are not just show violence against conversions but also do forcible conversion using violence back to Hindooo.

Who are you kidding?
They have violent plan called “return back to Home or Hindooo”

www.firstpost.com/india/from-ghar-wapsi-to-pk-protests-hindutva-mob-violence-is-also-terrorism-2026347.html
From ghar wapsi to PK 'protests': Hindutva mob violence is also terrorism
114790   Bd6r   2021 Nov 2, 3:41pm  

can't really say that problems of Indonesia or India worry me too much, especially ones that have no bearing on US of A
114791   Patrick   2021 Nov 2, 3:48pm  

DonewithDebate says
You constantly say "You can't leave Islam", It seems that atleast in Indonesia this is not the case.


Her life is in great danger now.
114792   FarmersWon   2021 Nov 2, 4:01pm  

Patrick says
DonewithDebate says
You constantly say "You can't leave Islam", It seems that atleast in Indonesia this is not the case.


Her life is in great danger now.


Hard to know, But article restores some faith that Indonesia Muslims may not have been completely sold to dirty Wahabbi cult.

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In comments made to local media outlet Warta Ekonomi, Novel Bamukmin – part of Rizieq’s legal team and vice secretary general of a conservative Islam movement called 212 Alumni Brotherhood – said Muslims should be “thankful” that Sukmawati was now a murtad, or someone who had quit Islam.

“We [the Muslims] no longer need to be worried about her behaviour, [which was driven by] her religious uncertainty at that time,” he said.

He also bid “goodbye” to Sukmawati, praying that her decision “will be retaliated justly by Allah”.

But Abdul Mu’ti, general secretary at Muhammadiyah, the country’s second biggest Islamic group, urged Muslims “not to overreact, as it is an ordinary, personal event”.
114793   FarmersWon   2021 Nov 2, 4:03pm  

Patrick says
DonewithDebate says
You constantly say "You can't leave Islam", It seems that atleast in Indonesia this is not the case.


Her life is in great danger now.

Hindooo cult sure may want to create some trouble. It can help them in Bharat to spread more terror and hatred.
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In India, a right-wing Hindu nationalist media outlet OpIndia linked Sukmawati’s conversion to a centuries-old prophecy that a mystic priest called Sabdapalon would return and “restore the glory of the Hindu Javanese religion”.

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