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83083   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2017 May 1, 10:07am  

The dishonest media should have reported this as the major negotiation victory (for the world's best negotiator) that it was. That way, he'd be happy about it and excited to go for his round 2 victory.

Seriously, I thought that Trump losing the election in 2016 would break the Republican party. They seem to be broken badly enough for Trump's victory to ruin things. There is just not enough unity in the party to agree on much of anything. Hopefully, it will stay that way, but I'm not totally confident that will happen.

83084   Tenpoundbass   2017 May 1, 10:37am  

Yup that's what Tax cuts do.
I would prefer the poor hungry and driven in a healthy economy. Rather than kept underfed in a Socialist zero sum game.

Let the billionaires employ the poor.

83085   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2017 May 1, 10:46am  

Did not read, but the title of your thread is painfully stupid.

83086   Strategist   2017 May 1, 10:56am  

jazz music says

TRUMP TAX PLAN TO GIVE TRILLIONS FROM WORKING FAMILIES TO THE RICHEST FAMILIES

How can that be when everyone gets a tax cut?

83087   RWSGFY   2017 May 1, 10:58am  

jazz music says

At the same time, lower- and middle-income families could be in a worse position. The White House proposes to reduce the number of tax brackets from seven to three: 10, 25 and 35 percent. But no one yet knows where the income cutoff lines are being drawn. People who end up being pushed into a lower bracket would be better off, but those kicked into a higher bracket would not be.

Families with after-tax income between roughly $19,000 and $76,000, for example, are now in the 15 percent marginal tax bracket, which is slated for elimination.

“That’s where the middle of America is,” Mr. Kleinbard said. While some may drop into the new 10 percent bracket, others could be nudged up into the 25 percent range.

Translation: nobody knows nothing, but let's pretend our wild-ass guesses is the truth.

83088   Heraclitusstudent   2017 May 1, 11:15am  

jazz music says

Repealing the estate tax, for example, would affect just 5,300 or so fortunes a year. For 2017, couples can shield up to $11 million of their estates from any taxation, leaving only the largest inheritances subject to taxation.

If we were a meritocracy, estate tax would be 90% across the board.
Each person would start from roughly the same square.
Plus rich old people would be actually spending like crazy to finish at 0.

83089   joeyjojojunior   2017 May 1, 12:09pm  

Trump believers are truly a cult.

83090   Dan8267   2017 May 1, 1:01pm  

jazz music says

puts you in the category of being a John Locke LIBERAL

I'm definitively a John Locke liberal. That guy was a genius.

83091   anonymous   2017 May 1, 1:01pm  

Sounds just terrible - An obvious Sell!!

:) :)

83092   FortWayne   2017 May 1, 1:08pm  

Left is defined by their representatives, BLM, feminists, la raza, and all the rest of the prominent liberals who hate success. Your Bernie boy has conviction and heart, but he's full of shit and hates everyone who makes 6 figures and up, dumbass even criticized Obama because left wing voters worship poverty and failure.

jazz music says

FortWayne says

The left is known for hating successful people.

I remind you that the left is well defined by John Locke, not by Rush Limbaugh. You might consider that those who want to live a parasitical existence at the expense of all us productive people would want to discredit the very philosophy that should unite us all against them.

If you are against slavery that automatically puts you in the category of being a John Locke LIBERAL Since you are subscribing to his philosophy and I quote:

Locke believed that people had natural rights to “life, liberty, and property”, and that the role of government was to preserve these rights. If a government does not preserve these rights, then the people have a right to change their government.

This is what scholars refer to as the political theory of Liberalism. Liberalism in this sense differs from the way the...

83093   Dan8267   2017 May 1, 1:15pm  

FortWayne says

Left is defined by their representatives, BLM, feminists, la raza, and all the rest of the prominent liberals who hate success

Corrected that for you:

Left is defined by their representatives, BLM, feminists, la raza, and all the rest of the prominent liberals conservatives who hate success.

The conservative left's bullshit is indicative of conservatism in general, not of liberalism. The conservative left is as much the opposite of liberalism as the conservative right is. You don't get to put your cousin's crazy on my family. It's your inbred ideology that is at fault. The conservative left does not agree with a single principle of liberalism. Furthermore, they use the exact same tactics that the conservative right uses including
- book burning
- criminalizing behavior that should not be criminal
- lying about facts
- silencing dissent
- tribalism
- rewriting history

Christ, if I didn't know the specific arbitrary issues of the left and the right, I could not tell the two apart. They are virtually identical.

83094   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2017 May 1, 1:17pm  

The interview is hilarious. Trump has been doing this for years, though. He says something, then will not elaborate when asked wtf he means. That's because he is intentionally vague and his whole shtick falls apart when he has to be specific. The genius of this reporter was throwing the fake news bit into the mix.

83095   FortWayne   2017 May 1, 1:35pm  

Dan8267 says

Left is defined by their representatives, BLM, feminists, la raza, and all the rest of the prominent liberals conservatives who hate success.

Oh those are not conservatives Dan, those are the left buddy. That's your team. It's so bad that you are even ashamed of your own team. Your team is fucked up Dan, really fucked up.

83096   Y   2017 May 1, 1:38pm  

Everyone is guilty of inherited ancestral guilt.
Just commit yourself to hell and go find a handbasket..

83097   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2017 May 1, 1:56pm  

"I don't stand by anything" has to be one of his greatest word sequences to date.

83098   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2017 May 1, 2:01pm  

I don't think that the thread title is accurate. Spicey pants said effectively said:

Trump was asked to consider raising the gas tax, and he said that he would consider it.

Tim Aurora says

Democrats never had the guts to embrace it but that one policy has many advantages

Meanwhile, democrats tried to get this done in 2015, and met resistance from Republicans.

In any case, I'm all for it as stated in other threads. If he decides to try and can get it done, it would be a step in the right direction.

83099   Y   2017 May 1, 2:07pm  

Perfect.
Give the media the attention they deserve.
No one else could have done it better...

83100   MisdemeanorRebel   2017 May 1, 2:21pm  

Wait, I'm losing track of the narrative.

The NYT and others who ran multiple articles bragging that the Deep State was putting Trump Team in it's place and had (their words) "Wiretapped communications" (which implies a recorded conversation, therefore a wiretap in colloquial usage), criticized Trump's tweet about it, then admitted Rice captured at least Trump Team members and was sure to keep the the individuals' names who had "unintentionally captured conversations" unredacted before distributing to 17 different agencies to maximize leak potential. The non-standard unmasking and leaking happened during Obama's administration, and the buck stops with him. Indeed one of Obama's last EOs was to allow unmasked intel from FISA to be spread more widely. Now they are saying it never happened again?

Make up your minds, Media!

83101   Tenpoundbass   2017 May 1, 2:27pm  

Bernie Sanders told him how to do it right.
I hope he didn't forget to threaten them like good Ole' Bernie.
"You got a good interview there, you got 10 minutes don't edit it to make me look bad!"(as Bernie rips off mic and walks off interview)

83102   Blurtman   2017 May 1, 2:36pm  

The medium is the message.

83103   ChapulinColorado   2017 May 1, 2:58pm  

FAKE NEWS

83104   AllTruth   2017 May 1, 3:17pm  

I'm writing the biography of Trump's Presidency now.

It is titled 'Diary Of A Wimpy POTUS, Or, The Sound Of Fury Signifying Nothing, Or, All Hat And No Cattle."

83105   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2017 May 1, 3:26pm  

How about. 'brokepromise mountain'

83106   RWSGFY   2017 May 1, 3:50pm  

YesYNot says

Meanwhile, democrats tried to get this done in 2015, and met resistance from Republicans.

Who said it'll go trough this time?

83107   CBOEtrader   2017 May 1, 4:06pm  

Trump did the US a huge service by making FISA warrant courts and rampant intelligence overreach a household issue. Obama just used the powers available to him, the same as Trump will do with the 1984 tyranny machine. This is not a partisan issue, but the dems are so far up CNN's butt that they cant see past Trump.

83109   RWSGFY   2017 May 1, 4:20pm  

anonymous says

If it goes for the intended purpose (basic Infrastructure repair/upgrade and not to consultants, studies, and typical government boondoggles)

ROTFLMAO.

83110   Ceffer   2017 May 1, 4:48pm  

Everybody should wear secretary glasses.

83111   Bellingham Bill   2017 May 1, 6:07pm  

million shares is a nice dollar volume going up, too bad when the trap closes the volume goes away . . .

still, this is a possible double still I guess.

went from $130 in the red to $240 in the black, yeay

83112   Patrick   2017 May 1, 7:37pm  

It needs to be a tax on foreign oil most of all.

That would raise revenue, encourage American oil production, and reduce our dependence on the source of terrorism.

83113   WobblyMolly   2017 May 1, 7:53pm  

BlueSardine says

Damn, it took 287 posts to get a straight answer to a simple question...

Hater says

WobblyMolly says

If CO2 level reaches 450ppm, then that's a serious problem.

What happens?

This carbon concentration can cause continuous warming until we can't sustain it anymore. It seems like we are running out of time to keep the level of CO2 below 400 ppm

83114   Dan8267   2017 May 1, 7:55pm  

Donald Trump spent a year saying that NAFTA was the worse trade agreement ever. Now he's for staying in NAFTA. He conned you.

www.youtube.com/embed/okzRqADkzws

A man with bigger hands would have ended NAFTA.

83115   FortWayne   2017 May 1, 8:32pm  

jazz music says

All the other countries that have a high standard of living like we did before Reagan came along have strong unions, lower inequality and good access to health care.

You are more than welcome to live in those "paradises" and not America. But you won't, because those places suck if you actually work and live there. Now if you can take American earnings and spend in those countries, sure it makes sense. But you can't have it both ways, you liberals love to eat the cake and have it too.

83116   Patrick   2017 May 1, 8:38pm  

From my days working at Schwab long ago, I know that the worst performing stocks are those rated "strong buy" by the analysts (yes, really, it's the best negative indicator). The second worst are those rated "strong sell".

The best performing stocks are those rated hold, or not rated at all. So by this indication, ARLP has good prospects. Would be better if it had a slightly lower analyst rating, but at least it's not "strong buy".

83117   anonymous   2017 May 1, 9:35pm  

If this is the price of "Free Speech ", what value does free speech have?

83118   missing   2017 May 1, 9:41pm  

FortWayne says

jazz music says

All the other countries that have a high standard of living like we did before Reagan came along have strong unions, lower inequality and good access to health care.

You are more than welcome to live in those "paradises" and not America. But you won't, because those places suck if you actually work and live there.

The standard moronic reply.

Hey, FortWayne, I am a socialist and think America has a fucked up idiotic system (political, tax, health care, educational, etc.). But I like living here. The place is abundant with the likes of you, which gives me competitive advantage. Pretty, pretty good in a winner takes all society.

83119   anonymous   2017 May 1, 10:28pm  

rando says

From my days working at Schwab long ago, I know that the worst performing stocks are those rated "strong buy" by the analysts (yes, really, it's the best negative indicator). The second worst are those rated "strong sell".

The best performing stocks are those rated hold, or not rated at all. So by this indication, ARLP has good prospects. Would be better if it had a slightly lower analyst rating, but at least it's not "strong buy".

I m not so sure about that assessment. Apple has been a strong buy since around 115...and its 147 now. Outperforming the market by far.
I see a lot of strong buys for ARLP...

83120   Patrick   2017 May 1, 10:36pm  

It was just statistically true, not an absolute rule.

83121   Patrick   2017 May 1, 10:46pm  

So they can't help you either then.

Support for Trump is not entirely irrational. Did you read this one? https://patrick.net/1305439/2017-04-27-dems-need-to-abandon-davos-ideology

83122   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2017 May 2, 6:36am  

Hater says

How much time do you suppose we have left?

Do you think that you will be saved from the damages of climate change, because you believe in Jesus?

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