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116643   zzyzzx   2022 Jun 6, 9:41am  

New refineries and expanding capacity at existing refineries are two different things.
116644   zzyzzx   2022 Jun 6, 10:04am  

I'd like more details on exactly what failed and why. I have a suspicion that it's either new stuff that wasn't tested under real world conditions or something that was supposed to save fuel that broke.
116645   Patrick   2022 Jun 6, 10:06am  

WookieMan says
Dude, chill with the passive aggressiveness.


@DooDahMan You are absolutely passive-aggressive, in a huge way.

Most of your comments seem to be designed to provoke anger and disrupt, not to constructively add to any discussion.

I suspect you are a previous user who was banned for exactly the same behavior before. I'm going to run all your comments through moderation for a while.
116646   fdhfoiehfeoi   2022 Jun 6, 12:22pm  

Yes, they are all Standard Oil at the end of the day. But you may have noticed Arco stations do not put the BP in their logos anymore. There's a reason.

The driving doesn't vary because the gas stations are all in my town, and I'm not a door-to-door saleseman, or courier. Chevron gas is for shit.
116647   FarmersWon   2022 Jun 6, 7:55pm  

Starve the poor Muslim or lower caste/untochable beef eaters of Hindooo land and especially kill their leather industry...
But sell your "mom" everywhere to make money by same upper caste Hindooo cultists... Pathetic inhumane Hindooo cult.

... The contempt they have for regular folks is unbearable.

https://sabrangindia.in/article/who-making-millions-india-out-beef-export-muslims-think-again
Whenever there is any talk of slaughter of animals it is commonly assumed that only Muslims who love meat are engaged in this business. However, you will be surprised to know that the biggest modern slaughter houses in India which export beef have little to do with the followers of Islam. In fact, the big players are from the Hindu community.
116648   FarmersWon   2022 Jun 6, 8:04pm  

Hindooo's mother treating her cultist kids for letting it go stray on road.!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPq6aLFmCiQ
116649   Patrick   2022 Jun 6, 9:18pm  

http://jpfo.org/articles-2022/israel-schools-armed.htm


Protecting Schools the Israeli Way

The widest circles belong to law enforcement and society, doing their best to track and forestall potential threats, and more effectively treat mental illness. We’ve now learned of multiple catastrophic failures at every level of social and political prevention in the Parkland shooting.

If society and law enforcement failed this badly, the idea that guns should be taken out of the hands of law-abiding citizens is folly.

The security circles that we can do something about begin at any school’s entrance, says Goldstein. America wants action. This is action that can be taken right now. "There should only be one entrance and exit into any school property. Fences, security cameras, and a constant check that these areas have not been compromised is essential. At that one entrance, a guard must know exactly who it is that is entering the school property at all times. The guard should have the right to search all vehicles and bags.”

Guards at movie studios check ID and are permitted to search vehicles entering the lot. After 9/11, they even used mirrors to look underneath cars. How can we protect movie studios, yet not give our children the same protection?

“There should be a minimum of two guards on every campus, providing a contingency in case one of them is disabled,” Goldstein adds.“Who are these guards? There are thousands of proud veterans who would gladly step up and use their training to protect our nation's children, as well as be grateful for the employment.”
116650   WookieMan   2022 Jun 7, 6:27am  

DooDahMan says

The Saudi's just jacked up export oil prices again in the last 48 hours (not for the U.S. temporarily at least) which in turn has caused an even bigger spike in world oil prices. Goldman now is calling for $130 a bbl oil based on global demand. At the current trend $150 a bbl is looking more and more like a sure thing until there is a "Global" demand destruction event or series of events.

We've had oil prices at or above $130 before and outside of a few cities gas prices didn't hit $5/gal during the Bush years. What we're witnessing is insane. Closest I've been to a $100 fill up was maybe $75 two years ago, otherwise always less. I've breached $115 per fill up now and we're near one of the midwests largest refineries.

There's less demand. Even with summer travel. The economics don't make sense. Congress or the White House can do something, they just don't or won't. Biden can do stuff, but we get fixated on party politics and "green" energy or you won't get elected. Things like pipelines are very safe and either way we're pulling this shit from the ground anyway.

Fact is urban city dewellers lean left and consume substantially more energy than rural people. I buy a cow from the local farmer, he doesn't have to load dozens in a trailer and haul them somewhere in a semi spitting out deisel fumes. I grow the veggies we use most of the time that last 6-12 months if prepped well. No urban heat sink where I have to run A/C high all summer. A 2/2 Condo in say Chicago at 800sq ft, consumes way more energy than I do when you factor everything being shipped in. Idleing on a highway for hours in a semi.

Even if no new refineries are being built as you claimed, we just had pandemic where it's okay to WFH and supposedly millions of people died. Oil consumption is down. Or the free handouts made people less likely to work. It's a combination of a lot of things and Biden and Congress could fix this with policy. This is on D's and R's too, not just picking on one side.
116651   Bd6r   2022 Jun 7, 9:15am  

WookieMan says

We've had oil prices at or above $130 before and outside of a few cities gas prices didn't hit $5/gal during the Bush years.

Perhaps refining is now more expensive because of Bidenflation.
DooDahMan says

Regardless of political party whoever is in the White House/Congress can do very little now

Build more pipelines, allow drilling on Fed land, stop vilifying oil companies who behave in exactly the same way or even better than so-called renewable energy companies (who suck on taxpayer teat more than oil and make inefficient and not necessarily environmentally efficient product).

About lack of refineries being the only reason behind higher gas prices - I don't buy that. Assuming that gas price is A+B+C+D, where A is oil price which accounts for about 60% of gas price, refining which is about 20% (B), and the rest is transportation, marketing (C), and taxes (D), the higher oil price is gotta have an oversized influence on gas prices. Oil price can be influenced by gubbermint and so can the taxes. It goes without saying that oil companies will try to maximize profits, and it is easier for them to do it at times when we have gyrations in oil price (when it goes up, jack prices up fast; when it goes down, lower slowly), but I think it is not correct to say that gov't has no influence.
116652   RC2006   2022 Jun 7, 10:00am  

You don't understand CA. It's population it has been importing over the last 40 years is ok with the way things are. Most the people that would be against what's going on have bailed or are sheltered. Most under thirty have been indoctrinated.
116653   FarmersWon   2022 Jun 7, 10:43am  

RC2006 says

You don't understand CA. It's population it has been importing over the last 40 years is ok with the way things are. Most the people that would be against what's going on have bailed or are sheltered. Most under thirty have been indoctrinated.


I have to only chuckle.
There are tons of parents and normal people in California who don't like crime.
Some areas every state have crime.. Is Houston completely crime free?
116654   Bd6r   2022 Jun 7, 11:27am  

FarmersWon says

Is Houston completely crime free

no, because they vote D, just like in CA
116655   RC2006   2022 Jun 7, 11:30am  

Bd6r says

FarmersWon says


Is Houston completely crime free

no, because they vote D, just like in CA


Because a bunch of CA libs moved there.
116656   FarmersWon   2022 Jun 7, 12:29pm  

Bd6r says

FarmersWon says


Is Houston completely crime free

no, because they vote D, just like in CA


West Virgina is blue state as per your logic.

West Virginia is currently represented in the Senate by Democrat Joe Manchin (serving since 2010) and Republican Shelley Moore Capito (serving since 2015), making it one of seven states to have a split United States Senate delegation.
116657   Bd6r   2022 Jun 7, 1:43pm  

FarmersWon says


West Virgina is blue state as per your logic.

Relates more to D local judges and District Attorneys, who let perps go. Doubt that in WV they are D's; in Houston/Harris county, they are.
116658   Hircus   2022 Jun 7, 2:00pm  

This past week I read some articles about the potential new LA mayor - was recently a republican who did an republican > independent > democrat switcheroo over the past few years, and is now leading the LA mayor race by platforming on fixing democrat failures in taxes, crime, and homelessness. The dems are scurred because hes very popular, and have been trying to focus fire on him but supposedly nothing is working and sticking to him.

I hope he wins, but he seems like an infiltrator, and I suspect he may go down soon if he's surrounded by viscous angry libs in all the other govt positions, seething in anger that hes rocking the boat and infiltrating their precious fortified stronghold of LA. He'll need to watch his six lest he catches a dagger from an npc.

I must say I LOVE the last minute registration as a dem trick. It really flings the whole "change what you identify as" turd right back in their fayce.
116659   EBGuy   2022 Jun 7, 2:41pm  

What happened in our municipality is that many local quality of life ordinances were suspended in the name of compassion. Overnight camping and impromptu RV parks sprung up around town, along with the attendant bad behavior. I did a several mile walk this past weekend and many of the trouble spots have been cleaned up, but a lot of shenanigans still going on off the main thorough fares.

As a democrat-> independent, I think Shellenberger has the best chance to make a run for the governorship...
116661   Patrick   2022 Jun 7, 4:04pm  



116662   EBGuy   2022 Jun 7, 4:29pm  

Booger says


At what point do I sell off, or at least start selling covered calls on my oil stocks?



A lot may depend on President BIden's trip to The Kingdom. All bets are off if MBS brings out the Orb of Covfefe...
116663   FarmersWon   2022 Jun 7, 5:23pm  

Sikhs giving needed respect to Hindooo butchers.
116664   Ceffer   2022 Jun 7, 7:56pm  

DooDahMan says



tressing that even if the submarine should spring a leak, she was prepared to go down with the ship.


I think it's more like, "When you have sold your soul to the devil (Globalists, Chinese, whoever), the devil never lets you rest."
You notice all the crumbles who stay in power forever. About the age of 60 or so, most people just want to relax, travel, spend time with their kids, read, etc.

These politicians have been burnished as criminal emplacements, and they got rich doing it.

However, the criminal code is that once you stop producing, you are then nothing but a potential State's witness, or a smarmy deathbed confession waiting to happen. Plus, you are an investment as a brand name and a figurehead.

These guys may have to stay on the job to stay alive. They have to show up to the makeup and dressing wagon every morning for their coupla hours of primping while reading the ticker tapes from Switzerland for their day's performance. I don't think they have a say in their retirement as much as most people think they do.

They got the dough, but can't relax to enjoy it as long as they have a breath to impose their fuckaciousness. Devil's bargain.
116665   richwicks   2022 Jun 7, 8:30pm  

Well, with some hope he is!

I've seen many companies in Silly Con Valley go under because some immigrant asshole who controlled the company was a bigot. They'd hire only from a select group not based on competence, and as a result, they were outcompeted.

Wouldn't mind seeing Google go under. I hope he's racist as fuck.

Google is a poison and the sooner they go down, the better. I welcome their destruction. They are traitors to our Constitution. Fuck them.
116666   WookieMan   2022 Jun 7, 8:39pm  

DooDahMan says

Oil company executives would rather find ways to boost their share price than increase production

It's a volume business, you do understand that, right? Oil will always make money. They can pump and refine more oil and make the same profits at $60 or $130 per barrel. They just sell fewer barrels at $130 and the margins are higher.

This is my wife's business. I'm going to have a fantastic year because people are not all that intelligent about the market for crude.

We can shoot the shit here talking about oil, but if you haven't worked in the industry and sold it you're kind of talking out your ass.
116667   GreaterNYCDude   2022 Jun 7, 8:59pm  

Ceffer says

9. Caligulan excess, hot and cold running hookers and cocaine, Satanic world conquest, Babylonian loan sharking to victimize the plebs, plans for psychopathic bloodline political dominance, Swiss citizenship.

I think I'm almost there. Just a few hundred years more of saving.


You forgot a Burisma board seat...
116668   FarmersWon   2022 Jun 7, 10:22pm  

richwicks says


Well, with some hope he is!

I've seen many companies in Silly Con Valley go under because some immigrant asshole who controlled the company was a bigot. They'd hire only from a select group not based on competence, and as a result, they were outcompeted.

Wouldn't mind seeing Google go under. I hope he's racist as fuck.

Google is a poison and the sooner they go down, the better. I welcome their destruction. They are traitors to our Constitution. Fuck them.


Anything Hindoo cult touches goes to dogs due to incompetence , intolerance and corruption..
I am not sure if Sunder is Bharti or filthy Hindoo cultist... If he is Hindooo google destruction is certain.
https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2022/jun/06/gupta-brothers-arrested-in-dubai-over-alleged-corruption-in-south-africa
116669   Patrick   2022 Jun 7, 10:25pm  

gabbar says

14 percent of men never live long enough to collect social security, which can start at 62


My dad took social security as soon as he could, and he bet right. He died at age 75.
116670   Patrick   2022 Jun 7, 10:27pm  

AmericanKulak says


Try not to live in a place where the city you live next to is the only place of employment within any kind of reasonable commute distance.


Right, you want to minimize your dependencies. Dependency is weakness.
116671   FarmersWon   2022 Jun 7, 10:44pm  

Filthy Hindooo is modern day Mughals trying to destroy Sikhs.
They will end up like Mughals while Khalsa will come out strong.

https://twitter.com/bedi_sodhi/status/1534372142175113217
Another video shows what they think about you & their policies.. They are just normal citizens think about what secret policies they have against
...
Only power sikhs have is in Indian Army.We have seen it in 1984 even in Farmers protest where Retd Army men participated & govt had to issue notices.Not to use Army uniform to Participate in protest.They don’t even want you to serve their Nation? This is wat normal citizens think
116672   FarmersWon   2022 Jun 7, 10:57pm  

https://twitter.com/Markaskwala/status/1533279087053135872
Kuldeep Brar who killed young sons of Sikh mothers, his own son died due to drug overdose and his daughter ran away from home and married a black man and later she too died with drug overdose.
116673   WookieMan   2022 Jun 8, 6:41am  

clambo says

Another way to pay off credit card debt is to die.
It's an "unsecured debt" so they are stuck with the debt when you finally depart this world.

They're stuck with the debt even if alive or dead. It was a business transaction on their end. They made a bad deal if you don't pay. No one should ever fall into the bankruptcy lawyer trap or the collectors trap. You're broke and you're paying someone to be more broke with BK. My dad handled hundreds if not thousands of BK's so I know the game.

Screen calls. Never say your name answering the phone. If they ask your name say no and what do they want. If you were ever to get served, don't comply. Just say you're watching the house for a buddy and you're not you if you don't know the person.

I've never had to do this, but it's the way to make it go away. Collection companies will not go to court to garnish wages for anything under $20k and likely higher. If you're 1099 or have a stay at home spouse, there's not much they can do either and they know it. I got a Ph.D. in this shit during the housing bust as we did short sales to get commissions. But we also needed to know about other debt and have talked to 100's of attorneys that knew the game. Not honest or ethical, but at some point you need to take care of you. Remember, it's a business transaction. The banks made the game. Sometimes they have to take a loss.
116674   komputodo   2022 Jun 8, 8:00am  

gabbar says

I think most people should retire as early as they can

what exactly do people mean when they say "retire"? Or is it another of those undefinable words like Woman?
116675   Eman   2022 Jun 8, 8:02am  

Ultra_FJB says

gabbar says
What are examples of good debt?


Asset debt not liability debt. Debt that pays me instead of me paying it.


This is making the spread between the borrowing cost and the return you’re getting. You’re essentially operating as a bank. Banks pay the savers pennies while lending their money out for dollars and making the spread. Bravo. 👏
116676   1337irr   2022 Jun 8, 9:29am  

Eman says

Ultra_FJB says


gabbar says

What are examples of good debt?


Asset debt not liability debt. Debt that pays me instead of me paying it.



This is making the spread between the borrowing cost and the return you’re getting. You’re essentially operating as a bank. Banks pay the savers pennies while lending their money out for dollars and making the spread. Bravo. 👏

Perfect example right now for me...borrowing $138K @ 5.5 APR and lending $50K out at 15%. The rest of the money I can invest in the stock market in high quality companies to manage my risk.
116677   Patrick   2022 Jun 8, 10:07am  

DooDahMan says

Not sure where or how my comment went but here it is again - it was awaiting moderation but then just vanished for some odd reason



@DooDahMan You know it was passive-aggressive and personal.

Please stop doing that.
116678   WookieMan   2022 Jun 8, 10:16am  

DooDahMan says

Not really - The top 25 oil and gas companies lost an eye-popping $811 billion altogether in market capitalization between the end of 2019 to the end of March 2020.

You have to understand losses. Take one shit year and make future years more profitable by having a huge write off that carries over year after year cutting taxes to damn near zero.

Oil companies never "lose" money. The drillers maybe if they made a bad bet. The likes of Exon, BP, Shell, never "actually" lose money. They wouldn't be in business if they did. They take the losses for a year or two and pump the price and pay no taxes on the gains. Rinse and repeat. I'm young, but this seemingly should be obvious to everyone. It's been going on for decades.

Our tax code makes it okay to suck for a year or two, not pay taxes and then win for a year or two and still not pay taxes. Carryover.
116679   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2022 Jun 8, 9:39pm  

they spent billions on that shit? fuck we getting hrift fucked in the ass by these people.
116680   raunak91   2022 Jun 8, 10:32pm  

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116681   FarmersWon   2022 Jun 8, 10:43pm  

raunak91 says


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116682   Patrick   2022 Jun 8, 10:45pm  

That was just spammer I think.

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