patrick.net

http://heavy.com/news/2016/12/nevada-recount-results-final-totals-wisconsin-latest-update-numbers-clinton-trump-de-la-fuente-laws-rules/

Elections should only involve US citizens. The electoral college saved us from being overrun by illegals and voter fraud simply by allowing flyover states to have a bigger voice than would otherwise happen if we just went with the popular vote. Until you fix all that, you have NO RIGHT to argue that the electoral college should be banished.

I'm sure you'll be interested to know that the recount in Nevada, which was one state where Trump and his supporters claimed huge voter fraud showed a difference of 15 votes. That's the state where a Pat.net poster claimed he saw truckloads of illegals transported to the polls.

"According to a press release from the Nevada Secretary of Stateâ€™s Office on the evening of December 8, the Nevada recount found these changes:

Hillary Clinton lost 9 votes.
Donald Trump lost 6 votes."

Yuuuuuge voter fraud. Bigly.

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Lockdownd 2016 Dec 9, 6:53pm

Channeling Trump*

Let me tell you something, it's not going to happen. Believe me.

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Patrick 2016 Dec 9, 6:59pm

jazz music says

Your reference says that "Zoroastrian hell" is temporary, that makes it different.

I'm a fan of Zoroastrianism for that reason and others. Pity it has almost died out, except for persecuted remnants in Iran and an extremely wealthy micro-minority in India (the Parsis).

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curious2 2016 Dec 9, 7:03pm

jazz music says

You are prone to highly charged accusations. Explain why.

jazz music says

Perhaps your understanding is quite different from that.

This gets to the point of my previous statement about the origin of hell.

Q.E.D.you are not getting trolled.

This whole exchange is off topic but I can't understand why you persist in failing to distinguish between inventing and copying. You keep saying that Islam started later than Christianity, as if that were something known only to you. Islam was fabricated by the charlatan mohamed, who was not even born until centuries after Christianity had started. That does not change the facts that (a) hell was intrinsic to Islam from the time of mohamed, (b) Christians did not invent hell, (c) Christians rejected a lot of the Old Testament. These are obvious and uncontroversial facts that anyone can see from reading the texts that each group holds sacred. You call them highly charged accusations, and then you copy and paste Wikipedia for some reason, even though it doesn't even say what you say. Here's a thought: if you want Wikipedia to say what you say, you can go and edit it, and then copy and paste; at least then, your reference will match your comment.

If you are not trolling, then perhaps I can help you. The Wright Brothers invented the airplane, or more specifically they invented powered flight with steering. They demonstrated their invention in France, flying figure-eights over the crowd. Nobody had ever seen anything like that before. That is what inventing looks like. Airbus has made airplanes since it began, and they have even added some innovations to the underlying invention, but Airbus did not invent the airplane. I hope that helps you.

Similarly, Islam included hell from the time of Mohamed, and tends to bring hell on earth, in ways that go far beyond any other religion. Early Christians rejected a lot of the Old Testament, and different Christians have different beliefs about whether hell exists, but none of them invented it. I hope that's clear enough for you. Your accusing Christians of supposedly inventing hell was false, as was your accusing me of saying so; if anyone has made highly charged accusations here, I think that would be you.

77864 anonymous 2016 Dec 9, 8:20pm

joeyjojojunior says

I'm sure you'll be interested to know that the recount in Nevada, which was one state where Trump and his supporters claimed huge voter fraud showed a difference of 15 votes. That's the state where a Pat.net poster claimed he saw truckloads of illegals transported to the polls.

OMG! The results of one state have to mean that all other states are similar, and a Pat.net user said it wasn't so. Your deductive reasoning skills are unmatched.

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Shaman 2016 Dec 9, 9:56pm

Let's just see here: which sorts of governments sustain the most productive and happy populations? Is it the small coalition governments of the elites? Or is it the large coalition governments of the people? Talk the people down all you want, but they are fairly good at creating their own governments. Small coalition governments around the world and throughout history have been oppressive, short sighted, wasteful, and selfishly opportunistic at the expense of the electorate. History is clear: elites govern horribly, while the "stupid" people of the land govern much more wisely.
Get on the right side of history iwRoNg!

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Gary Anderson 2016 Dec 9, 10:02pm

Benjamin Bowler?

No Logan, it is Chris Whalen, who showed the housing bubble was a premeditated scam.

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_ 2016 Dec 9, 10:04pm

Chris Whalen,

Chris is the one in the middle we have been friends for some time now

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Gary Anderson 2016 Dec 9, 10:04pm

Indiana Jones says

Logan Mohtashami For President 2020!

The man on the left wouldn't be an economic adviser, even though I know some of you love him

The middle guy is Chris Whalen: http://www.businessinsider.com/chris-whalen-urges-the-us-to-default-2011-4

Isn't the guy next to him David Stockman?

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_ 2016 Dec 9, 10:07pm

Chris Whalen

He is a really funny guy, The next time I go out to New York and visit a few people, he would be one for sure

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_ 2016 Dec 9, 10:10pm

Chris Whalen

He was at the last economic conference I spoke at. I am speaking at the CAR conference in Late Jan. I doubt he would be there but we are both going back to Texas next year for the Americatalyst

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Gary Anderson 2016 Dec 9, 10:29pm

Why don't you guys hook your blogs up to Talkmarkets? https://goo.gl/Gohukb Could be an opportunity down the road.

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_ 2016 Dec 9, 10:35pm

Why don't you guys hook your blogs up to Talkmarkets?

Everyone should go their own path. Each person has their own company's and a lot peopled are tied to their investment thesis Teaming up in the blogging world I don't think is ever a good idea.

Plus I think it's very important that many different people have their own set economic narratives that they want to discuss without anyone else being part of that equation.

2017 Should be a fun year in economics, I can't wait... and end this thread for good once I finish my 2017 Economic and Housing Prediction article

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Gary Anderson 2016 Dec 9, 11:04pm

Thunderlips is Tovbot2 says

Plus I think it's very important that many different people have their own set economic narratives that they want to discuss without anyone else being part of that equation.

Oh a loner huh? :) Just kidding. So, what do you think about the theory that wage percentage of GDP being in decline continually will become a danger to the nation? Effective demand shows that this is happening.

77874 anonymous 2016 Dec 9, 11:25pm

Additionally, North Carolina's State Board of Elections also performed a recent audit that out of 10,000 voter citizenship cases they looked into, over 14% were likely non-citizens.

Sorry bud, the evidence is there

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anotheraccount 2016 Dec 9, 11:45pm

Let's see. He's not President yet.

I don't now if I need to see anymore. He is bringing Russian oligarchy model to US.

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_ 2016 Dec 10, 6:50am

Effective demand shows that this is happening.

Our consumption is fine, but as always I adjust everything to demographics and older people don't spend like they did when they're were younger.

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_ 2016 Dec 10, 7:04am

This one is for you bears

77878 joeyjojojunior 2016 Dec 10, 8:01am

MG! The results of one state have to mean that all other states are similar, and a Pat.net user said it wasn't so. Your deductive reasoning skills are unmatched.

So, let's see here. You're quote theoretical studies on potential voter fraud and think it's better evidence than an ACTUAL examination of votes and voters in the state that YOU and other voter fraud activists said was among the WORST offenders.

One of the WORST states showed exactly 3 votes difference. How can you explain this???

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Gary Anderson 2016 Dec 10, 8:31am

The green line shows the business cycle ended in Dec 2014.

77880 anonymous 2016 Dec 10, 9:04am

Quote from the study "A significant number of voters who were not citizens cast illegal ballots in U.S. elections".

What part of that do you all not understand? The "may" part of it was whether it tipped the election toward Obama. The fact that illegals voted was undisputed by your precious left wing institution

77881 joeyjojojunior 2016 Dec 10, 9:18am

can't have a debate with people who have already made up their mind and don't let facts or data or fucking common sense change that. Waste of my time...moving on.

You mean like actual recounts of actual votes and actual voters? The ones that never find any significant voter fraud?

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_ 2016 Dec 10, 9:54am

https://loganmohtashami.com/2016/12/09/manufacturing-under-president-donald-trump/

The green line shows the business cycle ended in Dec 2014.

This was the big whiff of the cycle

We call this the theory of the PMI bears... recession callers of 2015 and 2016 that low gas prices was going to created the next recession.

Because the lack of context with real time economics, this old model wasn't going to work in this cycle because this was primarily a strong dollar play not in a recessionary trend.

PMI bears of 2015 and 2016 will go down in history as one of the worst economic calls we might have seen in the last 100 years of economics.

This is why people need to verse themselves in more modern day economic trends

In the past when manufacturing was in a recession and yes it has been in a recession the U.S. was in one but that was more due to domestic demand curve economics not a strong dollar taking oil out play

We need to educate people more this and hence why I wanted to explain that in my recent Trump Manufacturing Article on how world trade PMI works

77883 anonymous 2016 Dec 10, 10:20am

Threat levels if you're a Democrat

Obama just passed the worst legislation in the history of the planet, written by the evil Heritage Foundation: yay this is so good i have no clue why, I can't explain my reasons, but it has Obamas name on it! Just has to be good!!!

Wikileaks exposes that the DNC rigs the primary to defeat an extremely popular leftist, running on the best platform in the history of this country: OH MUH GAWD CAN WE DRONE STRIKE ASSANGE?!

77884 anonymous 2016 Dec 10, 10:27am

No, he didn't

Yes, he did

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You mean the Democratic party picked the candidate? You know in the old days primaries didn't even exist right?

Yup. How is that supposed to be a response to what I said?

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Tenpoundbass 2016 Dec 10, 11:55am

You're the dumbest motherfucker I know.

Everytime the Liberals get caught with their dicks in the dog they go blamming Russia and Trump.

http://www.lifezette.com/polizette/exclusive-dhs-admits-georgia-hack-may-inside-job/

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/12/09/washington-post-cia-report-russia-intervened-election/95230696/

http://dailycaller.com/2016/12/10/rnc-spokesman-slams-wp-nyt-report-the-russians-never-hacked-us-video/

Now this next one I hope is true

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/741960/russia-angela-merkel-germany-election-cyber-attack-plot-us-official-cia

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Tenpoundbass 2016 Dec 10, 12:29pm

Ironman says

There's this thing called FACTS and PROOF...

Got any????

HIllary said so and Obama agreed.
That's their proof pathological liars and cheats.

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Tenpoundbass 2016 Dec 10, 12:36pm

For some reason I'm less concerned about Russians than I am with Washington Liberals.
You fuckers are the ones that pushed the Russian Reset, remember?

It has been reset give it a rest assholes. Russians are great until they fuck up as bad as Obama.
Putin didn't sell me health insurance that I can't afford, not does he tax me if don't buy it.
I think Putin loves more than Obama.

What do you think of THAT!?

77888 HEY YOU 2016 Dec 10, 1:03pm

How did Russia manipulate the election?

It must be true even though no one has read a copy of any proof.
america's pandemic: Stupidity.
Anyone! Please post any link from the NSA,CIA,FBI to any facts about Russia.
How many lies,over many administrations, has the govt. told the american people?
Bigger question: How many voters believe crap,without evidence?
I only believe campaign promises!

77889 HEY YOU 2016 Dec 10, 1:14pm

Tenpoundbass says

What do you think of THAT!?

I think you are not thinking & making a futile attempt at trolling.

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Oilwelldoctor 2016 Dec 10, 2:58pm

I for one would much rather see nuclear war with Russia in Syria and other places than to trade in oil and other commodities.

77891 anonymous 2016 Dec 10, 3:13pm

There was no opinion added to the leaked information. It just was what it was, and it made the establishment look terrible. I love that. If it had been naked pics or someone's unrelated personal life details, I would be vehemently against it regardless of whether it's someone I disagree with politically. The info leaked needed to be for the good of the country and world to see how corrupt our system really is. It's that simple...no need to overcomplicate it.

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_ 2016 Dec 10, 4:12pm

https://research.stlouisfed.org/publications/economic-synopses/2016/11/04/a-closer-look-at-federal-income-taxes/?&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=SM&utm_term=fiscal&utm_content=pub&utm_campaign=6250_3

Who in the fuck is going to pay taxes in US

My bad I forgot to give you the data on who pays the taxes in the U.S.

77893 HEY YOU 2016 Dec 10, 6:09pm

http://robinwestenra.blogspot.com/2016/12/a-thousand-lehmans-event-is-going-to.html

In the aftermath of what has been a wild couple of weeks of trading, today a former associate of George Soros told King World News that “A thousand Lehmans” event is going to plunge the world into total chaos.

77894 HEY YOU 2016 Dec 10, 6:30pm

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/half-of-americans-are-shut-off-from-economic-growth/

Even after accounting for the occasional recession and slowdown, America’s economy has greatly expanded since the days of disco. Despite that growth, however, half of Americans have failed to share in the country’s economic gains since the 1970s, with roughly 117 million American adults living on income that’s stagnated at about $16,200 per year before taxes and transfer payments, according to new research from economists Thomas Piketty, Emmanuel Saez and Gabriel Zucman.

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Gary Anderson 2016 Dec 10, 7:19pm