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Tim Aurora says

And you really love Trump or hate Obama to the core.

I dont know if Repubs are as vicious as Dems. I dont hate Hillary at all. I would prefer:

- That if she took an easy route to her server that she would not at first deny sending classified, and then state that she has hired a professional IT firm to fix it.

- That she would be more truthful.

- I am upset that Bill Clinton has not manned up to some of the economic job loss with NAFTA. Verily I say that if Bill would have came out and said that NAFTA needed some adjustments - that Hillary would be getting coronated next week.

Tim Aurora says

Putin is fighting against us ISIS and Al Qaeda in Syria

Fixed!

Tim Aurora says

What is this world coming to

Oh I think I know!

MAGA to the Max, that's what.

Another two brainwashed Trumpkins heard from.

And two "I thought the media was concentrated, the CIA liars, and neocons were full of shit - until Trump came along, now they're all my allies." types have had their say.

Not my allies. The truth is my ally.

For example-what was inaccurate in CNN's reporting? What was "fake" to use your leader's word?

joeyjojojunior says

For example-what was inaccurate in CNN's reporting? What was "fake" to use your leader's word?

The Document is utterly unverified and key facts are outright fabrications right off the bat (ie Cohen in Prague). Any asshole can write up a 35-page report in Word and send it on.

Therefore, it's as fake as if some redneck in a trailer faked up a Kenyan Birth Certificate and sent it to CNN or Buzzfeed.

PS You've had a year with every intel agency and Media Outlet with armies of employees desperately searching for some Russia-Trump connection. Not an ounce of evidence has been shown.

"The Document is utterly unverified. Any asshole can write up a 35-page report in Word and send it on. Therefore, it's as fake as if some redneck in a trailer faked up a Kenyan Birth Certificate and sent it to CNN or Buzzfeed."

And did CNN reference the document or release it? I'm asking what CNN reported that was fake?

joeyjojojunior says

And did CNN reference the document or release it? I'm asking what CNN reported that was fake?

CNN did reference the document and the Buzzfeed story. Saying it was "Unverified" was not enough - it shouldn't have been reported in the first place.

"Therefore, it's as fake as if some redneck in a trailer faked up a Kenyan Birth Certificate and sent it to CNN or Buzzfeed."

Great point. So, where was the outrage from you and bass and Ironman when CNN reported on Sheriff Arpaio or Trump's claims about Obama's birth certificate?

joeyjojojunior says

Great point. So, where was the outrage from you and bass and Ironman when CNN reported on Sheriff Arpaio or Trump's claims about Obama's birth certificate?

Never a birther, thanks!

Read my posts over the past few years - I'm not a party loyalist and never have been.

"CNN did reference the document and the Buzzfeed story. Saying it was "Unverified" was not enough - it shouldn't have been reported in the first place"

Nope. CNN reported that intelligence agencies briefing included discussion about Trump potentially being compromised. In light of previous stories about Trump's ties to Russia, that certainly seems newsworthy.

"Never a birther, thanks! Read my posts over the past few years - I'm not a party loyalist and never have been."

OK--please point to the posts where you call such stories "fake" news and are outraged like now.

joeyjojojunior says

OK--please point to the ones where you call such stories "fake" news and are outraged like now.

CHRIS CUOMO, CNN: Remember, it is illegal to possess these stolen documents. It is different from the media. So everything you learn about this, you are learning from us.

1. Documents not stolen by Wikileaks, they were LEAKED to Wikileaks
2. It's not illegal for CNN but not "ordinary people" to read leaked documents obtained from the internet.

joeyjojojunior says

Nope. CNN reported that intelligence agencies briefing included discussion about Trump potentially being compromised. In light of previous stories about Trump's ties to Russia, that certainly seems newsworthy.

Intel Officials (illegally) leaking the information around the PDB to the Press is news. But that's not what's at issue.

The mention of a dodgy Dossier Word Document is the issue.

Trump is a lying sac of propaganda. Most of the country knows this. Hopefully the rest aren't irreversibly lobotomized at this point.

Tim Aurora says

Ah, so now you show your true colors. Putin is fighting against us in Syria, Ukraine and hacking our election and now he is your best friend. Well said Russian.

If Putin is fighting ISIS in Syria in support of their legitimate secular citizen-supported government, and you say that's fighting against "us," that means you consider yourself allied with ISIS! Talk about showing your islamofascist true black colors! You, sir, claim to be on the side of murderers, rapists, and genocide on a large scale! That's utterly despicable, @Tim Aurora! You suck! And anyone who agrees with you also sucks! We Americans don't cotton to genocidal Muslims like you!

"1. Documents not stolen by Wikileaks, they were LEAKED to Wikileaks
2. It's not illegal for CNN but not "ordinary people" to read leaked documents obtained from the internet."

Uh, wtf are you talking about? I'm asking when you posted outrage at the fake news stories circulating about Obama's birth certificate

"Intel Officials (illegally) leaking the information around the PDB to the Press is news. But that's not what's at issue. The mention of a dodgy Dossier Word Document is the issue."

OK--here's the article. Please detail what is "fake"

http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/10/politics/donald-trump-intelligence-report-russia/index.html

Some examples of Media Fake News:

Dan Rather and the story of the "Word Document" created on the personal computer of a disgruntled ex-Reserve Officer.

Jayson Blair writing shit out of whole cloth at the NYT, never attending the events he was supposed to report on.

Rolling Stone Rape Story

It's Illegal to Read Wikileaks - only CNN can.

Hands Up, Don't Shoot - NYT, MSNBC lied.

PropOrNot Story that celebrated unknown, unprovenced, unidentified operatives at a brand new Neocon Blacklist Site as "Experts" - WaPo

Repeating SPLC Claims that "Race Mixer" (wife=Persian), avowed non-White Supremacist and Jew Mike Cernovich as a White Supremacist. - Esquire, Atlantic

Ironman says

“I expressed my profound dismay at the leaks that have been appearing in the press, and we both agreed that they are extremely corrosive and damaging to our national security,” Clapper said.

Judging by all the urine jokes flying around, you still have to prove the report is false.

Rumors are fun, aren't they?

Absent proof that the "dossier" is a fabrication, your best strategy is not to talk about it.
Many people think there is no smoke without fire.

That's only the times they are caught.

I wonder how many "high level officials speaking anonymously" are just the reporter farting around.

Once upon a time, Editors would disallow Anonymous Sources unless there was other supporting evidence, the source was told to the editor and deemed reliable, and the story was of incredible importance.

Once again you've proven you don't even know what fake news is. And obviously cannot show what is fake about the CNN story.

joeyjojojunior says

Once again you've proven you don't even know what fake news is. And obviously cannot show what is fake about the CNN story.

Fake News is shit that didn't happen, based on pitiful 'evidence' that would be rejected in nearly any other case except that which pushes an Oligarch's narrative.

"Fake News is shit that didn't happen, based on pitiful 'evidence' that would be rejected in nearly any other case except that which pushes an Oligarch's narrative"

Was Trump an oligarch then when he was pushing the Obama birther story? Or Sheriff Arpaio? Is he an ogligarch?

Those got a lot of press.

Still waiting for you to identify anything CNN wrote that could even remotely be considered "fake" news

You want me to play this game with Obama quotes?

joeyjojojunior says

Could you point me to where Clapper says it's false and fictitious?

He can't. Ironman is guilty here of fake news.

Tenpoundbass says

I said that two days ago when the lie broke, no Intelligence community would write a Gossip dossier based on hearsay and accusations.

They probably trusted the spy from the UK who put the report together. It has not been proven not to be true, Einstein. It is exactly what was done to Clinton. Live with it until it is proven false.

This article from last January was very prescient:

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/01/donald-trump-2016-authoritarian-213533

It predicted that Trump's popularity would grow and that he would have some success with Dems and Independents.

It's a silly notion. Most politicians refuse to answer some questions, or ignore the question on go on some unrelated tangent, or say some something so vague as to be meaningless. This is what politicians do.
In a room full of journalists he gets to shut down one that is screaming and rude to answer others.
Nothing dictatorial about that.

So you're claiming you're not an ISIS supporter, you just don't know what you're talking about? Ignorance? Blind belief in mass media? Just shut up until you've done some research. Until then I've got one word for you: "Ba-aa-aa!"

So now we're going with the Dictator angle Oye vey!!!

Why can't you braid dead simpleton motherfuckers come up with all of these verbal assaults at once.
You know it seems so petty and cheapish to piece mail it one at a time as the previous ploy fails.
So you come up with another one. Anyone that has ever seen a ten year old knows Liberals politics flawlessly and can predict your next move.
I thought you bastards were Smart?

Tim Aurora says

if the hacking by our ardent enemy does not make you sick to the stomach, you are not American

Hacking is a fact of modern life. Tons of private information is stolen to criminals every day.
Or emails can get subpoenaed in a lawsuit and become public, or they can be leaked.
Politicians just have to adjust to the fact that emails are not 100% secured.

Especially if you run your own server.

What was the questions perhaps they were stupid questions.
Obama surly didn't answer what he thought were Stupid questions. Remember Joe the Plumber? The MSM ripped him apart.

More over Obama didn't give many press conferences and only 3 SOTU addresses after it looked like Trump was showing the world what an American leader looked like.

Trump was giving SOTU addresses every day from the Primary trail.

Merely sticking the word "Unverifiable" in a Fake Ass News Story, then deflecting blame by protesting you're only reporting on Buzzfeed's reporting of the story, doesn't cut it.

Heraclitusstudent says

It's a silly notion. Most politicians refuse to answer some questions, or ignore the question on go on some unrelated tangent, or say some something so vague as to be meaningless. This is what politicians do.

In a room full of journalists he gets to shut down one that is screaming and rude to answer others.

Nothing dictatorial about that.

Hillary would just hand the journalists the questions she want's asked in advance instead.