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80675   justme   2017 Feb 8, 8:52am  

As usual, Ironman misses the point by a country mile, and the miss is caused by partisan blindness. Allow me to quote:

US Senate Rule XIX ( Rule 19) paragraph 2: "No Senator in debate shall, directly or indirectly, by any form of words impute to another Senator or to other Senators any conduct or motive unworthy or unbecoming a Senator."

Oh, I see. The US Senate has created a rule that directly allows the majority of the Senate to curtail the free speech of Senators. NICE. That sounds unconstitutional, if you ask me.

If Free Speech cannot be exercised in the US Senate, then where in our country do we have freedom of expression? I ask rhetorically, of course. The obvious conclusion is that the 1st Amendment of the US constitution is violated every day in the US Senate, by the mere existence of Rule 19.

80676   Shaman   2017 Feb 8, 8:54am  

So all the lawyers and government workers stay home. And?
I'm convinced that lawyer college turns people into asshole Leftists. I reconnected with a college friend a year ago and (while he was an outgoing engineering student then) he had become a lawyer. And now he posts annoying Leftist crap all the time and has a big echo chamber of like minded individuals to agree. I'm just like, what happened to this guy? Law school seems like the culprit.

80677   Shaman   2017 Feb 8, 8:58am  

I read another somewhat sketchy article a few days ago that claimed the FBI was waiting for Jeff Sessions to be confirmed and then making 70 arrests in the pizzagate scandal of top politicians.
Source was "FBI informant."
I can hope it's true without flat out believing it. If they're both true, could they be related?

80678   joeyjojojunior   2017 Feb 8, 8:58am  

"Was it a constitutional violation or are they following procedure?"

Not sure if it's a Constitutional violation--courts would have to decide that. But it's for sure a chickenshit move. The Senate isn't worried about a potential Cabinet member having a racist past--they're just worried about someone mentioning that he has a racist past.

And all of you guys defending it are certainly huge hypocrites after spending countless threads talking about how free speech is so important. And how the special snowflakes can't handle it.

80679   HEY YOU   2017 Feb 8, 8:59am  

Everyday Democrats should read the letter in the Senate for the next four years.FortWayne says

Finally someone told her to chill out on insults. Her wanna be sjw act was getting old.

DIE McConnell,Sessions & Republicans from horrible,painful diseases or STUPIDITY. I'll visit you in the hospital & laugh at you.
How many Republicans,in D.C. and elsewhere,are just SOCIALIST GOVT. EMPLOYEES.
How many Republicans are sucking the SOCIALIST GOVT. TEAT & don't even have to leave home to go to a SOCIALIST GOVT. JOB?
Stupid Republicans may have opened a can of worms,will the Dems listen to every word out of slime mouths & use the rule against them.
They have no control over HEY YOU,FREE SPEECH LOVING PATRIOT.
OH! WAIT! They can click ignore. COWARDS!

80680   Shaman   2017 Feb 8, 9:02am  

Maybe this rule was enacted to avoid the kind of ad hominem attacks that used to lead to fist fights and brawls in Congress.
After all, calling the opposition a bunch of "poo-poo heads" is about the same as calling them "racists," and just as productive!
Limiting discourse like this is something that's done in every office and business circle.
Or do you wish we had duels still?

80681   joeyjojojunior   2017 Feb 8, 9:09am  

Do you have something against free speech? Or do you ONLY want it when it benefits YOUR team?

80682   HEY YOU   2017 Feb 8, 9:42am  

Australia should declare war on France.

80683   HEY YOU   2017 Feb 8, 9:46am  

Republican know they are right.
WMD!
The right loves the taste of their foot in their mouth!

80684   Tenpoundbass   2017 Feb 8, 9:47am  

Tell her to shut the fuck up, she might be cucked by terrorists but we're not.
I'll morn for her daughter if she's such a chickenshit Marxist idiot that she can not.

80685   Tenpoundbass   2017 Feb 8, 9:49am  

Those lazy cocksucers don't need an excuse to be useless.

80686   mell   2017 Feb 8, 9:53am  

Quigley says

What else can you expect from a Democrat Obama crony who destroyed any semblance of peace in Chicago while mayor?

He needs to look up the definition of "winning" because presiding over the murder capital of the United States doesn't qualify.

Asshat!

True, but as despicable as he is, you got to give him credit for being pretty smart for himself. He cushioned himself with a nice taxpayer paid salary, fucking up whatever he wants to, and is just street smart enough to come around with some "street talk" to keep him positioned whenever voices to fire him for his dreadful "job" swell up again.

80687   HEY YOU   2017 Feb 8, 9:53am  

They will know there's no difference when they lose their healthcare.
Enjoy being sick,suffering & dying.
REPEAL,IMMEDIATELY!
This is what you Republicans wanted.

RETARDS!

80688   Entitlemented   2017 Feb 8, 9:54am  

Ironman says

"Winning's everything," he said. "If you don't win, you can't make the public policy.

This shows immense nievity. Public policy growing stands in the way of progress of the private and public sector. If you measure winning as owning public policy, this is like admitting that government should be in control of the means of production, policy, rights, thoughts.

No wonder that Chicago is like a big multi hectacre open pit jail without bars. The leaders are intrinsically corrupt to human needs.

80689   Entitlemented   2017 Feb 8, 9:56am  

Quigley says

"winning" because presiding over the murder capital of the United States doesn't qualify.

This is exactly right. Hes losing, because its all about governance to improve human living, not worsening it. Is Ramn the cousin of Alinsky?

80690   lostand confused   2017 Feb 8, 10:20am  

What if one person who has 37 gender identities strikes-is it counted as one or 37 different persons??

80691   Ceffer   2017 Feb 8, 10:52am  

Deflowering heathens and then dispatching them to Allah is a Muslim sacrament!

80692   MisdemeanorRebel   2017 Feb 8, 10:58am  

"Heartbroken Rosie Ayliffe - Mia's mother - said 'any fool can shout "Allahu Akbar" [God is great] as they commit a crime' and blasted Trump for his comments."

Right, shouting Allah Akbar and stabbing another man as well as the girl doesn't smack of terrorism.

That's like saying a Black man running around saying "Kill the White Man" while stabbing Whites can't possibly be considered a hate crime because the Mom of the dead victim(s) says so.

It is fake news if I believe the DC Snipers were Terrorists, given the contents of their diary and the fact that they killed random people to spread fear?

80693   joeyjojojunior   2017 Feb 8, 11:10am  

Sure--and Patrick was on here bitching about how companies should have no right to stop their employees from expressing their opinions. I was just wondering when Patrick would be on here complaining about the Senate muzzling Warren.

80694   Shaman   2017 Feb 8, 12:50pm  

http://www.breitbart.com/news/1902-fistfight-gave-rise-to-arcane-rule-that-silenced-warren/

And here we have the reason for the rule.
But I don't suppose our resident Leftists will care for facts...

80695   joeyjojojunior   2017 Feb 8, 12:57pm  

"And here we have the reason for the rule. But I don't suppose our resident Leftists will care for facts..."

You think that somehow makes it OK to stifle free speech? How do you figure?

80696   RWSGFY   2017 Feb 8, 1:03pm  

lostand confused says

What if one person who has 37 gender identities strikes-is it counted as one or 37 different persons??

Can be counted as multiple only if that person pulls 37 paychecks from the same employer.

80697   joshuatrio   2017 Feb 8, 1:13pm  

Ironman says

So, you have no rules or guidelines at work you have to follow??

Oh wait, you're unemployed, so apparently not.

Best line of the day. Thank you for the laugh.

80698   Y   2017 Feb 8, 1:50pm  

She had her say aplenty.
She was hogging the mike so had to be scalped...
joeyjojojunior says

You think that somehow makes it OK to stifle free speech? How do you figure?

80699   CBOEtrader   2017 Feb 8, 2:16pm  

Allowing a majority of senators to decide who to gag does seems dicey... Although her grandstanding was just divisive, unproductive dribble. Just flaming so she can feed soundbitez to her trollish supporters. She needed to be gagged.

80700   Y   2017 Feb 8, 2:22pm  

This is what you get for not calling radical islam by it's true name.

80701   Y   2017 Feb 8, 2:23pm  

Obama has the world in denial now...

80702   MisdemeanorRebel   2017 Feb 8, 2:24pm  

We live in a country where a White, probably Polish with his big 'Stache, chief of police, tried to wish a kidnapping and torture away as "Stupid Mistake" instead of a brutal, race-fueled hate crime. At least he was pressured into making it a hate crime - for the disability.

80703   MisdemeanorRebel   2017 Feb 8, 2:29pm  

Tim Aurora says

Australian man, 18, who raped a 16-year-old girl during student exchange trip to Iceland reunites with his victim years later...

Is this the one where they were boyfriend and girlfriend and she was groggy and he did her anyway? And she didn't resist at all? Yeah, whatta rape. $$$$$$ Confirmation Bias Raep Culture Lecture Circuit $$$$$

I raped you?
Well, I got $2000 for a one hour distorted rant, about the "worst thing that ever happened to me", but if you join up to confirm my story and APOLOGIZE, SHITLORD! with me every night then we can charge $5000 per session throughout Colleges in the Europe and the USA and split it.
Oh yeah, I raped you! Much better than pumping gas in Petersborough! I hit the jackpot, cobber!

80704   joeyjojojunior   2017 Feb 8, 2:31pm  

"Although her grandstanding was just divisive, unproductive dribble. Just flaming so she can feed soundbitez to her trollish supporters. She needed to be gagged."

We are talking about the Senate, right? Isn't this pretty much every speech on every day there?

80705   Shaman   2017 Feb 8, 3:14pm  

He's just a run of the mill petty dictator interested only in what he can get for himself, like they all are. Doing a "good job" is doing right by himself first and foremost, then his supporting coalition, then his friends, family, and if there's anything left, the people.

80706   BayArea   2017 Feb 8, 4:36pm  

Trump is a BS artist, but the liberal media arranged their own funeral during the election.

80707   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2017 Feb 8, 5:57pm  

The propaganda is working.

80708   MisdemeanorRebel   2017 Feb 8, 5:59pm  

The Billionaire Concentrated Legacy Media can't fight off foreign and alternative media offering alternative narratives and the Facts and Context omitted by the NYT and WaPo

80709   HEY YOU   2017 Feb 8, 9:40pm  

~326,000,000 minus ~ 80,000,000 younger than 18.
How did they have time to poll all of these?

80710   RealEstateIsBetterThanStocks   2017 Feb 8, 10:16pm  

Ironman says

Trump administration seen as more truthful than news media: Poll

no need for poll. the election result showed this.

80711   Rew   2017 Feb 8, 11:15pm  

Quigley, is that you?

80712   Y   2017 Feb 9, 6:15am  

You've obviously misunderstood the situation...

An object of the invention is to provide a missile-resistant garment adapted to be draped over the shoulders and fastened in the manner of a vest, to provide virtually complete protection for the body of the wearer, from neck to waist.

https://www.google.com/patents/US2748391

80713   joeyjojojunior   2017 Feb 9, 8:00am  

Yes, because only poor people are allowed to speak about the huge inequality problem in the US.

80714   indigenous   2017 Feb 9, 8:00am  

Ironman says

Oh, now we know, why.... hypocritical Liberal... yes, she's all about the "little people"....

Hypocrisy correlates to unethical behavior, the hypocrisy is strong in this one.

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