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76847   MisdemeanorRebel   2016 Nov 9, 6:30pm  

indigenous says

Lips is economically illiterate

I love you man.

indigenous says

Comparative advantage and trade are the very thing that creates the economy. It is literally the oldest practice in the world.

For most of human history, intergroup trade (and intragroup trade for that matter) was a fly on an elephant's ass. The first trades when civilization existed were between governments.

76848   MisdemeanorRebel   2016 Nov 9, 6:36pm  

Hillary had majority of primary Superdelegates, pretty sad for her people to whinge about Electoral College.

They should can that system first. It failed to nominate the better candidate.

76849   turtledove   2016 Nov 9, 6:41pm  

Not having a true representative democracy will eventually give someone a legitimate argument for violent revolt.
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And not allowing a voice outside of certain major cities would lead to secession. We'd become regionalized... and eventually look more like Europe. Unless, of course, everything's held together by force. It's sad that you have so little appreciation for the genius behind our system.

76850   HEY YOU   2016 Nov 9, 6:46pm  

Strategist says

massive infrastructure spending.

"Show me the money!"
Trick Question: From where does the money suddenly appear?
Maybe other programs?
T.Q #2 From where does the money in other programs suddenly appear?

76851   Strategist   2016 Nov 9, 6:59pm  

HEY YOU says

Strategist says

massive infrastructure spending.

"Show me the money!"

Trick Question: From where does the money suddenly appear?

Maybe other programs?

T.Q #2 From where does the money in other programs suddenly appear?

Borrowing.

76852   indigenous   2016 Nov 9, 7:02pm  

Thunderlips Licks Shill Tears says

For most of human history, intergroup trade (and intragroup trade for that matter) was a fly on an elephant's ass. The first trades when civilization existed were between governments.

And so was economics but still older than prostitution.

76853   Strategist   2016 Nov 9, 7:35pm  

Ironman says

5 Shot, 2 LIfe-Threatening Injuries During Anti-Trump Protest In Seattle.

Hey, move to Canada, assholes.

76854   turtledove   2016 Nov 9, 8:08pm  

What aspect of a city lends itself to a person's identity?
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Seriously? C'mon. You know the answer to that question. That's just silly. What is the identity of San Francisco? What's the identity of Seattle? What comes to mind when you think of Mobile? You are being disingenuous, here. I know you already know this.

As for the weight of votes... It's not like it isn't linked to population. CA electoral votes are not equal to Nebraska. But by allowing each state a voice, it means that CA cannot go off the rails. If CA wants to have a say (as a primarily Democratic population) it must coordinate with other states. It's a system that demands collaboration among the different states. I think you underestimate how much this aspect of the Republic is what makes it possible for us to be so different across the different states... Multiplied across a massive country... Yet so similar as a fairly large nation.

You would lose that if you go to a simple popular vote. CA and NY would rule. Period. People who think like NY and CA would move to those places in order to have a voice. People who feel differently, would leave... Gravitating to places where they feel they belong. Desperate to gain a voice. Again... within ten years, you'd have Europe, at best. I think it would be a disaster. It works locally... But not across a country of this size. Do you not see my point, at all?

76855   deepcgi   2016 Nov 9, 8:09pm  

1 in about every 12 solid blue democrats have been lying to the polls for nearly six months.

76856   Strategist   2016 Nov 9, 8:13pm  

Ironman says

The pollsters wheren't wrong. They oversampled and adjusted their polls to give them the result they wanted instead of the result that would be true.

In order to influence the voters, and the outcome of the elections.

76857   MisdemeanorRebel   2016 Nov 9, 8:16pm  

deepcgi says

1 in about every 12 solid blue democrats have been lying to the polls for nearly six months.

That was the Bernie voters who said "Fuck you free trade Hillary."

76858   turtledove   2016 Nov 9, 8:55pm  

If California had a closely split electorate, it would be taking votes away from Kansas
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Okay, but in your first draft, you said the imaginary CA closely split electorate (ROFLMAO) would be taking votes away from Texas. Now it says Kansas. Why did you change states? I bet you see where I'm going with this, don't you?

76859   Gary Anderson   2016 Nov 9, 9:13pm  

Strategist says

He is planning on tax cuts, and massive infrastructure spending. There will be no recession in that scenario. Stop dreaming.

According to Edward Lambert, that won't help. It will help people, but not the GDP. That is what FDR ran into when he did the same. Jobs actually were fewer in 1939 than in 1931. Now, I am not saying it would not help people, but it will likely not help GDP because infrastructure times out. It cannot be sustained.

It will, however, create more treasuries for Wall Street to use as gold collateral in the derivatives markets. And the US should get something in return from Wall Street for doing that.

76860   Rew   2016 Nov 9, 10:27pm  

Good news on education! For profit colleges are loving Trump ... Trump University after all:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-11-09/the-trump-era-is-already-giving-a-boost-to-sagging-student-lenders

;)

76861   Ceffer   2016 Nov 9, 11:15pm  

Snowflakes don't riot. They cry big rivers of sobbing, gut wrenching pathetic tears, get dehydrated, then have a few gatorades, and continue crying.

76862   Mick Russom   2016 Nov 9, 11:28pm  

Dan8267 says

Been saying that for years. Hillary's defeat is the first step on that path. Trump's disastrous presidency is the second.

So wipe the checkerboard clean and play checkers again with black and white chips. All the while you are landed with plebeian slaves telling them this is progress.

76863   HEY YOU   2016 Nov 10, 12:04am  

Just another event that supports the prime directive:
"Be careful who you piss off."
This spans all value systems.
Could have very easily been Clinton haters if she was elected.

76864   epitaph   2016 Nov 10, 12:40am  

I think his road to the presidency has been stranger than fiction, the entire thing is so fascinating to me, but i feel like he is going to get stonewalled by his own party in congress.

76865   lostand confused   2016 Nov 10, 4:11am  

I am seeing a lot of rhetoric from the deranged lefties of killing trump and some even suggesting killing Pence/Trump. Judging by the violence the elfties have routinely indulged in-I think some might take it seriously-there are elfties shooting cops dead-drawing them into ambushes. other lefties cheering them on.

While some of the stupid ivory tower lefties may cheer this on-remember if anarchy reigns -these fools will turn their guns on the rest of us. Pol Pot, Stalin, Kim Jong UN are all examples of leftie utopia.

I say a prayer for trump and his family. I also pray our society does not fall to these degenerate lefties to whom having a different opinion is reason enough to kill. If a president is facing these threats-imagine us the common man-people were chased and bloodied on the streets, women were assaulted-for attending a Presidential candidate's rally. Some lefties on this very forum said that was understandable. In fact they said that was a lesson for those of us who dared to have an opinion different from them.

We are in dangerous time,s with the deranged left in full display and a mainstream media that still covers it up. My only hope is Trump has the strength to prevent us from sliding into the abyss and save us from these deranged bigots/mindless drones/leftist ivory tower critters.

76866   joshuatrio   2016 Nov 10, 4:24am  

lostand confused says

I am seeing a lot of rhetoric from the deranged lefties of killing trump and some even suggesting killing Pence/Trump.

So much for tolerance.

76867   zzyzzx   2016 Nov 10, 4:43am  

Saudi Prince twitter exchange:

76870   zzyzzx   2016 Nov 10, 5:05am  

Mark Cuban frantically deleting some of his old Tweets:
https://twitter.com/mcuban/status/796524649429409792

76871   Y   2016 Nov 10, 5:50am  

That princefuck needs a new pen. looks like it's skippin...

zzyzzx is deplorable says

76872   Y   2016 Nov 10, 5:54am  

I don't see anyone that needs assurance of this...

zzyzzx is deplorable says

First I'll assure everyone that I am not suicidal

76873   Y   2016 Nov 10, 6:30am  

This is all easily solvable. Threaten to make ass fucking a felony if the libbies don't stop rioting.
Everyone will fall in line...

76874   anotheraccount   2016 Nov 10, 6:56am  

I waited till it sold off before I started it buying. For someone living in California it effectively yields more than 7%. This bond sell off reminds me of the sell off in 2010 when Republicans got elected. In the long run rich will come back to bonds. And if they don't, I don't have that much invested in this one yet.

76875   indigenous   2016 Nov 10, 7:04am  

Hey Tard boy/Wogster

Why haven't you read post 127?

76876   missing   2016 Nov 10, 7:11am  

I don't say it's a bad investment, just do your own research and see how it fits your portfolio. My personal opinion, among the CA funds, NAC is the most attractive right now; I have a substantial holding. Had a couple other CA munis but swapped them for national funds, which have market yields > 6% right now (e.g. NZF).

76877   anotheraccount   2016 Nov 10, 7:15am  

FP says

I don't say it's a bad investment

Bonds have been in the last day. EM local currency bonds moved 7% down since yesterday. I don't remember a move like that. Is this a good buying opportunity or are we in a new world?

76878   anonymous   2016 Nov 10, 7:26am  

Buying opportunity

Nothing changed

76879   HEY YOU   2016 Nov 10, 8:05am  

tr6 says

I guess if Republicans and Trump put on more debt than Bush and Obama

Good point! Thought I had thought of everything. Missed the debt situation.
Any problems the USA has will be on the Republicans.
There will be no Clinton to blame.

errc says

Nothing changed

One must be brilliant to change The Rigged Wall Street Casino.
You gamblers,please set a limit for you losses!

76880   Entitlemented   2016 Nov 10, 8:21am  

Thunderlips Licks Shill Tears says

When the Chinese ballistic launched warhead slams into the USS Nimitz and kills 1000 sailors, it was because of a variety of technologies engineered from US plants that subcontracted to Chinese firms in the guidance system.

There was an article about these new Chinese Missiles. Why CNN and MSNBC did not report is part of their ongoing propaganda to protect their political allies, at the cost of the very nation that they claim to have an unbiased reporting viewpoint. Now we know for sure.

The US must become a nation not of democrats or republicans, we must work together in good faith. Repubs should not gloat, and Dems should not feel they are due their candidate because they believed this false propaganda. Verily we now see slivers of the methods of which the Russia became the USSR.

The recouping of jobs, the reduction of monster governments and regulations must be started.

76881   missing   2016 Nov 10, 8:23am  

With bond funds, if your investment horizon equals the duration of the fund (check it on Morningstar) variations in interest rates are not important. If rates increase, bond prices fall but yields increase and over the duration of the fund the two cancel out. In my taxable account, where my muni funds are, I don't trade much, just buy with new cash and do tax harvesting now and then. WIth NAC, I'll wait a bit longer before buying more. CEF funds are like trains - once they start going in one direction it takes a while to stop them.

76882   Strategist   2016 Nov 10, 8:37am  

Gary Anderson says

According to Edward Lambert, that won't help. It will help people, but not the GDP. That is what FDR ran into when he did the same. Jobs actually were fewer in 1939 than in 1931. Now, I am not saying it would not help people, but it will likely not help GDP because infrastructure times out. It cannot be sustained.

Infrastructure spending does not have to be sustained. It will jump start the economy.

76883   Entitlemented   2016 Nov 10, 8:46am  

"Democratic leaders—including emerging ones like a young, charismatic Arkansas lawyer named Bill Clinton—saw a fork in the road, and the path to victory was in abandoning working people."

Question: When Clinton was working on NAFTA did he realize the long term effect? When the debate with Perot was recorded, it shows a smug smile on Clintons face.

DID CLINTON FOREKNOW THE NEGATIVE EFFECTS, OR WAS JUST MAKING A WHAT HE THOUGHT WAS A GOOD DEAL.............?

76884   Dan8267   2016 Nov 10, 8:49am  

Mick Russom says

So wipe the checkerboard clean and play checkers again with black and white chips. All the while you are landed with plebeian slaves telling them this is progress.

Sometimes you have to break a few eggs to make an omelet. The real world isn't linear.

76885   Dan8267   2016 Nov 10, 8:52am  

zzyzzx is deplorable says

You do realize that this demonstrates the hypocrisy of both the left and the right. Also, such hypocrisy is hardly surprising as its a core aspect of conservatism and the left and the right are both conservative camps. You don't hear liberals bitching about the election, and we certainly didn't get what wanted. Show me a video clip of Noam Chomsky saying that Trump is not his president.

76886   HEY YOU   2016 Nov 10, 10:00am  

Republicans really want to get those establishment big govt. SOCIALIST jobs.

Republican motto: Where's my Tax dollar pay check.?

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