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81483   Shaman   2017 Mar 1, 10:16am  

Fascists always accuse others of the very crimes of which they themselves are guilty!
How's the tiny mustache working for you, Jazz?

81484   Dan8267   2017 Mar 1, 10:25am  

The people in the picture literally simply switched political parties. Today's Republicans are yesterday's Dixiecrats. It's not the name of the political party that matters. The American South has always been evil because it's always been religious. It's improving as Christianity loses power, but the South won't be good until Christianity is dead regardless of which political party they control.

81485   Tenpoundbass   2017 Mar 1, 10:25am  

jazz music says

My world is a melting pot of cultures and traditions. I went to Coos Bay Oregon a few times and I could not believe the extreme dominance of fair skinned caucasians. I felt like I had gone to Ireland they way people all around me looked. And it was like another planet to me.

Yes I feel the same way when I leave South Florida and go to North Florida. There is no Latin stores, Korean stores, Caribbean stores, Public doesn't have a shelf with Jerk Chicken spices and other Jamaican flavors. It's back to meat loaf and Mac Cheese from a box when I go there.

jazz music says

Traditionally hispanic people are extra generous with their food

Most people are generally when it comes to their traditional food.
If you are having a picnic next to a family of Pakistanis(or any nationality) in a public park. There's a good chance one of the people from that party are going to wander over and get you to try their BBQ Goat dish or what ever it is.

81486   Dan8267   2017 Mar 1, 10:29am  

FP says

Trump and his circle of advisors, or those who oppose and attack him most actively.

Not much difference. It's two tribes of conservatives warring with each other. Let them weaken each other while liberals build a new political party either by reforming the DNC or breaking with the Democrats and destroying that party. The latter scenario is much harder, but it could happen. The new party would have to take over most Democratic seats in Congress first while letting the Republicans have the White House for years. Once the new party has the former Democratic seats, it could take the White House and the most of the remaining seats from the Republicans. Again, taking over the Democratic Party would be easier, but if that fails, we have a fallback plan.

81487   zzyzzx   2017 Mar 1, 10:51am  

Dan8267 says

Name one liberal policy that has not worked.

The War on Poverty.

81489   zzyzzx   2017 Mar 1, 11:07am  

jazz music says

Many of the war on poverty's programs — like Medicaid, Medicare, food stamps, Head Start, Job Corps, VISTA and Title I — are still in place today. The Nixon administration largely dismantled the OEO, distributing its functions to a variety of other federal agencies, and eventually the office was renamed in 1975 and then shuttered for good in 1981.

5. Did it reduce poverty, actually?

http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/12/29/14112084/war-on-poverty-brooklyn-great-society
Why the war on poverty failed — and what to do now

http://www.heritage.org/poverty-and-inequality/report/the-war-poverty-after-50-years
The lack of progress in building self-sufficiency since the beginning of the War on Poverty 50 years ago is due in major part to the welfare system itself.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/louiswoodhill/2014/03/19/the-war-on-poverty-wasnt-a-failure-it-was-a-catastrophe/

Has the War on Poverty been a failure? Well, of course it has. If you devote 50 years and $21.5 trillion (in 4Q2013 dollars) to anything, and people are arguing about whether it was a success or a failure, then you can be sure that it was a failure.

The stated goal of the War on Poverty, as enunciated by Lyndon Johnson on January 8, 1964, was, “…not only to relieve the symptom of poverty, but to cure it and, above all, to prevent it.” Measured against this objective, the War on Poverty has not just been a failure, it has been a catastrophe. It was supposed to help America’s poor become self-sufficient, and it has made them dependent and dysfunctional.

81490   Tenpoundbass   2017 Mar 1, 12:05pm  

jazz music says

Tenpoundbass says

Thug from the Murderous culture Chicago, a Kenyan refugee

OMG You really believe that bullshit don't you?

You really think CNN believes Russia made Trump win? Or that he is a Nazi, or that Bannon is this real evil guy(Anymore so than that treacherous bitch Clinton anyway)
Or that Trump supporters are racist mean spirited biggots. Who so far after 18 months of political campaigning has not created a vicious rabble but the Liberals have countless times. Plus there is actual proof Soros is funding most of the agitation. Just imagine has this gone on under Obama. He would have called out the national guard by then.
I'm popping pop corn when Trump calls them out.

81491   Shaman   2017 Mar 1, 1:54pm  

http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/oct/5/obama-administration-hires-hundreds-pr-staffers/jazz music says

Who in the world besides Putin and Trump has their own propaganda ministry?

Seems like Obama wasn't shy about hiring people to push his agenda. He fits literally every single category of fascism you listed, minus the sexist bit which was pretty debatable anyway. But somehow the big D behind his name makes that invisible to your "scholarly" mind?
My personal belief is that you've been watching and listening to far too much mainstream media globalist propaganda and they've grabbed your pussy hard.

81492   CL   2017 Mar 1, 2:05pm  

Pentagon was number 1, even under the Obama, who we must remember was a weak leader. He didn't even have a terror attack on US soil for America's Mayor to elevate himself upon!

However, it proves that the Pentagon is always the problem, and doesn't need more money, like Fearless Leader is advocating, eh?

81493   Dan8267   2017 Mar 1, 2:23pm  

zzyzzx says

The War on Poverty.

How is that a liberal policy? And exactly what policy are you referring to?

The War on Drugs is a policy as it is a specific legal stance of criminalizing drug use and assuming the intent to distribute, a blatant violation of the prosecutor's burden of proof.

81494   Dan8267   2017 Mar 1, 2:26pm  

jazz music says

5. Did it reduce poverty, actually?

It did. A recent study from economists at Columbia broke down changes in poverty before and after the government gets involved in the form of taxes and transfers, and found that, when you take government intervention into account, poverty is down considerably from 1967 to 2012, from 26 percent to 16 percent

Yes, progressive policies to combat poverty have worked. Poverty will never be extinguished in a capitalism society because capitalism demands poverty to make labor cheap and to allow the owners to have as large of a piece of the pie as possible. But that doesn't mean the progressive policies haven't alleviated poverty considerably.

Nonetheless, progressivism and liberalism are two entirely different and unrelated things. I don't think zzyzzx understands that.

81495   Dan8267   2017 Mar 1, 2:27pm  

jazz music says

Tenpoundbass says

Russia made Trump win?

I thought Hillary did. She and the super delegates and Debbie Wasserman Schultz.

81496   Shaman   2017 Mar 1, 3:05pm  

Hasn't VOA just always been American propaganda? Of course the executive sets the tone.
And honestly I can't imagine any propaganda to be any more pervasive, shrill, and adamantly one-sided than the MSM has been for the last two years. It's been such a disgrace that the grand majority of Americans distrust the media by sheer reflex now. But there are some who still eat it up.

I remember my grandpa when my mom suggested changing the channel during the evening news hour: "It's the News!" Meaning of course that it was obviously the most important thing to be watching at any given moment. Perhaps you are in that cohort. The older generations are about the only ones still watching.

81497   NDrLoR   2017 Mar 1, 3:40pm  

Dan8267 says

progressive policies to combat poverty have worked

They're certainly working in Venezuela.

81498   Booger   2017 Mar 1, 5:58pm  

81499   anonymous   2017 Mar 1, 6:08pm  

yep :)

81500   Rew   2017 Mar 1, 6:39pm  

Yes, the shear amazingness of the Donald is buoying all markets everywhere. The fundamentals are solid.

All that low skilled out of work struggling forgotten demographic is getting bigly rich off this market run up too. They all hold massive amounts of stock investments.

Next Trump will sneeze and millions of jobs will rain down upon the masses.

81501   MAGA   2017 Mar 1, 6:41pm  

Cheap money and easy credit. Lets see how long the Fed can keep up the market.

81502   Strategist   2017 Mar 1, 7:01pm  

Rew says

Yes, the shear amazingness of the Donald is buoying all markets everywhere. The fundamentals are solid.

All that low skilled out of work struggling forgotten demographic is getting bigly rich off this market run up too. They all hold massive amounts of stock investments.

Next Trump will sneeze and millions of jobs will rain down upon the masses.

ha ha ha
The question is......are we better off now, than we were 4 months ago?

81503   Booger   2017 Mar 1, 7:18pm  

81504   RealEstateIsBetterThanStocks   2017 Mar 1, 10:05pm  

LOTS and LOTS of cash were sitting on the sidelines.

investors did not trust in Obama's abilities. now they are happy they have dodged a bullet that is Hillary.

81505   Shaman   2017 Mar 1, 10:13pm  

That is the thing. Investors are ready to invest in America, now. In Trump we trust.

81506   RealEstateIsBetterThanStocks   2017 Mar 1, 10:16pm  

i don't see the stock going down from now until end of 2018 Q1.

if iPhone 8 is a hit, this rally should continue even longer.

81507   RealEstateIsBetterThanStocks   2017 Mar 1, 10:30pm  

why do liberal women hate the only politicians who wants to protect them from illegal rapists?

do they WANT to get raped by illegal savages?

81508   Rew   2017 Mar 2, 12:01am  

Ironman says

Yep, just like they (the 47% of Obama voters Romney referenced) did during the 7 year Obama recovery.
Oh wait....

So you're confirming Trump hasn't done anything for these so called 'forgotten people'. I agree.

- 54 billion in military spending goes where? Virginia/D.C. defense contractors. Great. Why? What new threat? Yemen?
- De-regulation does what? Increase wages? No. Create jobs? No. Line the pockets of corporations? You bet.
- 1 trillion in domestic spending on roads. I can get behind that. Know who won't? Republicans. "Public and private" companies to be funded = corruption in the Trump-era.

Ironman says

You have that confused with the massive amounts of college debt and national debt Obama laid on them.

See proposed spending above. Trump has a no affordable college education plan and 'balanced budget' wasn't even part of his pretense of political vocabulary last night. That's actually a big departure. He is no fiscal conservative.

Ironman says

Finally, you're waking up. Are you mad because you missed the 3000 point run-up since the election? Maybe you need to get into your company 401K?

I'm well taken care of there. I didn't vote out of pure self interest.
I voted for sanity, decorum, and American exceptionalism. So, not Trump.

Strategist says

The question is......are we better off now, than we were 4 months ago?

We rush to ruin, waving our flag, shouting platitudes, and shunning intellect as we descend and retreat. Trump is erraticism, divisiveness, and anything but steady as he rips the breaks off the economy and pushes us down a hill. Things will feel good initially, until we crash.

81509   Blurtman   2017 Mar 2, 5:26am  

Ironman says

Mexican man charged with rape had 19 deportations, removals

Why do you hate immigrants?

81510   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2017 Mar 2, 7:09am  

Hater says

Would not a true believer be a hypocrite for owning and operating a car?

No. They would be a hypocrite for commuting 70 miles each day in a gas guzzler, but forgoing a car is something that a dedicated few will do. Believing that this is a problem and thinking that the government should do what it can to help find and implement solutions is completely congruent with using the typical tools of today.

81511   Dan8267   2017 Mar 2, 7:43am  

Hater says

Dan8267 says

Climate change is first and foremost a moral issue. It is the greatest moral issue of our time.

Would not a true believer be a hypocrite for owning and operating a car?

No. I'm all for phasing out combustible engines, a carbon tax, a methane tax, and an elimination of coal power plants, a major source of pollution.

The typical climate change denier response is always the false dichotomy that if you cannot immediately eliminate every single bit of pollution, you should not do anything to limit pollution. This is utter bullshit. It's like saying that if you cannot immediately stop all terrorism, you should do absolutely nothing about terrorism.

There are very real, concrete steps we can take to limit and ultimately eliminate pollution, mitigate climate change, and stop the wholesale mass extinction going on right now. To say we should do nothing because we cannot immediately convert over all our infrastructure away from gas-powered cars is an immoral and disingenuous claim.

81512   Dan8267   2017 Mar 2, 7:46am  

Hater says

Would you agree that overpopulation is the main contributer?

Main? No. The fact that pollution generation is not remotely distributed proportional to population density empirically disproves that hypothesis.

However, overpopulation for a given technology level most certainly is a factor. Nonetheless, parasitic and short-sighted financial incentives are the main factor.

81513   Dan8267   2017 Mar 2, 7:47am  

YesYNot says

Believing that this is a problem and thinking that the government should do what it can to help find and implement solutions is completely congruent with using the typical tools of today.

Exactly. Symbolic gestures means nothing. What matters are practical solutions.

81514   Dan8267   2017 Mar 2, 7:48am  

Hater says

How is it broken? A true believer posted it on patnet.

So "true believer" is now code for "I can't refute your argument so I'll make an ad hominem attack that you are crazy". Not a convincing argument.

81515   zzyzzx   2017 Mar 2, 7:52am  

I would still rate this at the rumor level:
http://acprimetime.com/hard-rock-buy-taj-mahal-casino-atlantic-city-boardwalk/

Hard Rock Entertainment is buying the shuttered Trump Taj Mahal casino on the Atlantic City Boardwalk.

As ACprimetime reported last week, all indications (plenty of trusted tips) pointed to Hard Rock having substantial interest in buying this massive Atlantic City property from owner Carl Icahn. An obvious clue was witnessing the popular Hard Rock Cafe keeping up operations with their Boardwalk front property, even as the adjacent casino hotel was shut down.

Neighboring Steel Pier and their soon-to-be erected Observation Wheel will certainly benefit from this great news. On the other hand, we believe Glenn Straub’s shuttered REVEL property just took a valuation hit. As for SHOWBOAT HOTEL, owner Bart Blatstein & his Tower Investments along the Boardwalk are looking rosier.

Billionaire Carl Icahn is selling the shuttered Trump Taj Mahal casino in Atlantic City to Hard Rock International and two New Jersey investors. Hard Rock International Announces Partnership with Morris and Jingoli Families to Purchase Atlantic City’s Taj Mahal

Hard Rock International will be majority owner of the rebranded Hard Rock Hotel & Casino Atlantic City in partnership with the Morris and Jingoli families. The group will invest more than $300 million to purchase, substantially renovate and re-open the casino.

The partnership, majority controlled by Hard Rock International, will transform the existing Taj Mahal with a complete remodel and rebrand of the property that is located on 17-acres of prime Boardwalk real estate, offering guestrooms with views of the city and ocean in the building once named the 8th wonder of the world.

81516   indigenous   2017 Mar 2, 7:57am  

I agree, FDR created regime uncertainty which kept investors at bay throughout his reign. This had more to do with the great depression than anything else.

Similar to what we are seeing now.

The caveat is if he goes through with the tariffs, that would be huge mistake. The tax credits will also create a boom if they get though congress.

81517   zzyzzx   2017 Mar 2, 8:03am  

Confirmed elsewhere:
http://money.cnn.com/2017/03/01/news/companies/trump-taj-mahal-sale/

Trump Taj Mahal purchased by Hard Rock

http://www.philly.com/philly/business/Hard-Rock-in-deal-to-buy-Trump-Taj-Mahal.html

No sale price was announced, but Hard Rock International said its group would invest more than $300 million to buy, renovate, and reopen the 17-acre resort.

Mayor Don Guardian said Hard Rock brought the needed expertise in the gaming industry. It was a "perfect fit for Atlantic City right now," he added.

Hard Rock International runs 11 casinos, 24 hotels, and 174 cafes around the world.

Guardian said he expected a grand reopening in the summer of 2018.

"It's a tired property. It was the jewel of Atlantic City when it opened in [1990]. Now it needs work," he said.

President Trump has not been materially involved in recent years, other than allowing his name to be used.

81518   MisdemeanorRebel   2017 Mar 2, 8:56am  

Russia hacked the election is the Pizzagate of the Neoliberals. It requires no evidence for initial belief. In fact, neoliberals believe it first and are desperately jumping on anything that might remotely help correlate their narrative second.

I'm sure it had nothing to do with Hillary not visiting key states once since the Primaries, slamming about half of America as Racist, Sexist, Misogynist, Deplorables, and being endorsed by every Neocon from Bill Kristol to "W" himself..

81519   MMR   2017 Mar 2, 10:30am  

zzyzzx says

No sale price was announced, but Hard Rock International said its group would invest more than $300 million to buy, renovate, and reopen the 17-acre resort.

Mayor Don Guardian said Hard Rock brought the needed expertise in the gaming industry. It was a "perfect fit for Atlantic City right now," he added.

Hard Rock International runs 11 casinos, 24 hotels, and 174 cafes around the world.

Forgive me for not sharing your enthusiasm regarding AC.

I once stayed at a hard rock hotel in Orlando near universal. I have to say, I was impressed by the prices but not the overall trashy crowd that frequents what is otherwise an expensive hotel.

Breakfast was quite good though and the fitness center and sauna were decent.

Other than that, not worth 300+ per night.

Still I think at best, they will put some competitive pressure on borgata but outside short term, doubt they will cause people to cruise up from Baltimore, PA, NY, New England in any significant numbers

Prior to borgata best restaurant in casino was hooters at trump Marina; hard rock from culinary standpoint still would be below borgata

81520   zzyzzx   2017 Mar 2, 11:04am  

MMR says

Other than that, not worth 300+ per night.

Still I think at best, they will put some competitive pressure on borgata but outside short term, doubt they will cause people to cruise up from Baltimore, PA, NY, New England in any significant numbers

Prior to borgata best restaurant in casino was hooters at trump Marina; hard rock from culinary standpoint still would be below borgata

If you spent $300 a night to stay in AC, then you don't know how to shop. My stay at the Taj last June was less than $100, even with parking. You are forgetting that Hard Rock probably paid very little for the Taj, and there is always going to be a demand for rooms at the beach. At least in Atlantic City, the demand is year round on weekends as well. You can't say that for anyplace else on the shore.

How did the Hooters in Trump Marina compare to the Hooters in the Tropicana? Quite frankly, I'd rather go to Adam Good Sports Bar if I am at the Trop.

81521   Dan8267   2017 Mar 2, 1:10pm  

Hater says

No. True believer is a person that instead of debating the facts calls the other person an idiot or a denier for not believing climate models that foretell massive human extinction if we don't cut back on carbon production.

That's hyperbole. However, one does not "debate facts". One uses facts in a debate. The facts are verifiable. You don't get to make up your own.

It is a fact that man-made climate change is happening, that it is increasing exponentially, and that it has already resulted in real world consequences like the lost of inhabited land and changes to agriculture.

Dan8267 says

The typical climate change denier response is always the false dichotomy that if you cannot immediately eliminate every single bit of pollution, you should not do anything to limit pollution. This is utter bullshit. It's like saying that if you cannot immediately stop all terrorism, you should do absolutely nothing about terrorism.

Hater says

like that

I stand by my statement. It is empirically true.

Hater says

Are there any practical solutions that the whole world will agree to?

The whole world doesn't agree that rape, genocide, slavery, or terrorism should be illegal. Does that mean we should not do anything to stop any of those things?

If it helps you, just think of climate change as Islamic terrorism. I guarantee that climate change and pollution will take far more years off your life personally than terrorism will.

[stupid comment limit]

81522   Dan8267   2017 Mar 2, 1:12pm  

Hater says

For example?

If I took ran a factory at my house and dumped all the waste onto your yard and it seeped into your drinking water and caused you health problems, you'd probably be pretty pissed off at me. The fact that doing so saves me a lot of money and thus increases my profit margins doesn't really matter to you. Why should it be any different for coal power plants? They release pollution that enters the food supply and causes all sorts of health problems.

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