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79640   Entitlemented   2017 Jan 17, 9:45am  

deepcgi says

Just before Bastille Day, the French aristocrats were also screaming that the huddled masses should shut up and work harder. The powdered wigs came off voluntarily. The heads weren't so fortunate

During the lead up to the French Revolution, the 3rd Estate (peasants) were made to pay taxes on land while there was multiple exemptions for land tax for the wealthy. The size of the government of France was so expensive, and mostly concentrated in Paris, that like today in the US, the far reaching counties far from the city center were revolting. That the Nobles exempted themselves from tax, that the Clergy also were overbearing, that the workers had to pay so much tax while they struggled built up in the 3rd Estate a revolutionary spirit. That the 3rd Estate also had to provide so much of their crops to the landowners was also a terrible thing, being a huge burden. Stories from DeToqueville "Ancienne Regime" talk of farmers bringing their crops to market, meeting a the land owner along the way and being forced to turn over a good amount of his crops on the spot. On the way back from the market, the farmer/peasant was met by a government official to collect one of 4-5 taxes including the land tax. The Royals and their minions were constantly changing the laws to collect more and more taxes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taille

If the governments role in outsourcing a great number of jobs, from the people geographically located in the midwest, far from city center is not a coincidence, but a result of the elitism in cities that existed in 1500-1700 France, that also exists today in US cities. It warrants a study of the "busy work" in cities, of the Lawyers, Intendants, Humanities Majors, vs those who work the land, make saws and semiconductors vs paper and laws.

A read of Montesquieu and D Tocqueville is more than enlightening.

79641   MMR   2017 Jan 17, 9:46am  

This is what trump meant by draining swamp. Maybe she shouldn't have conspired against Bernie sanders

79642   Tenpoundbass   2017 Jan 17, 9:46am  

She's so stupid you can only impeach a President for offenses committed while serving office.
We went over this when the Libtards were drinking up all of the bathwater when it looked like Hillary might steal the election, but what happens if the GOP tried to Impeach her?
The unanimous answer was "Impeachment is only for crimes committed in office".

Think she has a pantyhose stretched over her bald head under that wig?

79643   MMR   2017 Jan 17, 9:46am  

Ironman says

Where do you CA residents find these Clueless Rodents???

Maxine Waters, A Democratic Congresswoman has called for Donald Trump to be impeached on the grounds that he coined the term ‘crooked Hillary’ in collusion with the Russian government, even suggesting that the Kremlin was feeding Trump such lines to use during his campaign.

Only person of note boycotting trump

79644   MMR   2017 Jan 17, 9:49am  

Tenpoundbass says

She's so stupid you can only impeach a President for offenses committed while serving office.

She's pandering to the Lowest common denominator amongst DNC votebank. Her district consists of 80% LCD. We can thank voting for welfare to keep them on their side of tracks

79645   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2017 Jan 17, 9:53am  

I wish Dems would keep their cool for a bit. Trump will implode on his own if given a bit of time. Waters is just making moderates more sympathetic to the fool.

79646   joeyjojojunior   2017 Jan 17, 10:06am  

"I said if these guys behave in an obstructionist manner they would have problems dealing with an unprecedented level of negative publicity that these individual congress persons have not experienced. You said: they haven't had any problem over last 8 years. I said(paraphrasing): they had not behaved in an obstructionist manner under obama. You then started talking about republicans behaving in an obstructionist manner."

I think you need a writing class. Your overuse of the pronoun "they" makes it impossible to determine your point.

You implied that, if Dems acted in an obstructionist manner, the negative publicity would hurt them. I simply replied that the Republicans did for the last 8 years exactly what you are saying would harm the Dems, and they paid no price for it. Easy parallel to see.

79647   joeyjojojunior   2017 Jan 17, 10:08am  

"Where are links that these democrats standing in solidarity behaved in obstructionist manner during obama presidency. Links or you are talking out of anus"

wtf are you talking about? I was obviously referring to Republican Congressmen who did exactly that over the last 8 years during the Obama Presidency. Why would a Dem. obstruct a Democratic President? Are you an idiot?

79648   MisdemeanorRebel   2017 Jan 17, 10:24am  

Tim Aurora says

Hillary Clinton's campaign never endorsed the birther movement. It was a rumor on the fringe. Repeating that movement actually was done by Trump.

Not only did the Hillary Camp begin the Birth Certificate rumors, her camp never denied circulating the Obama in Muslim Garb Photo. There are leaked memos showing that Hillary was determined to paint Obama as "Not Really American", while saying she was "Born in Middle America to the Middle Class (SNORT)"

www.youtube.com/embed/XwSw9O0agGI

http://www.slate.com/blogs/trailhead/2008/02/25/obama_gets_dressed.html?wpsrc=sh_all_dt_tw_top

"Hey, whaddya mean? I think it's Great that Barak Hussein Obama represents the diversity of America an has a Muslim Father"

79649   Entitlemented   2017 Jan 17, 10:27am  

anonymous says

The picture is pretty funny too - Winner on the left and Loser on the right - get it ?

Completely unrealistic.

Both teams are outstanding. Even with a great last 2 minutes, and having the kicker complete 2 > 50 yd field goals in the last seconds, this was a nearly even match, essentially a draw.

The most important thing is that both teams gave it their all.

79650   zzyzzx   2017 Jan 17, 10:33am  

OK, so I learned not to buy gas in Pennsylvania.

79651   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2017 Jan 17, 10:41am  

Ironman says

Delusional

Yes. That describes you perfectly well.

79652   Heraclitusstudent   2017 Jan 17, 10:55am  

YesYNot says

Trump will implode on his own if given a bit of time.

That's what everyone thought end of 2015 and ever since.
Maybe taunting him a little would help?

79653   Heraclitusstudent   2017 Jan 17, 10:56am  

Ironman says

Sorry, I lived in an all white area.. no illegals available.. (and NO smartphones)

and that was back when teenagers actually WORKED to make their spending money... something YOU know NOTHING about.

Yeah but it's a fact now there are smartphones, Internet, illegal aliens, and generally a lot of grown ups looking to mow loans to feed their families.

79654   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2017 Jan 17, 11:09am  

Heraclitusstudent says

That's what everyone thought end of 2015 and ever since.

Maybe taunting him a little would help?

Past performance is not a guaranty of future returns. I'm going with a fundamental analysis based on impossible promises and terrible approval ratings. Trump is a great salesman and marketer. As I noted over a year ago, his skillset is perfect for running for office, but not so great for governing. My bet is that the tires will start to fall off when the rubber meets the road. Taunting / trolling is OK. Giving a character foil that shifts sympathy toward Trump is a mistake. I put Lewis more in the first camp. Waters' comments seem to me to be in the latter.

79655   MMR   2017 Jan 17, 11:23am  

Ironman says

couldn't wait to get my working papers and get a real job at age 16.

One of the few places I saw hiring teenagers was in n out burger. I just don't see that many high schoolers working anymore. Most people are of college age or grads of college with iffy job prospects

79656   MMR   2017 Jan 17, 11:24am  

Logan Mohtashami says

M's are buying homes.....now that they're in their 30's now

Which cities/states?

79657   _   2017 Jan 17, 11:31am  

MMR says

Which cities/states?

One thing to be mindful of the data... The NAR has their survey data of first time home buyers, last report has 35%, running at trend 30% for many years. That is still Millions and millions of first time home buyers in this cycle. However, looking at the raw loan data, The M's are the biggest buyers of homes now, just the law of demographic math.

Mark Fleming and I presented this at the economic conference with the thesis that Student loan debt isn't the big factor on why first time home buyers aren't massive in this cycle. The educated income power given with a degree is a plus not a minus. Now that the M's are in the 30's they're the biggest buyers now of homes

The data you requested is above

79658   _   2017 Jan 17, 11:39am  

The more interesting time frame is to see what happens in years 2020-2024 when there will be a higher supply of college educated dual income Americans in play and how it relates to housing demand.

In any case, as always, this isn't a deflationary thesis. Even the biggest American bear Harry Dent gives up his bearish theories in the next decade

79659   Heraclitusstudent   2017 Jan 17, 11:44am  

Logan Mohtashami says

If you lower Millennials on that graph by 20%, (putting the spike near 3.8) then not much is going to change.

79660   Heraclitusstudent   2017 Jan 17, 11:45am  

Logan Mohtashami says

Even the biggest American bear Harry Dent gives up his bearish theories in the next decade

Curse of the last bear.

79661   _   2017 Jan 17, 11:48am  

Heraclitusstudent says

Curse of the last bear.

Funny part is that he is starting to run out of time with his own data lines. Dent believes in a mass over investment thesis, this is why he claims that home prices have to fall 42%-67% in some areas because he is using the Japan thesis here. So in theory we should have collapsed by now but I find his work to be drama queen material. Prime age labor force growth did peak in 2007 and yes we are in a rough demographic patch from 2008-2019.. all demographic people believe in this but his flaw was the grand over investment thesis.

79662   Heraclitusstudent   2017 Jan 17, 12:04pm  

Ironman says

What's that got to do with lazy teenagers and Millennials NOT working for their spending cash??

The best return for teenagers is to study harder and longer.

Ironman says

Because the lazy ass teenagers and Special Snowflake Millennials (like YOU) won't do it.

No. because they need to to feed their families.

79663   MisdemeanorRebel   2017 Jan 17, 12:17pm  

The real test for the Democrats is the upcoming battle about Part D Drug Negotiation.

Wayyyy too many democrats are in the pockets of Big Pharma that wants to get paid full retail for drugs that are purchased by the billions of pills annually.

Will the Dems side with Paul Ryan against Trump?

79664   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2017 Jan 17, 12:31pm  

Ironman says

You LOST the last FOUR.

You've got me confused with someone else, and your reading comprehension sucks.

79665   Entitlemented   2017 Jan 17, 12:39pm  

Entitlemented says

During the lead up to the French Revolution, the 3rd Estate (peasants) were made to pay taxes on land while there was multiple exemptions for land tax for the wealthy.

Waiting for a discussion of how current Proposition 13 reinforces or is different from the land taxes in France pre-1700s.......

79666   Entitlemented   2017 Jan 17, 1:00pm  

Why does everyone want to fan the flames of division left over from the last 8 years.

Alinskys 13th commandment making them do it?

We should not hate the politicians. We need to not polarize, not hate as Alinsky has suggested in his 13th commandment. We need to set aside politics of division and polarization. It worked - a little too well.

We need to be principled as a founding father - set aside politics - the election is over.

Remember, Lincoln realized that Slavery was wrong, had a heck of a hard time getting every to agree, had a revolution over the matter. He was Republican - and he was right, just very unpopular....

79668   deepcgi   2017 Jan 17, 1:51pm  

Yes, it is a very different world today than it was late 18th Century France, but plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose, right? The common man's tolerance of unfairness vs his fear of those in power has changed little. If anything the balance is more tenuous today. Most of the "poor peasants" this time around can not only read and write, but also took a shower this morning, have mobile access to front page news and instant social access software, and would perform well against many of the rich and lazy on intelligence tests.

The government is still favoring the Have's over the Have-nots because they know the latter would spend the windfall on real commodities rather than any investment that can be artificially inflated.

The American Screwed-Over (SO) can and will yell just as loudly as anyone in Greece, Portugal, Spain, Italy or Ireland. The Chinese SO are finally learning how. Were you convinced the Chinese man's fear of their government was boundless? You were wrong. The number of labor strikes in China escalated by 100 percent from 2012 to 2014, and by another hundred percent by mid year 2016.

The fundamentals of today's riches are based on currency manipulation and asset class favoritism...all over again.

79669   zzyzzx   2017 Jan 17, 2:06pm  

Is that 20% figure adjusted for inflation?

79670   zzyzzx   2017 Jan 17, 2:06pm  

It's all Obama's fault!!!

79671   RWSGFY   2017 Jan 17, 2:29pm  

anonymous says

Jersey

Nobody in CA gives a flying fuck about Jersey.

79673   NDrLoR   2017 Jan 17, 3:19pm  

Ironman says

Shows Left-Wing Devouring Its Own

It's what happened in the late 60's.

79674   Entitlemented   2017 Jan 17, 3:39pm  

deepcgi says

The fundamentals of today's riches are based on currency manipulation and asset class favoritism...all over again.

-The US cannot outsource our way to prosperity.
-Walmart being the #1 employer in 19 states is similar to a French "3rd Estate" condition.
-The US cannot graduate record number of lawyers, humanties, while Indian and Asian counterparts take up the most positions in Undergraduate/Overgraduate Sciences/Medicine.
-The US needs to get back to the progressivism that got the US into technology and manufacturing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_Era
-Bringing back jobs to the US is only sustainable way to stabilize the middle class, and create opportunities for the entry level classes.
-Liberal Elistism in our inner cities, the malivestment and concentration of taxable resources is being wasted on cities vs. spent on infrastructure. Malivestment cuts across political and class boundaries.

This is so much like 1700 France, which at least had been been through the enlightenment, buoyed by Napolean to correct the other factors that layed liberty aside until the people did rise up. The US would not be free republic today if not for Jeffersons working with the Montesquie. Also the statue of Liberty was the greatest gift - dont think we could of realized it at the time! Liberty, Egalitarianism, and Fraternity, dont leave home without it.

79675   HEY YOU   2017 Jan 17, 3:43pm  

errc says

You got three likes for what may be the stupidest post I read all day.

Stupid post are patnet rule # 6

Make that 3 likes from stupid people.

79676   RWSGFY   2017 Jan 17, 3:45pm  

Ironman says

Straw Man says

Nobody in CA gives a flying fuck about Jersey.

Your jealousy isn't very becoming.

Enjoy your Gov. Moonbeam screwing!!

Jealosy towards Jersey? Same shit as CA with worse weather.

79677   HEY YOU   2017 Jan 17, 3:46pm  

Quigley says

The wall bit was tongue-in-cheek.

What was "IRAQ has WMD" ?

79678   lostand confused   2017 Jan 17, 3:50pm  

Good. The corporate party is alarmed we may have a President that supports the common man and not the monied interests.

79679   Heraclitusstudent   2017 Jan 17, 4:02pm  

Entitlemented says

... buoyed by Napolean to correct the other factors that layed liberty aside until the people did rise up.

"buoyed by Napolean"???
"until the people did rise up"???

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