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B people are business people or billionaires. E people are employees earning W2s.

SubOink says

what's the consequence of the deflationary depression? I don't understand the concept of it.

Don't worry about this Sub, it will never happen with our demographics, we don't have the issues Japan or Europe has for decades

Thunderlips Russian Agent 0069 says

Elites often crash the system or ride it down (in denial most of the time because power is largely relative) to destruction to preserve their power.

"People of privilege will always risk their complete destruction rather than surrender any material part of their advantage."
John Kenneth Galbraith

I think pollsters know how to do a statistical sampling much, much, much better than you do.

When I look at Nate's "real time" election forecast with Trump only at 13% chance of winning - I laugh my ass off.

I've seen one Hillary sign in five states - and I've traveled through some pretty liberal areas. Trump signs on the other hand are popping up everywhere.

Hmm... Maybe the number of signs you see while driving isn't really a good indicator of election results?

And for the superhero--I don't know what % people who say they are Dems vs. % of people who say they are Reps will adequately represent the voting public. But pollsters do a LOT of work in this area to ensure that their statistical sampling works(and historical data shows they are getting pretty good at it), so I'll trust them over you.

None of those people was running for President of the United States.

Tampajoe says

Hmm... Maybe the number of signs you see while driving isn't really a good indicator of election results?

Except that when Obama ran, he was plastered everywhere - same with Bush.

Certainly not a great methodology, but I have yet to see any Hillary support anywhere.

Bernie on the other hand, HAD a good shot. I've seen plenty of his swag. With him out, and Clinton robbing him - I don't think she has what it takes to pull it off.

Yep--and Al Gore accepted the result and began the healing process for the country.

And pretty sure Trump is running.

Not really--there were way more Romney signs than Obama.

And Bernie wasn't robbed. He just never got the minority vote he needed.

Who's they? I was talking about pollsters. That sentence is not representative of the vast majority of polls.

I know--anyone who doesn't believe in your Breitbart conspiracy theories is sheep.

I'm not your google monkey. If you have a point, make it.

junkmail says

Chuckle.

You think a democratic process really exists?

Electoral college

Gerrymandering districts

Backroom deals

Lobbyists

Capitalism

Privatization

Corruption

Entitlements

State Secrets

Plausible Deniability

Populism

Super Delegates

Super Pacs

Mob Rule

Bundling

Campaign Committees

Shell Companies

Slush Funds

You are a dimmer bulb than I though...

Are you actually stating that the existence of all of these things means that Trump should not accept the results of the election and should instigate a revolt?

Tampajoe says

Not really--there were way more Romney signs than Obama.

And Bernie wasn't robbed. He just never got the minority vote he needed.

You're missing the point. Whether it was a red state or a blue state - you'd always see support for candidates in the past - Bush/Gore/Kerry/Obama - no matter who was winning or losing. ALWAYS.

I don't know where you live, but I haven't seen any Hillary swag at all - except for one sign on a liberal college campus in Nashville, and a bumper sticker TAPED to the inside of a car window just outside Philadelphia. That's it.

Whereas, I see Trump bumper stickers, yard signs, billboards and all sorts of swag for this guy on a daily basis. This is across the 5 states I've visited over the last 2 months.

If I flew in from another country, and didn't know the election candidates, I'd have zero idea Hillary was even running.

Another Troll Thread.
Bush v Gore
Forgot to mention the activist Rep/Con SCOTUS
not requiring a full recount or another vote to make sure every Republican
vote was counted in Red State wingnut Florida.
Now that there is some major rigging.

Trolling with facts is fun.

I think I get your point, but I just don't see the relevance. Just look at ironman's post-he saw much more Bernie swag but he still lost pretty decisively.

By Saturday, Clinton's average-of-all-polls/national survey lead will be down to + 4 points max. The margin of error will be +/-3.

But much more importantly, Trump will have made critical gains in key battleground states such as Ohio, Florida, Nevada, North Carolina, and especially, Pennsylvania, which I predict will turn "leaning Trump" within a week.

Trump did much better last night than the lame stream media is collectively suggesting today; he not only stemmed the bleeding, but REGAINED MOMENTUM on economic issues, security concerns, and re-shifted the spotlight to the long-standing pattern of corruption of Hillary, her acquaintances, and the Clinton Foundation, too (this is Hillary's Achilles heel, for very good reasons).

On a sidenote, and on a more subjective basis, Hillary looked somewhat feeble physically at the 3rd debate. She lacks physical gravitas, which whether some people want to accept or not (e.g. Maco Rubio), still matters at a deep, psychological level to many voters.

Tampajoe says

Just look at ironman's post-he saw much more Bernie swag but he still lost pretty decisively.

He lost, but look at all the shit the DNC had to go through to ensure a hillary victory. I mean really, Bernie got screwed, and a lot of people lost faith in the DNC party, since they rigged the entire thing in her favor.

Now what? The DNC has a candidate who is largely unpopular, and alienated half the DNC base because of how Bernie was screwed. No one likes her.

And I only know of one person in my workplace of hundreds who'd even consider voting for the hag.

(Disclaimer: I voted Dem in the last two elections)

Meanwhile, Bill's getting a bj in the back of hillary's campaign jet.

How many times do Fat Birther's cocksuckers have to claim that the ferret-haired mollusc is qualified? Will they ever convince themselves he is?

Is the process rigged?
Ask Bernie.

For someone who hates the rotten-and-corrupt, parasitic too-big-to-fail banks, DBOAPD, with good reason -

- it's a mystery to me as to how you seem very much anti-Trump and slightly pro-Hillary.

Hillary's literal fund-raising foundation (not to mention 23 million earned in bank speaking fees - nice payday), is generated by the likes of BofA, Goldman, JPMorgan, Morgan Stanley, et al.

She is THE banks' candidate, by a galactic distance.

How many times do bankster-backed, catheter wearing, diazepam injecting, grandma's carpet-munchers' have to claim that the bleached-hair, exoskeletonwearing vermin is qualified? Will they ever convince themselves she is?

Brexit

I didn't know that the statement that Gore accepted the results was controversial. Do I really need to back that up?

http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/algore2000concessionspeech.html

HEY YOU says

Forgot to mention the activist Rep/Con SCOTUS

not requiring a full recount or another vote to make sure every Republican

vote was counted in Red State wingnut Florida.

Now that there is some major rigging.

What about stooopid Dem voters?

U biased, bro?

Both sides same!

Hillary has stolen elections, sexually assaulted women, left Ivana for Marla Maples, & evaded taxes.

Trump will fall in line. He made a big mistake in the debate last night out of ignorance, but once the election is certified, #LoserDonald will accept the results.

You can despise every single thing about Trump and still recognize that the media has been ridiculously biased and unfair in reporting on him. They fucking hate him and can’t hide it. Even the goons at Fox.
It is not hard to see that from his point of view he has not had fair treatment and that the “system” is “rigged” against him.

The comments on patnet are an exhibit of the Dunning-Kruger effect.

What happened to the Trump is a master at manipulating the media narrative? Did he suddenly lose his Svengali powers over them?

Red Hats come out Facebook and Twitter goes Ghost town, and Gab informs everyone where to meet next.
We're going to organize like Hillary apparantly legally did for all of 2015 and 1016, it's our turn to be a Dick.
I don't think you kids will like it when we're the Dicks. You better hope Trump wins. Because Republicans are even better at being Dicks than Liberals. We don't do petty shit.

A left wing Marxist agenda... = Deflationary collapse

Terrible thesis because American demographics are going to be the best in modern world for a mature country of size

The extreme right have their hyperinflation non sense and the extreme left has probably the single worst economic theory I have ever seen in my life.

Only if we were all high school drop outs on substance abuse with a 77 million prime age future labor force growth tagged to it... could this happen

All I need is time to destroy the left wing in this country... the right wing got smashed in this cycle. it's time for the left to get a lesson on demographic economics

The best is you all time stamped your non sense here ....

Wrong country to bet against, we aren't a bunch of Anti American Trolls hiding behind fake names

The next recession will look more like 2000 than 2007

Don't say I didn't warn you all...

Hillary Clinton, 2002: How's this for an example of questioning the legitimacy of elections?

Newsweek: Hillary Clinton to Crowd at Fund-Raiser in Los Angeles: Bush Was 'Selected' President, Not Elected; Says Bush's Machine Has Raised Far More Money to 'Ruin the Reputations of Our Candidates'

Mother Jones on Ohio's Diebold electronic voting machines.
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2004/03/diebolds-political-machine

Elizabeth Warren thinks the whole process is rigged,salutes Jon Stewart for his efforts in raising awareness.

An Emmy Nominated Film for Journalism, "Hacking Democracy", produced by Viacom's HBO:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacking_Democracy

2012 Voter Purges in Florida:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/post/floridas-voter-purge-explained/2012/06/18/gJQAhvcNlV_blog.html

There's a whole Wikipedia page of 2004 Election Controversies:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_United_States_election_voting_controversies

Vox: Elections can't be rigged, except when white people do it. (Apparently Hillary is Black). Articles appear within 24 hours of each other.

This was 5 minutes of Google Searches, there's a whole lot more than this.

Thundercheck: Questioning the Voting Process is far from Unprecedented. Quite the opposite- so far in this 21st Century, it's a perennial issue

Verdict: Claim is Mostly False Media Hoax.

YesYNot All Pussy are Rigged says

once the election is certified, #LoserDonald will accept the results.

You mean he's gonna be a sell out just like Bernie? Asshole! He better be ready to have his pussy grabbed.

Remember folks, Hillary's aides were marking "CF" and "Friends of WJC" on State Department Applications for Projects for no reason whatsoever.

Certainly not to indicate they merited different treatment on those grounds. That's a Russian Lie! Except, these documents were released from State Itself, via the FBI.

Maybe Putin has infiltrated the FBI.

YesYNot All Pussy are Rigged says

#LoserDonald claiming that the whole election process is rigged is certainly unprecedented

Again, that's not the case. Many have declared the election process rigged.

What is the case is that No Major Candidate in US History has accused her opponent of being an outright Agent of a Foreign Power.

Even if she wins, she's caused serious diplomatic damage and thrown fire on an already volatile situation. It's absolutely irresponsible.

What's even more scary is the Clinton Total Control of the Democratic Party AND her advisors are supporting this dangerous, unhinged sort of talk.

It totally disqualifies her from the Presidency, and it shows we got off lucky when she was Secretary of State.

#TrollingDebtSuckers

Here we go, a thread for the debt owners to gush about their only-on-paper, never-to-be-realized profits. A chance to stick their heads more firmly in the sand, and forget for a moment about how fast that weight of debt around their necks will sink them when the economy implodes. Dive into the government sponsored charts, and forget about all the money and time you're losing with maintenance costs, all the cash you could have invested into something that would give you a realized return that wouldn't depend on some other poor sap paying half a million for your crapshacks in South Central, or some sucker paying $4,000 in rent for a 2/1 in the middle of the desert.

Now hold hands and jiz simultaneously on your home-debtor deeds piled on the table.