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115316   richwicks   2022 Apr 29, 10:25pm  

FarmersWon says
Hindoo wage which is $1 a day is big problem.


Look, this is terribly unfair, but how about this?

Fire them all and let them starve and move production elsewhere.

Because that's the alternative. Is this incorrect?

Yes, it's terrible that CHILDREN are spending their lives making Nike sneakers - get rid of the factory - what are the consequences? What's the result of doing that? Perhaps revolt in the nation, perhaps starvation. It's not simple, and understanding economics is an enormous task - it's understanding how an entire planet cooperates.
115317   richwicks   2022 Apr 29, 10:52pm  

FarmersWon says
Hindoo have no jobs. they will love to work in Nike manufacturer. It will improve their life 100x ... which is a shame that how low base they have.
Hindooo elites are thugs and 100x worse than US globalists


Is your grammar ironic? I can't tell.

Desperate people do desperate things.

I really have no concept of your thinking.
115318   richwicks   2022 Apr 29, 11:00pm  

FarmersWon says
You have to meet some people who live on $1 a day . It will be easy to grasp after that.


This is not an answer. Is it better that they make nothing?

Don't answer me in riddles, think.
115319   BayArea   2022 Apr 30, 6:30am  

The problem with affordable housing is that people who own houses already usually don’t want affordable housing… so there will be no affordable housing, at least not on any scale that makes a difference to the masses.

To go further, NOBODY who owns a home will want to own that home next to affordable housing because the risk to their investment is too high.
115320   Bitcoin   2022 Apr 30, 6:38am  

exactly. NIMBY. I got my home(s) screw you guys who rent. I hated it prior to owning homes. Now I am the same. In a sense its survival of the fittest.
115321   BayArea   2022 Apr 30, 6:42am  

Homeownership is an exclusive club.

It has to be otherwise the lawn goes to shit quickly and after the lawn goes, everything goes.
115322   mell   2022 Apr 30, 7:24am  

115323   mell   2022 Apr 30, 7:31am  

BayArea says

The problem with affordable housing is that people who own houses already usually don’t want affordable housing… so there will be no affordable housing, at least not on any scale that makes a difference to the masses.

To go further, NOBODY who owns a home will want to own that home next to affordable housing because the risk to their investment is too high.


Bitcoin says

exactly. NIMBY. I got my home(s) screw you guys who rent. I hated it prior to owning homes. Now I am the same. In a sense its survival of the fittest.


The irony is that where we used to rent in pac heights in SF there was newly built affordable housing that was more luxurious than the 1900s moldy crap shacks falling apart around them. It even had its own daycare. The people living there were pretty normal, not too thuggy, so the prices around it were actually supported by that new affordable housing construction. It's more about the number of hobos on the streets, shit and trash on the streets, crime (we def had many car break ins and some burglaries), junkies and shoplifting. The hood isn't doing well due to the general SF decline, but the affordable housing block didn't have much to do with it.
115324   BayArea   2022 Apr 30, 8:12am  

how “affordable” was that housing you describe?

And sure, there’s women that are taller than men. We can show some examples.
115325   mell   2022 Apr 30, 8:20am  

BayArea says

how “affordable” was that housing you describe?

And sure, there’s women that are taller than men. We can show some examples.


Well it's probably an outlier, after all it is SF which gives hobos better housing than taxpaying renters who rent crapshacks and are footing the bill.
115326   Goran_K   2022 Apr 30, 10:34am  

BayArea says

The problem with affordable housing is that people who own houses already usually don’t want affordable housing… so there will be no affordable housing, at least not on any scale that makes a difference to the masses.

To go further, NOBODY who owns a home will want to own that home next to affordable housing because the risk to their investment is too high.


Affordable housing is also a grift for democrat politicians. How many billions of dollars has SF levied upon residents for affordable housing programs?

How many units have actually been built?

Most of the money went into fulfilling debt obligations. Even the homeless care non-profits in SF are grifts. Seriously, look at their budget expenses, 85-90% “salaries”.
115327   porkchopXpress   2022 Apr 30, 12:09pm  

This time is different
115328   Maga_Chaos_Monkey   2022 Apr 30, 12:18pm  

@porkchopexpress I hear house prices are rapidly falling in Memphis TN. I know you've been scoping Nashville but perhaps it'll rub off soon if it hasn't already?
115329   mell   2022 Apr 30, 12:21pm  

Goran_K says

BayArea says

The problem with affordable housing is that people who own houses already usually don’t want affordable housing… so there will be no affordable housing, at least not on any scale that makes a difference to the masses.

To go further, NOBODY who owns a home will want to own that home next to affordable housing because the risk to their investment is too high.


Affordable housing is also a grift for democrat politicians. How many billions of dollars has SF levied upon residents for affordable housing programs?

How many units have actually been built?

Most of the money went into fulfilling debt obligations. Even the homeless care non-profits in SF are grifts. Seriously, look at their budget expenses, 85-90% “salaries”.


The more govt grift the better for leftoids, they're useless otherwise
115330   porkchopXpress   2022 Apr 30, 12:46pm  

FJB says

@porkchopexpress I hear house prices are rapidly falling in Memphis TN. I know you've been scoping Nashville but perhaps it'll rub off soon if it hasn't already?
Thanks. I'm hoping it will if rates keep rising. We gotta break the back of this bitch.

For where we want to live for our kids, the market is ridiculously insane. We may end up renting another year here in CA just to see what happens.
115331   AmericanKulakMaximumTrumper   2022 Apr 30, 6:02pm  

Step One: Water is not land, nobody "owns it". Repeal all Iberian water laws and tell the Gettys and the rest of the big landowning Democrats to suck a cactus.
Step Two: Reserve water for Residential use for first, not including lawns. Lawn water can be brought bottled Aquafina or Dasani. If you have the wealth to have lawn grass in the desert, you can water your lawn with bottled water.
Step Thee: Expand water storage.
115332   clambo   2022 Apr 30, 10:24pm  

Boy I hope he’s not correct.
Lately my greed is being replaced by fear somewhat.
115333   Ceffer   2022 May 1, 12:52am  

Beware the person who claims they predicted the future in the past in order to influence/manipulate you in the present about their predictions on the future present. It is a standard manipulative calling card of the con artist.
115334   AD   2022 May 1, 1:18am  

Yes, one major reason for deciding not to build the LCD factory is that they could not compete with the Chinese manufacturers. Also Wisconsin had a new governor elected which was another reason cited by the former project manager for the LCD factory to be built in Wisconsin.
115335   BayArea   2022 May 1, 2:34am  

I hope you aren’t making any decisions based on what this nut is saying
115336   Al_Sharpton_for_President   2022 May 1, 6:12am  

Played out.
115337   HeadSet   2022 May 1, 7:34am  

Seems to me, from looking at the Russian miliary performance in Ukraine, that the money for military readiness, training, equipment, and upgrades was siphoned off by corrupt officials.
115338   HeadSet   2022 May 1, 7:47am  

So, the spin is that the "Pandemic" caused Bay Area move-outs, and not the high taxes, crime, and bum population caused by the local politicians?
115339   mell   2022 May 1, 8:06am  

HeadSet says

So, the spin is that the "Pandemic" caused Bay Area move-outs, and not the high taxes, crime, and bum population caused by the local politicians?


Yep. And still way too many asshoes in the bay area clogging up shit
115340   RWSGFY   2022 May 1, 8:47am  

Good!
115341   GNL   2022 May 1, 10:00am  

Too many people. As the population grows and people are living on top of one another, expect it to get worse. No matter what the solutions.
115342   porkchopXpress   2022 May 1, 11:54am  

It's not rocket science. Cheap money is inflating the currency which drives up asset prices. Pulling that away will slow/stop the inflation and drive down asset prices.
115343   AD   2022 May 1, 9:11pm  

porkchopexpress says
It's not rocket science. Cheap money is inflating the currency which drives up asset prices. Pulling that away will slow/stop the inflation and drive down asset prices.


Yep, stock price being driven by cheap money such as stock buybacks. Its not mostly because of productivity gains.

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115344   AD   2022 May 1, 9:31pm  

Look at the etf "ARKK".

Top 10 holdings include Tesla, Zoom, Roku, Coinbase, Teladoc Health, and Twilio.

S&P 500 is down + 14% but a lot of the major tech companies like Tesla, Facebook, AMD, etc are down at least 30%.
115345   AD   2022 May 1, 11:42pm  

The only factor which may limit downside risk is the PE ratio. Its very low compared to 2000.

https://www.multpl.com/s-p-500-pe-ratio?source=patrick.net

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115346   Misc   2022 May 2, 12:36am  

ad says

The only factor which may limit downside risk is the PE ratio. Its very low compared to 2000.

https://www.multpl.com/s-p-500-pe-ratio?source=patrick.net

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The earnings part of the P/E ratio was elevated in 2021 because of all the "free" money governments were giving to their citizens. There was also plenty of cash-out re-fi's people were spending.

The GDP contracted about 1.4% during the 1st quarter and overall spending from the federal government is forecasted to be about $1.3 trillion less than last year. Cash-out re-fi's have gone down dramatically since interest rates went up. Europe is in a recession and China is a mess. It is difficult to increase earnings with the economies declining.

Inflation is also having an impact on profit margins they also are declining.

While it is possible for stocks to go up with declining earnings and increasing interest rates, it would be an anomaly.
115347   Tenpoundbass   2022 May 2, 8:08am  

Any idiot with half a brain knows the only thing propping up the 300% over inflated stock market across the board, is the millions of captive employees mentally entrapped to put a large chunk of their shitty pay into their 401K. There's a lot of those people about to go missing and fall off the map.
Companies have not been producing all of the value they claim, they keep growing because of all of the money thrown into the pool of capital they have, through people "Playing" the stock market and and going "any many, mini mo" when choosing an index fund for their 401K portfolio.
Those folks that have maintained their belief in hanging onto cash or saving money in the bank, are going to be smartest folks in the room.

I hope they lead the charge of America's next economic rebound, because that's what America needs, is sensible entrepreneurs hiring competent sensible people.
America is about to learn, not everyone is Warren Buffet, now get your asses back to work!
115348   mell   2022 May 2, 8:46am  

Just avoid the tech trannies and everything hip the big hedge fund "managers" have been buying. Then you'll be fine, plenty of value stocks out there
115349   GNL   2022 May 2, 9:14am  

Tenpoundbass says
There's a lot of those people about to go missing and fall off the map.

How are they going to fall off the map?
115350   Bitcoin   2022 May 2, 1:28pm  

DooDahMan says
FJB says
house prices are rapidly falling in Memphis TN


Stats? asking price reductions doesnt mean YoY or even QoQ is negative.....
115351   Booger   2022 May 2, 4:18pm  

The only reason it's going to update NY is all the subsidies, and the lack of good jobs there. That and the amount of water available. If NY wasn't such a bad place to run a business, they would have gotten a chip plant years ago.
115352   Ceffer   2022 May 2, 4:19pm  

Great. That backlog order for talking Real Dolls is going to disappear!
115353   EBGuy   2022 May 2, 7:08pm  

Happier times for the ex-Governor Cuomo Announces $1 Billion Public-Private Partnership with Cree Creating World's Largest Silicon Carbide Device Facility at the Marcy Nanocenter
115354   richwicks   2022 May 2, 7:39pm  

FarmersWon says
https://www.vox.com/recode/23048906/chip-shortage-manufacturing-america-biden?source=patrick.net

America is trying to fix the chip shortage one factory at a time

A billion-dollar chip factory just opened in upstate New York. The Biden administration wants more.


It's already there. It's essentially a part of Global Foundries which is in Malta. It's up the road from I-90 (i.e. West) of Albany in basically Utica. This is just more PR bullshit of this administration, he didn't make it happen. There's been effort to secure semiconductor manufacturing in the United States for nearly a decade recognizing the supply chain weakness.
115355   Patrick   2022 May 2, 10:26pm  

If I recall correctly, Trump got some Taiwanese semiconductor maker to promise to open a plant in the US.

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