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76110   _   2016 Oct 27, 8:25am  

errc says

Straw man

Straw Man

Straw Man

My thesis is simply

No Great Depression going to happen and in the next decade the America cycle will be fine...

TIME STAMP THIS Now

Your Great Depression II thesis in the next recession will never happen

All of you have to apologize to your readers for such a worthless economic theory

That's what I want your readers to know

How terrible you all are

76111   _   2016 Oct 27, 8:28am  

Tampajoe says

realize that at some point, the 0.1% will have bled the economy dry.

clearly

U.S. consumption is at all time highs

155 Million plus working

Real wages are at all time highs

Net Asset worth is at all time highs

Highest Job openings int he history of the world

Amanda Perry Tatu or whatever you call yourself today

We are the baddest country on the planet and that's why you don't move your family away

76112   _   2016 Oct 27, 8:29am  

Roberto was here and he wasn't playing the Pat.net game

He would agree that your Great Depression II thesis in the next few years is worthless

76113   anonymous   2016 Oct 27, 8:30am  

So basically your thesis is

No Great Depression going to happen and in the next decade the America cycle will be fine...

That's some great insight there, bub. Quite prescient

76114   indigenous   2016 Oct 27, 8:31am  

Logan Mohtashami says

He would agree that your Great Depression II thesis in the next few years is worthless

and beyond?

76115   Tenpoundbass   2016 Oct 27, 9:13am  

Just wait until after the elections, the DNC has some serious law suits it's going to bankrupt them.

The Democrats are trying not to beat the class action law suit. But their case will only strengthen our case.

76116   Tenpoundbass   2016 Oct 27, 9:53am  

foriegners that hate us can vote.

76117   Tampajoe   2016 Oct 27, 10:05am  

Isn't it obvious? The opponent of status quo is a clown. And Americans aren't quite ready to elect a clown.

76118   HydroCabron   2016 Oct 27, 10:28am  

Ironman says

so many are unhappy with the job their elected officials are doing??

Hurr, durr, uh, 'cuz Hillary ain't running for congress??

Ya see, Cletus, the presidency and Congress is, like, 2 different thangs!!

Some folks has noticed that the GOP controllin' Congress is a bunch of anti-science obstructionist religious fanatics!!??

Tha's why that there Obama has got hisself a 53 percent approval ratin', much higher 'n' them there congressional numbers!!

76119   Entitlemented   2016 Oct 27, 10:33am  

$60M marketing campaign, and 20 states with Walmart the #1 Employer.

76120   Entitlemented   2016 Oct 27, 10:40am  

Also the organizer is out to help the rank and file citizens.

He tells us that with smiles and high fives each day - so it must be true. Dont worry about the wars brewing, the 1% GDP, the vacuuming out of manufacturing and R&D.

Lies, Deception, Rhetoric are part of the coursework for crooked Lawyers, so it would appear.

Remember the Liberal Democrats God Alinsky's 13 commandments:

Heres a section from Alinskys book:

First Rule: Always remember the first rule of power tactics: Power is not only what you have but what the enemy thinks you have.

The second rule is: Never go outside the experience of your people. When an action is outside the experience of the people, the result is confusion, fear, and retreat.

The third rule is: Wherever possible go outside the experience of the enemy. Here you want to cause confusion, fear, and retreat.

The fourth rule is: Make the enemy live up to their own book of rules. You can kill them with this, for they can no more obey their own rules than the Christian church can live up to Christianity.

The fourth rule carries within it the fifth rule: Ridicule is man's most potent weapon. It is almost impossible to counterattack ridicule. Also it infuriates the opposition, who then react to your advantage.

The sixth rule is: A good tactic is one that your people enjoy. If your people are not having a ball doing it, there is something very wrong with the tactic.

The seventh rule: A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag. Man can sustain militant interest in any issue for only a limited time, after which it becomes a ritualistic commitment, like going to church on Sunday mornings.

The eighth rule: Keep the pressure on, with different tactics and actions, and utilize all events of the period for your purpose.

The ninth rule: The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself.

The tenth rule: The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition. It is this unceasing pressure that results in the reactions from the opposition that are essential for the success of the campaign.

The eleventh rule is: If you push a negative hard and deep enough it will break through into its counterside; this is based on the principle that every positive has its negative.

The twelfth rule: The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative. You cannot risk being trapped by the enemy in his sudden agreement with your demand and saying "You're right — we don't know what to do about this issue. Now you tell us."

The thirteenth rule: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.

These Rules for Radicals are devoid of morals, of real solutions. They can only destroy not manufacture any useful thing. These commandment are orders for anarchy and keeping people in poverty, and making everyone else impoverished as an end goal.

76121   8e6e0   2016 Oct 27, 10:43am  

I really wish that people would quit obsessing over the polls.

Wasted energy & mental anguish needlessly expended.

76122   HEY YOU   2016 Oct 27, 10:48am  

Dumb ass R& D voters motto: "It's not my fault."
I just can't get it thru my thick skull.

Ironman says

when so many are unhappy with the job their elected officials are doing??

8e6e0 says

I really wish taht people would quit obsessing over the polls.

Wasted energy & mental anguish needlessly expended.

The polls are GOD. What will GOD decide tomorrow?

76123   HydroCabron   2016 Oct 27, 11:01am  

Entitlemented says

These Rules for Radicals are devoid of morals, of real solutions.

Looks as if Gingrich, Rudy, Eric Cantor, Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell all read that book twice.

76124   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2016 Oct 27, 12:20pm  

There is only one explanation...
The polls about congressional job approval and the direction of the country are rigged!

No no - that is not it.
People want change, but only if it is in the right direction. They don't want a clown muppet to take the whole country on a trip to the shitter so that we can all experience his shame spiral.

No no - that is not it.
The oligarchs have rigged everything. They have rigged the polls and paid off the media to lie to us in a desperate attempt to fool us into electing their puppet and cover up the impending ballot fraud. Only the Wikileaks Albino, Alex Jones, and Breitbart speak the truth. We must watch the polls so that Trump will win in a landslide and save the country!

76127   freespeechforever   2016 Oct 27, 9:52pm  

DieBankOfAmericaPhukkingDie - the anti-Trump Hillary Bot that ironically supports Hillary Clinton, yet apparently despises BankofAmerica, which along with other major banks, is essentially funding Hillary Clinton's campaign with tens of millions of dollars.

76128   neplusultra57   2016 Oct 27, 10:02pm  

The #OrangeDoucheBag has Magic bone spurs. They only show up when there's a war and they go away when he needs to "Move on her like a bitch." Magic.

76129   Ceffer   2016 Oct 27, 11:09pm  

You'd have a blowhard who could at least play the piano.

76130   Ceffer   2016 Oct 27, 11:38pm  

Are you sure it's not the Russian Bear?

76131   Ceffer   2016 Oct 27, 11:46pm  

A bunch of old ladies pelting Trumpligula with their sopping wet panties like Liberace, would put Trumpligula into a "narcissistic-insult" catatonic state from which he would never emerge.

76132   Ceffer   2016 Oct 28, 12:46am  

Et tu, Trumpligula?

76133   Y   2016 Oct 28, 5:51am  

This could flip the greenhouse gas moral highground hot potato issue over to the 'pubs...

76136   joshuatrio   2016 Oct 28, 6:25am  

LOL!

76137   Tenpoundbass   2016 Oct 28, 6:58am  

She can't get over 1000 without star power.
She's co-opting Rock concerts to be Hillary Rallies. I think people will go see these stars, but tune Hildabeast out when she drones on about the vote.

76138   RC2006   2016 Oct 28, 9:47am  

People like Bill Maher are just as scary as people on the far right that he is talking about that don't see how flawed Trump is. I can understand a person making a choice on a lesser evil but anybody that truly likes either of these choices is crazy and living in their own reality.

76139   BayArea   2016 Oct 28, 9:55am  

This thing just won't quit! It's been the top performer of my portfolio.

@Patrick, still holding?

76140   Patrick   2016 Oct 28, 10:09am  

Yup, still have it!

I usually buy and forget for a year, then re-evaluate.

76141   Dan8267   2016 Oct 28, 10:10am  

rpanic01 says

People like Bill Maher are just as scary as people on the far right that he is talking about that don't see how flawed Trump is.

Baseless accusations are transparent attempts at poisoning the well. One could make the baseless statement "People like whomever are scary extremists" about any person. Making such a statement does not make it true. You need to back that shit up with some evidence that a person is proposing crazy and dangerous ideas. You can't do that against Bill Maher because, regardless of how much you dislike the things he values (liberty, truth before politics, equality of opportunity, accountability), he backs up his ideas with actual evidence and reasoning. So by definition, that's not crazy talk.

76142   Ceffer   2016 Oct 28, 10:26am  

I would have to say there is no greater authority on vulgar and tacky than Bill Maher.

You can't argue with someone who makes their living with it.

76143   Dan8267   2016 Oct 28, 10:31am  

Ceffer says

I would have to say there is no greater authority on vulgar and tacky than Bill Maher.

Another example of a poisoning the well fallacy. Only fools fall for this. How foolish do you think the PatNet audience is?

76144   Ceffer   2016 Oct 28, 10:36am  

Trumpligula practices his slobbering Grannie kisses in the mirror that he will shower on Putin after he wins the election.

76145   marcus   2016 Oct 28, 10:49am  

Ceffer says

Et tu, Trumpligula?

Good one.

76146   Dan8267   2016 Oct 28, 10:52am  

Ceffer says

Now imagine if her opponent was someone who
- tortured people
- killed innocent people
- labeled African Americans as "super predators"
- slut shames a child rape victim
- sold out the middle class
- supported a massive domestic spying program that is entirely illegal
- obstructed justice multiple times including in investigations of herself

Shit, that drag queen looks great in contrast.

They are both turd sandwiches. Vote Jill Stein. She meets your criteria of having a cliterous, and she meets my criteria of having ethics, a brain, and compassion.

76147   RC2006   2016 Oct 28, 12:00pm  

Dan8267 says

Bill Maher because, regardless of how much you dislike the things he values (liberty, truth before politics, equality of opportunity, accountability),

If that was true he wouldn't be ignoring everything about Hillary he should be horrified by our choice, but he isn't. Nobody should be giving anyone a pass, the well is poisoned

76148   Ceffer   2016 Oct 28, 12:43pm  

Dan8267 says

Another example of a poisoning the well fallacy. Only fools fall for this. How foolish do you think the PatNet audience is?

Heh, Heh!

Why bother poisoning a well that's already poisoned?

76149   Dan8267   2016 Oct 28, 12:48pm  

rpanic01 says

If that was true he wouldn't be ignoring everything about Hillary he should be horrified by our choice, but he isn't. Nobody should be giving anyone a pass, the well is poisoned

Translation: Maher thinks that Hillary is the lesser of the two evils. I think that Trump is the lesser of the two evils. Therefore Maher is evil.

Stupid logic.

Bill Maher strongly preferred Sanders over Hillary. He hardly has given her a pass. Even though I think that a Trump presidency would be the lesser of the two evils in the long run, I don't make bullshit straw man arguments against those who think Hillary's the lesser evil.

Bill Maher would also strongly support Jill Stein as president, but knows she can't get elected as a third party candidate under America's stupid electoral laws.

Put simply, you are trying to make an ad hominem attack against a person simply because that person isn't in 100% agreement with you. This is lame. You should attack the arguments of your opponents. You are not doing that. And that is why you are lame.

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