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Straw man is the wrong word. I can't even figure what it is you've constructed here.

There's no agenda, just observations and exchange of ideas.

You're posting all these charts, about where we've been. We're over here talking about where we're going

Why not take your charts, and plot out the future. How you expect them to behave over the next decade or two

OK Logan--

Let me try to open your mind. Can you consider the possibility that money has been flowing up to the top 0.1% for the last 30+ years as shown by the wealth disparity charts? And that this wealth concentration is what's causing interest rates to go lower and lower as there is more and more money sitting around looking for investments?

Once you understand that mechanism, then you can realize that at some point, the 0.1% will have bled the economy dry. The Federal Reserve is doing everything it can to keep that from happening, but at some point they may run out of grease and the shit will hit the fan. It won't be tomorrow, it may not be in 2 years, but we're on a path that leads to trouble.

And flag waving, chest bumping won't stop it.

Logan Mohtashami says

I am going to bury all of you left wing people on this site just as I did the right wing people the last few years

This must be good for your ratings?

errc says

Straw man

Straw Man

Straw Man

My thesis is simply

No Great Depression going to happen and in the next decade the America cycle will be fine...

TIME STAMP THIS Now

Your Great Depression II thesis in the next recession will never happen

All of you have to apologize to your readers for such a worthless economic theory

That's what I want your readers to know

How terrible you all are

Tampajoe says

realize that at some point, the 0.1% will have bled the economy dry.

clearly

U.S. consumption is at all time highs

155 Million plus working

Real wages are at all time highs

Net Asset worth is at all time highs

Highest Job openings int he history of the world

Amanda Perry Tatu or whatever you call yourself today

We are the baddest country on the planet and that's why you don't move your family away

Roberto was here and he wasn't playing the Pat.net game

He would agree that your Great Depression II thesis in the next few years is worthless

So basically your thesis is

No Great Depression going to happen and in the next decade the America cycle will be fine...

That's some great insight there, bub. Quite prescient

Logan Mohtashami says

He would agree that your Great Depression II thesis in the next few years is worthless

and beyond?

Just wait until after the elections, the DNC has some serious law suits it's going to bankrupt them.

The Democrats are trying not to beat the class action law suit. But their case will only strengthen our case.

foriegners that hate us can vote.

Isn't it obvious? The opponent of status quo is a clown. And Americans aren't quite ready to elect a clown.

Ironman says

so many are unhappy with the job their elected officials are doing??

Hurr, durr, uh, 'cuz Hillary ain't running for congress??

Ya see, Cletus, the presidency and Congress is, like, 2 different thangs!!

Some folks has noticed that the GOP controllin' Congress is a bunch of anti-science obstructionist religious fanatics!!??

Tha's why that there Obama has got hisself a 53 percent approval ratin', much higher 'n' them there congressional numbers!!

$60M marketing campaign, and 20 states with Walmart the #1 Employer.

Also the organizer is out to help the rank and file citizens.

He tells us that with smiles and high fives each day - so it must be true. Dont worry about the wars brewing, the 1% GDP, the vacuuming out of manufacturing and R&D.

Lies, Deception, Rhetoric are part of the coursework for crooked Lawyers, so it would appear.

Remember the Liberal Democrats God Alinsky's 13 commandments:

Heres a section from Alinskys book:

First Rule: Always remember the first rule of power tactics: Power is not only what you have but what the enemy thinks you have.

The second rule is: Never go outside the experience of your people. When an action is outside the experience of the people, the result is confusion, fear, and retreat.

The third rule is: Wherever possible go outside the experience of the enemy. Here you want to cause confusion, fear, and retreat.

The fourth rule is: Make the enemy live up to their own book of rules. You can kill them with this, for they can no more obey their own rules than the Christian church can live up to Christianity.

The fourth rule carries within it the fifth rule: Ridicule is man's most potent weapon. It is almost impossible to counterattack ridicule. Also it infuriates the opposition, who then react to your advantage.

The sixth rule is: A good tactic is one that your people enjoy. If your people are not having a ball doing it, there is something very wrong with the tactic.

The seventh rule: A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag. Man can sustain militant interest in any issue for only a limited time, after which it becomes a ritualistic commitment, like going to church on Sunday mornings.

The eighth rule: Keep the pressure on, with different tactics and actions, and utilize all events of the period for your purpose.

The ninth rule: The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself.

The tenth rule: The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition. It is this unceasing pressure that results in the reactions from the opposition that are essential for the success of the campaign.

The eleventh rule is: If you push a negative hard and deep enough it will break through into its counterside; this is based on the principle that every positive has its negative.

The twelfth rule: The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative. You cannot risk being trapped by the enemy in his sudden agreement with your demand and saying "You're right — we don't know what to do about this issue. Now you tell us."

The thirteenth rule: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.

These Rules for Radicals are devoid of morals, of real solutions. They can only destroy not manufacture any useful thing. These commandment are orders for anarchy and keeping people in poverty, and making everyone else impoverished as an end goal.

I really wish that people would quit obsessing over the polls.

Wasted energy & mental anguish needlessly expended.

Dumb ass R& D voters motto: "It's not my fault."
I just can't get it thru my thick skull.

Ironman says

when so many are unhappy with the job their elected officials are doing??

8e6e0 says

I really wish taht people would quit obsessing over the polls.

Wasted energy & mental anguish needlessly expended.

The polls are GOD. What will GOD decide tomorrow?

Entitlemented says

These Rules for Radicals are devoid of morals, of real solutions.

Looks as if Gingrich, Rudy, Eric Cantor, Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell all read that book twice.

There is only one explanation...
The polls about congressional job approval and the direction of the country are rigged!

No no - that is not it.
People want change, but only if it is in the right direction. They don't want a clown muppet to take the whole country on a trip to the shitter so that we can all experience his shame spiral.

No no - that is not it.
The oligarchs have rigged everything. They have rigged the polls and paid off the media to lie to us in a desperate attempt to fool us into electing their puppet and cover up the impending ballot fraud. Only the Wikileaks Albino, Alex Jones, and Breitbart speak the truth. We must watch the polls so that Trump will win in a landslide and save the country!

DieBankOfAmericaPhukkingDie - the anti-Trump Hillary Bot that ironically supports Hillary Clinton, yet apparently despises BankofAmerica, which along with other major banks, is essentially funding Hillary Clinton's campaign with tens of millions of dollars.

The #OrangeDoucheBag has Magic bone spurs. They only show up when there's a war and they go away when he needs to "Move on her like a bitch." Magic.

You'd have a blowhard who could at least play the piano.

Are you sure it's not the Russian Bear?

A bunch of old ladies pelting Trumpligula with their sopping wet panties like Liberace, would put Trumpligula into a "narcissistic-insult" catatonic state from which he would never emerge.

Et tu, Trumpligula?

This could flip the greenhouse gas moral highground hot potato issue over to the 'pubs...

www.youtube.com/embed/-qKqIoW9hXw

LOL!

She can't get over 1000 without star power.
She's co-opting Rock concerts to be Hillary Rallies. I think people will go see these stars, but tune Hildabeast out when she drones on about the vote.

People like Bill Maher are just as scary as people on the far right that he is talking about that don't see how flawed Trump is. I can understand a person making a choice on a lesser evil but anybody that truly likes either of these choices is crazy and living in their own reality.

This thing just won't quit! It's been the top performer of my portfolio.

@Patrick, still holding?

Yup, still have it!

I usually buy and forget for a year, then re-evaluate.

rpanic01 says

People like Bill Maher are just as scary as people on the far right that he is talking about that don't see how flawed Trump is.

Baseless accusations are transparent attempts at poisoning the well. One could make the baseless statement "People like whomever are scary extremists" about any person. Making such a statement does not make it true. You need to back that shit up with some evidence that a person is proposing crazy and dangerous ideas. You can't do that against Bill Maher because, regardless of how much you dislike the things he values (liberty, truth before politics, equality of opportunity, accountability), he backs up his ideas with actual evidence and reasoning. So by definition, that's not crazy talk.

I would have to say there is no greater authority on vulgar and tacky than Bill Maher.

You can't argue with someone who makes their living with it.

Ceffer says

I would have to say there is no greater authority on vulgar and tacky than Bill Maher.

Another example of a poisoning the well fallacy. Only fools fall for this. How foolish do you think the PatNet audience is?

Trumpligula practices his slobbering Grannie kisses in the mirror that he will shower on Putin after he wins the election.

Ceffer says

Et tu, Trumpligula?

Good one.

Ceffer says

Now imagine if her opponent was someone who
- tortured people
- killed innocent people
- labeled African Americans as "super predators"
- slut shames a child rape victim
- sold out the middle class
- supported a massive domestic spying program that is entirely illegal
- obstructed justice multiple times including in investigations of herself

Shit, that drag queen looks great in contrast.

They are both turd sandwiches. Vote Jill Stein. She meets your criteria of having a cliterous, and she meets my criteria of having ethics, a brain, and compassion.