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It is obviously a common political strategy used by both sides to keep the other exhausted disproving negatives or endless baseless allegations.

It's the ole' throw mud and see what sticks.

Given the context of this election, the Wiki stuff does not meet any reasonable standard of credibility. It is really in the eye of the believer or the scandal monger. It may be fun, but it's not credible proof.

Ceffer says

Given the context of this election, the Wiki stuff does not meet any reasonable standard of credibility. It is really in the eye of the believer or the scandal monger. It may be fun, but it's not credible proof.

Reverse burden of proof. It's the person asserting there is fakery, who has the burden of proving fakery.

Thunderlips Russian Agent 0069 says

Reverse burden of proof. It's the person asserting the fakery who needs to prove any faking happened in the first place.

Exactly. Reverse burden of proof means they have no burden or obligation at all to address it in any way. If you have to resort to reversing the burden of proof, you have admitted that you have not fulfilled YOUR burden of proof and you are merely riding on an uncomfirmed and unproven allegation.

Nobody even said they asserted fakery, they said that "some" were true, but they weren't going to waste their time sifting through the mess to compare note by note.

Even if they asserted fakery, there is no obligation on their part to prove or disprove it one way or the other.

You are dismissing the 100% unblemished track record of an organization that has released millions of documents of countless organizations and individuals, and not one has successfully proven a fake document.

The Podesta emails alone involve a vast multitude of correspondents using different devices over the course of almost a decade. (2008)

Right down to dinner date arrangements, griping emails from associates, family members, etc. etc.

To assert that some or all of the emails are faked would be an operation on par with the Manhattan Project, an extraordinary claim.
Extraordinary Claims require extraordinary evidence, not just non-supported dodgy assertions about "Alterations".

The far simpler and economical explanation is that they are real.

If they're lazy or cheap, they can name some of the emails - which many DNC Staffers and HRC Campaigners have written themselves and let their surrogates/crowd sourcing show it to be so. Certainly at least they can name a few of the "altered" emails (or show the originals in their possession for contrast).

Thunderlips Russian Agent 0069 says

You are dismissing the 100% unblemished track record of an organization that has released millions of documents of countless organizations and individuals, and not one has successfully proven a fake document.

Sorry, I am not that gullible. You might at least put the figure at 95 percent or so, which would at least resemble a statistical standard. Of course, you would then have to identify the 5 percent which wasn't true. Really, one guy in an embassy and a bunch of anarchic hackers are going to tell the truth 100 percent of the time?

* clinton squeaks by in election
* in 4 weeks gets indicted and impeached, later jailed
* little rabid grasshopper virginia fuckface takes over and pardons her, but no job left for her
* congress stalls SCJ nomination for 4 years under pretense little rabid grasshopper virginia fuckface not elected to nominate SCJ's
* Clinton foundation torn down over the course of 2017, more special investigators installed to clean up the mess

As I said before, if it takes them weeks to find out which ones are duplicates, they are not doing it right.

You forget government runs on 386's...

YesYNot says

As I said before, if it takes them weeks to find out which ones are duplicates, they are not doing it right.

Sounds like a good choice - I'm up for it.

Everyone should just be called "Sir" and those in disagreement can protest by proving they are not "Sirs" by dropping their knickers.

Ya gotta like Mark Dice, fuck Maddow.

Hehehe "Inflammatory and Content Free"

If it's content-free, what is there to be upset about?

BEST ELECTION EVA.

DieBankOfAmericaPhukkingDie says

We're read the stories about non-gender specific and trans-friendly pronouns whatever the fuck that means and have decided to release the UNIVERSAL PRONOUN "FUCKFACE!" into the public domain.

It won't work. People who prefer to be fucked in the ass, like CIC around goats, will be triggered and insist on being called FUCKASS in all caps.

I blame all this on the Realtors as well as NAR.

Ironman says

FBI FOUND 650,000 EMAILS ON LAPTOP

650,000

650,000 fuckin' emails. It's a spam folder the likes which God has not seen, Mu'adib.

Ironman says

Why don't you volunteer to help them,

Because I'm not a computer. If they don't have a computer program to compare an email against other emails in their database, they are fucking idiots.

Speaking of idiots... I mentioned that they didn't have a warrant yesterday, and the hillary haters club all said of course they have a warrant. https://patrick.net/?p=1298002&c=1340017#comment-1340017 Do you think any of them will admit that they were wrong, or will they take the Trump route and deny deny deny?

At least she had the guts to criticize Israel over the attacks on the Palestinians. Nobody else that was connected bothered to do that.

And while I am at it, I have nothing against Lesbians personally. Die, you are kind of a bigot aren't you?

Coolest Scooby Doo ending ever!

Classic "the buck stops here!" stuff

Bernie was the inevitable reaction from the left. Same impetus, different angle.

Whatever happens in the election, Hillary is the end of the democratic party in the same way Bush jr was the end of the republican party. PC culture and SJW's have been exposed for the evil they are. Brexit showed the world that globalism can be stopped.

Minus the whole Satin II missile aimed at Chelsea's condo in Manhattan, times are looking up.

Comey hurt the feelings of lesbians and IHLs everywhere, which just goes to show that men are beasts.

Just shows what kind of people vote for her, the perverts and mentally ill with sexual issues.

YesYNot says

The 30K work-related emails was not the senior moment. The 3 emails that contained a small amount of classified information were senior moments. The ones that were marked classified were not marked correctly. That doesn't make it OK, but backs up the senior moment claim.

With over 30K emails erased that were deemed "personal" by Hillary, how many of those do you think were truly classified emails? Once again, why go against the subpoena and erase over 30K emails if they didn't contain anything to worry about? If she didn't want any personal emails exposed, she shouldn't have co-mingled work and personal on a private server.

FortWayne says

Just shows what kind of people vote for her, the perverts and mentally ill with sexual issues.

At least they aren't the deplorables who couldn't see a racist when he smacks them in the face with it. You should read up on Murray Rothbard, anarcho capitalist Libertarian. He was a total racist. And Trump says many things Rothbard says.

DieBankOfAmericaPhukkingDie says

just like the twisted libby she is!

You are an idiot sometimes. You have strong women fears like Donald Trump has?

rando says

The demand that you restrict your speech to 31 random made-up pronouns or face employment or legal consequences is actually closely related to the wholesale export of manufacturing to China

Wtf ? The social justice warrior gender nonsense is self correcting. 70% of the people I talk to on a regular basis are "liberals." And at most, one of them buys into that bullshit (and he is someone that I dislike). The fact that there are some students and some professors at universities that are on the lower end of any measurable intelligence distribution, or that have some strange issues, doesn't mean that all universities are somehow fucked up.

Why is it that right wingers do this ? THat is look at extreme rare cases and generalize ? I guess maybe they look at the phenomenon of gay marriage, and think that if that can become mainstream, so can anything. I've got news for you. It can't, and it doesn't take a Trump movement to stop SJWs. The internet is and has done a pretty good job of shaming them when they get ridiculous. And meanwhile there should be such a thing as a legitimate and justifiable social justice cause. Police shooting too many people and not being accountable enough is one good example. (causing many police forces to adopt body camera policies, which is a great idea). Sometimes even whacky activists make a positive difference.

You're not going to turn back the clock on homosexuality and put it back in the closet. But the Kaitlin Jenners of the world will always be a small minority.

As for that pronoun nonsense ? Give me a fucking break.

CBOEtrader says

Whatever happens in the election, Hillary is the end of the democratic party in the same way Bush jr was the end of the republican party.

I think there will always be "an establishment." I wish that Hillary represented the republican establishment, and that we actually had a left, and that what is currently a big part of the republican party (i.e. alt right, right wing radio audiences etc.) would quickly go to the ashbin of history.

White fear of change in monochrome parts of the country is going to continue, but soon they will be enough of a minority that they will need to team up with some other groups to remain relevant, and it's hard to see what that will look like. But I don't see how they can remain the face of the republican party, unless they go back to dog whistles and a little bit of subtlety. So republicans might regress to what they were. The party of business and the rich, somehow tied to the alt right and tea party so that they can win elections.(by the way - this is fairly close to who Trump really is - the latter groups, Patrick and others are getting conned).

The most interesting outcome might be more political parties. But the establishment doesn't want that. Too high a risk of becoming more socialist.

Daddy says vlad gave mom copies of michelles speeches to plagerize soos the family would look 'telligent.

You think they can release 650,000 emails when many of them are classified (and, they'll have to figure out which ones are totally unrelated, which are revelant, and which are outright classified) in mere days?

Maybe - god forbid - Huma or Hillary come out and have a real, more than 5 minute press conference, with actual Q&A.

Thunderlips Russian Agent 0069 says

650,000 fuckin' emails

Trump says that's why they can't get nothign done they sit around and email all day.

Booger says

www.youtube.com/embed/C9CqwMPfsms

Any of you notice that the text says "PUTIN" exactly when Hitler is saying "Stalin"? Pretty good one.

just any guy says

Was Weiner cleared to possess this kind of information?

No. But Carlos Danger was.

Daddy says rachael needs a haircut.
Bad.

Gary Anderson says

You should read up on Murray Rothbard, anarcho capitalist Libertarian. He was a total racist.

Bullshit, show me the quote.

Conjecture is unacceptable.

She looks like trump with an orange face and white around her eyes?

DieBankOfAmericaPhukkingDie says

Could Weiner been having obscene video chats with IHLlary

maybe Bill Clinton was sending dick pics to Huma?

Gary Anderson says

At least they aren't the deplorables who couldn't see a racist when he smacks them in the face with it. You should read up on Murray Rothbard, anarcho capitalist Libertarian. He was a total racist. And Trump says many things Rothbard says.

Liberals are the racist. They hate white people, specifically white men, they blame white people for everything (never themselves). Wake up Gary. Everything left espouses radiates hatred toward whites. The typical left wing divide and conquer communist shit.

turtledove says

Seems like s strange interpretation of the law that doesn't pass the common sense test. People get arrested for incidental findings all the time. If you had to have a warrant listing exactly everything you're looking for, how would anything ever be admissible? Police aren't psychic.

Maybe you need to look at something called the fourth amendment. All that probable cause and unreasonable search and seizure thing. It passed the common sense test for the people that wrote the constitution. With good reason. Police and the FBI can't use a warrant as a fishing expedition. The incidental findings of another crime not related to the original warrant have to be both in plain sight and clear evidence of a crime. A cache of unknown content abedin emails found while investigating wiener for sexting doesn't qualify. They are going to have to make a probable cause case for a warrant then they can find out what is contained in the emails and IF it is relevant to clinton at all.

Seems awful strange that the head of the FBI didn't wait a couple days for a preliminary review of the emails to see if there is any relevance at all. Saying they appear to be relevant without knowing the content at all is very odd.

bob2356 says

Seems awful strange that the head of the FBI didn't wait a couple days for a preliminary review of the emails to see if there is any relevance at all. Saying they appear to be relevant without knowing the content at all is very odd.

Yes, he may have pretty much cheated the system. Now a warrant has been issued, becasue of the election, and becasue of the unfairness of such vague statements right before an election. Now they need to look at the emails as quickly as possible, and I think huge pressure will be on Comey to explain exactly what the hell he was talking about.

That puts him in a very awkward situation, becasue they shouldn't have been reading Abedin's emails without a warrant.

The justice department can start to look at the 100K emails of Abedin that were on the laptop, but they need Comey to either say exactly what he was talking about, or to give another statement saying they've got nothing. Shit or get off the pot Comey. And then resign in disgrace.