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How have Clif High's predictions been? You follow his actual track record?

Not much. I find him interesting, thats all.

He hit the market crash of '08 out of the park. I just started following about him again since he's making huge predictions for this coming year.

I find his webbot bigdata method very interesting, but am very hesitant to put much into his forecasts. I think he accurately identifies social/internet buzz around an idea though.

His ideas about silver are particularly interesting to me. He refers to the last two sentences of Trumps speech last week wherein Trump mentions secret govt technology to be released to the public. According to Clif, this is evidence of a massive technology shift which will eat up the world's silver supply. He forecasts that silver will be at parity with gold in 5 years. Parity sounds like madness to me, but the technology trend is a legit theory... im buying some silver leaps :)

thanks Patrick for the "trick"

CBOEtrader says

According to Clif, this is evidence of a massive technology shift which will eat up the world's silver supply. He forecasts that silver will be at parity with gold in 5 years.

I can tell you from that alone the guy is a fortune teller, not a market analyst. Silver will outperform gold in terms of gain per oz, but not in terms of actual value. And timeline is closer to 3 years max. This is from someone who has been analyzing metals values for a living for over 30 years.

I think real crashes like 08 are so rare that by default I always ignore those doom and gloom types. Most corrections like last year end up being buys. Whenever the market picks up significantly they all come out of the closet. SLV yeah.

NuttBoxer says

the guy is a fortune teller

lol!

so true

SubOink says

I think real crashes like 08 are so rare

Since our latest central bank was given it's charter, there have been wide market swings and crashes pretty much every decade:

Federal Reserve charted in 1913
1920's recession post WWI
1930's recession post wild speculation during 20's fueled by FR
1940's recession post WWII
1950's recession post Korea
1970's recession post Vietnam
1980's SNL
1990's dotCom
2008 housing
2010's ...

War and transfer of wealth, the lifeblood of central banks!

NuttBoxer says

War and transfer of wealth, the lifeblood of central banks!

Come on now you are spoiling the Wogster's narrative...

There is no fight. Wars in general do little to affect the flow of genes and even facilitate it. Because you don't "just kill" 800,000 people. Think 5 billions people in Africa by the end of the century. Whites will disappear within 200-300yrs, first by mixing with immigrants, then by being overwhelmed by the raw numbers of continuing immigration. The whites will leave behind a fraction of the human gene pool, probably a just bit more than neanderthals. There is nothing Bannon can do about it.

Heraclitusstudent says

then by being overwhelmed by the raw numbers of continuing immigration

That part could easily be stopped. Britain has taken a step in that direction by leaving the EU.

Americans have the right to determine who is allowed into America, using whatever basis they wish.

In fact, every country has that right.

http://fortune.com/2017/03/09/starbucks-refugee-hiring-backlash/

Hiring Rapefugees Is Hurting Starbucks’ Brand, Analysts Say

Starbucks' (sbux, -1.35%) decision to hire 10,000 rapefugees at locations worldwide is hurting the coffee giant's brand and could impact earnings, analysts say.

Credit Suisse issued a hold rating on Starbucks, noting "significant volatility in recent weeks," CNBC reports. According to YouGov BrandIndex, consumer perception levels for the company have fallen by two-thirds since late January.

While perception of the world's largest coffee chain is still positive overall, it is significantly lower than it was prior to CEO Howard Schultz's pledge to hire rapefugees in response to President Trump's executive order barring refugees from certain countries.

In response to Starbucks' rapefugee hiring plan, consumers who supported President Trump launched a boycott of the chain.

zzyzzx says

In response to Starbucks' refugee hiring plan, consumers who supported President Trump launched a boycott of the chain.

Yup! These people seem to think Trump got elected because Putin hacked the election. Trump really doesn't have the majority electorial vote.

This is why the world believes what the Washington Posts reports more than what Trump reports. Will there be some angry bird tweets, or has Trump moved onto bigger problems?

rando says

That part could easily be stopped. Britain has taken a step in that direction by leaving the EU.

People are moving from Africa to Europe and England by boat all the time (when not just walking). They will come by the millions and you can't stop them unless you are willing to shoot people, women and children, indiscriminately, by the thousands. And watch them being killed or starve on the other side, maybe by the million.
The moral core of the west dictates we can't resist, and so we won't.

"Total viewing audience" is not the same thing as "inauguration crowd". They are talking apples and oranges. Washpost either doesnt care, or they are too retarded to understand basic words.

The inauguration crowd estimate discrepancy is at most 1 million people. 1.5 million is the top end of Trumps comment "It looked like a million, 1.5 million people." 500 thousand seems to be the top end estimate of the washpost types. Ive heard estimates as low as 200k.

Regardless, 1 million people is less than 2% of the estimated total viewing audience.

Team Trump's claim is that the total viewing audience was the largest ever at over 60 million. They provided facts to support this claim.

Estimating total viewing audience to be larger than BO's still seems dubious to me. However, to keep posting these pictures as evidence that trump lied is total fake news. It is totally and completely ignoring what was stated and instead creating a fake narrative.

Thanks for sharing MSM fake news. Just another data point.

The same experts that just admitted they lied, did not present accurate facts, nor did they weigh in with this information when it was an issue. Now for them to drag how they were dishonest, does not show Us how dishonest Trump is. Not in any stretch of the imagination.

CBOEtrader says

However, to keep posting these pictures as evidence that trump lied is total fake news. It is totally and completely ignoring what was stated and instead creating a fake narrative.

The facts are that these pictures went out and the news correctly reported that Trump's in person crowd size was much smaller than Barack Obama's.

Here's what Trump did:
Had Spicer to a press conference and state that photographs were intentionally framed in a way to make Trump's crowd look small. He referred to this crowd as enormous. He said it was the first time that floor coverings were used on the mall, and that was false. He said that no one had crowd size numbers, because the NPS doesn't issue those. That's not true. Other people can make and report crowd estimates. He also stated that it was the biggest audience to ever witness an inauguration period. Both in person and around the globe. That was false. The audience in person was not the largest. He then said that all of these attempts to lessen the enthusiasm are shameful and wrong.
Had Priebus go on the Sunday shows to claim: "The point is the attacks and the attempt to de-legitimize this president in one day, and we're not going to sit around and take it."

IMO, the only thing that was shameful and wrong about that whole event was Spicer's press conference, which was riddled with lies. It was shameful, because he was attacking the press for reporting the truth, as these new photographs show. The 'narrative' that I see is that Trump was upset about his image and threw a hugely public temper tantrum as his first act as president.

Trump's estimate of 1 to 1.5 million people in person was ridiculous. It was worded as 'it looked like...,' so it wasn't necessarily a lie. But it was either a lie, or shows that he is personally willing to go with his gut about things he knows nothing about. I'm going with the latter.

Tim Aurora says

it would be illegal.

According to what law?

Tim Aurora says

Trump's bill did not stand the "religion" criteria and was struck down by justice department.

Nominated.

You have apparently relied on fake news instead of reading the actual court decisions. The Department of Justice (aka DoJ or "justice department") defended the Executive Order. Opponents chose courts that granted temporary restraining orders delaying enforcement. Rather than await years of litigation, the President issued a new Executive Order, which will most likely take effect next week.

Thanks for the clarification @curious2 !

Tim Aurora says

You did not wait till I corrected my statement from DOJ to Judge.

I will wait until you correct your statement from "illegal" to "legal."

NuttBoxer says

CBOEtrader says

According to Clif, this is evidence of a massive technology shift which will eat up the world's silver supply. He forecasts that silver will be at parity with gold in 5 years.

I can tell you from that alone the guy is a fortune teller, not a market analyst. Silver will outperform gold in terms of gain per oz, but not in terms of actual value. And timeline is closer to 3 years max. This is from someone who has been analyzing metals values for a living for over 30 years.

What're your thoughts on the technology to wildly increase silver demand theory?

Tim Aurora says

For all said and done Canada does it, based on competency. However, it cannot be based on race or religion directly otherwise it would be illegal.

Age is also a factor in their points system. Which means if you are over 35 or so (IIRC) you have practically no chance to be admitted all you competence notwithstanding.

Time to compare trading accounts :) whip em out fellas... I kid I kid

gold is 100% speculation.

1200 is a good level to buy. Maybe it gets down to 11-251150 if 10 years go to 3%. I don't think the world can handle US rates above 3%, not when oil can't stay above 50.

go there if you want some free suicide bombings to go with your morning coffee.

Legal refugees, that Starbucks wants to help ... yeah, that sounds like something someone should oppose. (eye roll)

And really you hurt the 8,000+ vets (and counting) Starbucks already hired, but do what you feel is right.

I think it is xenophobic dip-shittery. To each their own.

RealEstateIsBetterThanStocks says

go there if you want some free suicide bombings to go with your morning coffee.

Wake me when one happens.

Tenpoundbass says

Yup! These people seem to think Trump got elected because Putin hacked the election. Trump really doesn't have the majority electorial vote.

Oh for crying out loud! LOL

Trump won the electoral college ... much to his, the world, the nations, and his campaigns surprise. There is enough smoke in Russian ties, and enough undisclosed information from Trump, to warrant an independent investigation.

That's all.

You know, Obama's justice department interrogated the hell out of Hillary for far less. Obama DID that.

The rest is just deliciously embarrassing, like this little gem ...

http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/3/7/14843204/new-photos-park-service-obama-inauguration-bigger-trump

... which really hurts you, doesn't it?

Call it fake news. Come on ... let me hear it ... (holds hand up to ear)

zzyzzx says

In response to Starbucks' rapefugee hiring plan, consumers who supported President Trump launched a boycott of the chain.

And just like my new news subscriptions, my donations to PP and the ACLU, I've upped my Starbucks activity even more.

Tell me what you hate Trumpthuglicans. I'll happily go support it.

PS logistically you could sell USD/MXN buy USD/CAD if you are looking to speculate.
Both should follow natural correlation patterns. More ramble.

Ironman says

http://www.foxnews.com/food-drink/2017/02/02/coffee-company-takes-on-starbucks-refugee-plan-pledges-to-hire-10000-veterans.html

Starbucks is already over 8,000 vets in recent hiring push they made. They have way more than that company wide.

Training for a surprised expression? (Guess)

Half the US and Australia no more. :(

Florida is projected to be underwater anyway. Har-har.

Wrinkle smile line junk? Lol

Cheek muscles!

(Facial muscle toning)

Fake news

As a shareholder I'm ticked off they got into politics.

$2.50 for a cup of 0.05 c coffee. Isnt this anti progressive price gouging?

Your all democrats if you support this!