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76132   Ceffer   2016 Oct 28, 12:46am  

Et tu, Trumpligula?

76133   Y   2016 Oct 28, 5:51am  

This could flip the greenhouse gas moral highground hot potato issue over to the 'pubs...

76136   joshuatrio   2016 Oct 28, 6:25am  

LOL!

76137   Tenpoundbass   2016 Oct 28, 6:58am  

She can't get over 1000 without star power.
She's co-opting Rock concerts to be Hillary Rallies. I think people will go see these stars, but tune Hildabeast out when she drones on about the vote.

76138   RC2006   2016 Oct 28, 9:47am  

People like Bill Maher are just as scary as people on the far right that he is talking about that don't see how flawed Trump is. I can understand a person making a choice on a lesser evil but anybody that truly likes either of these choices is crazy and living in their own reality.

76139   BayArea   2016 Oct 28, 9:55am  

This thing just won't quit! It's been the top performer of my portfolio.

@Patrick, still holding?

76140   Patrick   2016 Oct 28, 10:09am  

Yup, still have it!

I usually buy and forget for a year, then re-evaluate.

76141   Dan8267   2016 Oct 28, 10:10am  

rpanic01 says

People like Bill Maher are just as scary as people on the far right that he is talking about that don't see how flawed Trump is.

Baseless accusations are transparent attempts at poisoning the well. One could make the baseless statement "People like whomever are scary extremists" about any person. Making such a statement does not make it true. You need to back that shit up with some evidence that a person is proposing crazy and dangerous ideas. You can't do that against Bill Maher because, regardless of how much you dislike the things he values (liberty, truth before politics, equality of opportunity, accountability), he backs up his ideas with actual evidence and reasoning. So by definition, that's not crazy talk.

76142   Ceffer   2016 Oct 28, 10:26am  

I would have to say there is no greater authority on vulgar and tacky than Bill Maher.

You can't argue with someone who makes their living with it.

76143   Dan8267   2016 Oct 28, 10:31am  

Ceffer says

I would have to say there is no greater authority on vulgar and tacky than Bill Maher.

Another example of a poisoning the well fallacy. Only fools fall for this. How foolish do you think the PatNet audience is?

76144   Ceffer   2016 Oct 28, 10:36am  

Trumpligula practices his slobbering Grannie kisses in the mirror that he will shower on Putin after he wins the election.

76145   marcus   2016 Oct 28, 10:49am  

Ceffer says

Et tu, Trumpligula?

Good one.

76146   Dan8267   2016 Oct 28, 10:52am  

Ceffer says

Now imagine if her opponent was someone who
- tortured people
- killed innocent people
- labeled African Americans as "super predators"
- slut shames a child rape victim
- sold out the middle class
- supported a massive domestic spying program that is entirely illegal
- obstructed justice multiple times including in investigations of herself

Shit, that drag queen looks great in contrast.

They are both turd sandwiches. Vote Jill Stein. She meets your criteria of having a cliterous, and she meets my criteria of having ethics, a brain, and compassion.

76147   RC2006   2016 Oct 28, 12:00pm  

Dan8267 says

Bill Maher because, regardless of how much you dislike the things he values (liberty, truth before politics, equality of opportunity, accountability),

If that was true he wouldn't be ignoring everything about Hillary he should be horrified by our choice, but he isn't. Nobody should be giving anyone a pass, the well is poisoned

76148   Ceffer   2016 Oct 28, 12:43pm  

Dan8267 says

Another example of a poisoning the well fallacy. Only fools fall for this. How foolish do you think the PatNet audience is?

Heh, Heh!

Why bother poisoning a well that's already poisoned?

76149   Dan8267   2016 Oct 28, 12:48pm  

rpanic01 says

If that was true he wouldn't be ignoring everything about Hillary he should be horrified by our choice, but he isn't. Nobody should be giving anyone a pass, the well is poisoned

Translation: Maher thinks that Hillary is the lesser of the two evils. I think that Trump is the lesser of the two evils. Therefore Maher is evil.

Stupid logic.

Bill Maher strongly preferred Sanders over Hillary. He hardly has given her a pass. Even though I think that a Trump presidency would be the lesser of the two evils in the long run, I don't make bullshit straw man arguments against those who think Hillary's the lesser evil.

Bill Maher would also strongly support Jill Stein as president, but knows she can't get elected as a third party candidate under America's stupid electoral laws.

Put simply, you are trying to make an ad hominem attack against a person simply because that person isn't in 100% agreement with you. This is lame. You should attack the arguments of your opponents. You are not doing that. And that is why you are lame.

76150   anonymous   2016 Oct 28, 12:51pm  

Tampajoe says

OK Logan--

Let me try to open your mind. Can you consider the possibility that money has been flowing up to the top 0.1% for the last 30+ years as shown by the wealth disparity charts? And that this wealth concentration is what's causing interest rates to go lower and lower as there is more and more money sitting around looking for investments?

Logan, what's your response to this?

76151   _   2016 Oct 28, 12:55pm  

SubOink says

Can you consider the possibility that money has been flowing up to the top 0.1

Middle Class shrunk because more people are making 100K

and homeowners and the U.S. has more net wealth excluding Debt both federal and household than all the GDP of the counties together tied and then some

What....

0.01% have a lot $$$ they hoard and middle is strong, educated class are kicking ass

Our women kicks ass

This will never fit into the liberal left wing who have cried about America since 1790

I will bring 100,000 boxes of tissues for all your tears

All the liberals on this site, if your lives was half as bad as you cry about you all would have left to Nordic countries years ago

76152   mell   2016 Oct 28, 12:56pm  

rpanic01 says

Dan8267 says

Bill Maher because, regardless of how much you dislike the things he values (liberty, truth before politics, equality of opportunity, accountability),

If that was true he wouldn't be ignoring everything about Hillary he should be horrified by our choice, but he isn't. Nobody should be giving anyone a pass, the well is poisoned

You are correct on this, but Maher is simply a frightened cuck at this point since the regressive leftist hyenas and SJWs almost axed him after he made politically incorrect statements about islam. They came for his head and almost got him but he was able to wind out of the stranglehold and is treading lightly while parroting the leftists dystopian narrative ever since. He may get a few brownie points for this but it won't save him from the pack next time he slips up.

76153   _   2016 Oct 28, 12:56pm  

Maybe that is where you should be

Maybe this country is too hard..

I get it...

76154   _   2016 Oct 28, 12:58pm  

Peddling Fiction

76155   Dan8267   2016 Oct 28, 1:00pm  

You're opinion is clearly not biased in any way or based on hysterical emotional reaction.

76156   Tampajoe   2016 Oct 28, 1:04pm  

Logan-

Nice that you use household income to hide the fact that it is now taking two earners to make slightly more than what 1 earner used to make. Why don't you index that household income to hours worked to remove the effect of women working at a much higher rate now vs. 1970? Or make an adjustment for the child care costs that households now have to pay vs. 1970 when they didn't?

What are households going to do now? There isn't anyone left to get a job and boost income unless we legalize polygamy.

76157   _   2016 Oct 28, 1:06pm  

Tampajoe says

now taking two earners to make slightly

76158   Tampajoe   2016 Oct 28, 1:06pm  

And fyi--please point to 1 post where I've said my life was bad.

Stop with the nonsense. It just shows you cannot engage in an adult discussion, but must resort to childlike insults.

And right on cue--Logan posts Ironman's favorite picture. Very mature.

76159   _   2016 Oct 28, 1:07pm  

Peddling Fiction TATU

76160   Tampajoe   2016 Oct 28, 1:08pm  

So let's discuss it then.

What is wrong with my analysis? Are there not more two income families in 2016 vs. 1970? Does that not skew the household income data?

76161   Tampajoe   2016 Oct 28, 1:12pm  

How am I assuming that high school drop outs are primary wage earners?

Let's stick to my questions above. Is it true that there are more 2 income households now vs. 1970? Wouldn't that skew the household income data?

Edit--And by the way, I'm not complaining at all.

76162   _   2016 Oct 28, 1:12pm  

Peddling fiction

From people who would never attached their real names and faces to them

keep on peddling fiction

radical left and radical right are only different in their lack of capacity to understand non ideological economics

76163   Tampajoe   2016 Oct 28, 1:13pm  

So, I take it that you don't want to have an adult discussion then?

76164   _   2016 Oct 28, 1:14pm  

Tampajoe says

Let's stick to my questions above. Is it true that there are more 2 income households now vs. 1970? Wouldn't that skew the household income data?

76165   Tampajoe   2016 Oct 28, 1:18pm  

Pro-tip: It helps if you actually put some explanation of the graphs so people know what you think they're showing.

The first one is easily explained because it is a total and includes the 0.1%. So, of course it is going up. The problem is the distribution of income--not the total income.

The second graph I've already explained above. More 2 income households.

Not sure what you think the third graph means w.r.t our discussion.

76166   _   2016 Oct 28, 1:26pm  

This country doesn't beg... this country works, you have 1 problem group more than others...

Focus on that because the middle is strong ....

76167   Tampajoe   2016 Oct 28, 1:29pm  

That's a lot of blabber that doesn't address any of my points. Are you capable of actually having a discussion?

76168   _   2016 Oct 28, 1:31pm  

Tampajoe says

That's a lot of blabber that doesn't address any of my points. Are you capable of actually having a discussion?

Put your real name first and a picture

All of you....

I dare you I double dare you to not hide behind those fakes names and cute Duck photos and Avenger pictures

76169   _   2016 Oct 28, 1:33pm  

Because none of you would ever say the things you say with your real names and pictures on here

Because it's $#)(_)#_($_)(

The age of Anti American Troll is coming to an end... and the rise of data miners will crush what is left of the radical left and right wing

This country will kick ass and our young will kick ass

All these old people crying all the time on the internet with fake photos and fake names...

Whisper in the wind... this country will be #1 always

76170   _   2016 Oct 28, 1:36pm  

End this thread until the next recession/recovery cycle ....

You lost this one.... you have many years to adjust your take on this country now

76171   Tampajoe   2016 Oct 28, 1:41pm  

I think anyone that reads any of your threads is the ultimate loser.

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