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83788   RWSGFY   2017 May 16, 2:26pm  

YesYNot says

If one person drives a Suburban 15K miles a year, it's not going to end the world. If everybody does it, it will make a dent. Same goes for frequent air travel.

I agree. Let's wait until everyone stops driving Suburbans to stop driving our. In meantime let's bitch and moan and post graphs.

83789   Dan8267   2017 May 16, 2:34pm  

bob2356 says

Article 1 section 8 of the constitution

...was made irrelevant after WWII.

83790   marcus   2017 May 16, 2:40pm  

Lashkar_i_Trumpi says

Do these people have a vested interest in preventing a "Border Tax"?

Tinfoil hat time. I guess that's progress, in a way.

83791   Dan8267   2017 May 16, 2:42pm  

You posted a reference to a joke long forgotten. Your actions divulge your obsession.

83792   Dan8267   2017 May 16, 2:44pm  

CBOEtrader says

These are anti free speech groups today: antifa, Youtube/Google/FB, SJW's, ISIS, top universitie

YouTube, Google, and to some extent Facebook, do not give a damn about speech content, but care deeply about advertiser dollars and advertisers don't want their products or companies associated with negative imagery, controversy, or anything else that would cause people to be less likely to make an emotional and unwise purchase. They care about money, not the content of speech. Even Facebook, which you can make some case likes to steer public opinion on politics, will gladly give in its principles to chase dollars like Republicans caving in on national security and Russia's sphere of influence to get deregulation and tax cuts for the wealthy.

Antifa, ISIS, and most universities are conservatives. They may be different tribes from the conservative right, but they believe in the same core principles and tactics. Just different flavors of the same shit. None of those three things are even remotely liberal. Milo Yiannopoulos is far more liberal than any of them. At least he believes in the free and open debating of ideas. That's essentially what liberalism is about, liberty.

83793   Dan8267   2017 May 16, 2:47pm  

I think I understand Trump's strategy. When the inevitable trial against him starts, he can plead insanity because no sane person would admit on television to committing multiple crimes. I think with the right lawyer, he'll get off.

83794   joeyjojojunior   2017 May 16, 2:51pm  

The funny thing is this latest story was leaked by Trump insider(s) and has been corroborated by Trump himself but yet you have the cultists on here blaming the media. It truly is bizzaro world.

83795   MisdemeanorRebel   2017 May 16, 2:56pm  

marcus says

Tinfoil hat time. I guess that's progress, in a way.

Yes, because Jeff Bezos and Carlos Slim are dedicated to American Workers' prosperity.

83796   marcus   2017 May 16, 2:58pm  

joeyjojojunior says

It truly is bizzaro world.

Post truth weirdness.

We're definitely getting closer and closer to the real Orwellian deal (1984).

83797   anonymous   2017 May 16, 3:00pm  

Thanks!

So, its a good chance to buy the stock at 0.44 lower if you want to tack on

83798   HEY YOU   2017 May 16, 4:38pm  

AGW will kill all of you.
Be careful who you piss-off. Too late!
Mother Nature is coming for your ass.

This is ~10,000 words with many links.
Many will not see this much info on C.C. in one place.

"As nearly as I can distinguish, only the latter three feedback processes are reversible at a temporal scale relevant to our species. Once you pull the tab on the can of beer, there’s no keeping the carbon dioxide from bubbling up and out. These feedbacks are not additive, they are multiplicative: They not only reinforce within a feedback, the feedbacks also reinforce among themselves (as realized even by Business Insider on 3 October 2013). Now that we’ve entered the era of expensive oil, I can’t imagine we’ll voluntarily terminate the process of drilling for oil and gas in the Arctic (or anywhere else). Nor will we willingly forgo a few dollars by failing to take advantage of the long-sought Northwest Passage or make any attempt to slow economic growth."

https://guymcpherson.com/climate-chaos/climate-change-summary-and-update/

83799   Dan8267   2017 May 16, 5:39pm  

More recent news. Netflix has pussied out and decided not to stream The Red Pill, obviously because they are worries about jackass SJW backlash. Quite frankly, anyone who is offended by this documentary is just plain evil. It's like being offended at Jews for Schindler's List.

The Red Pill: Netflix says no, Nimbin says yes

83800   FortWayne   2017 May 16, 5:43pm  

Left bans everything they don't like Dan, your team is out there Dan making freedom cry.

83801   CBOEtrader   2017 May 16, 5:51pm  

Rew says

But but ...

OBAMA WIRE TAPPED TRUMP!

BENGHAZI!

BIRTH CERTIFICATE!

SECRET MUSLIM!

SHE SMELLS OF SULFUR AND DEATH!

(laughing my ass off)

When facts and truth are on your side, what more can you do but laugh your ass off.

(my best Anderson Cooper eye roll goes here)

You literally have zero facts on your side. Show us facts for russia/trump collusion. Show us anything besides wild conjecture.

Seth Rich was actually murdered less than 2 weeks before the DNC leaks were published by wikileaks, hisfamily private detective ex- investigator is saying seth rich was emailing with wikileaks founder, DNC wont release their server to the FBI to check the only supposed evidence we have of russia hacking... These are all verifiable facts.

Compare that to your verifiable facts.

83802   CBOEtrader   2017 May 16, 5:57pm  

marcus says

joeyjojojunior says

It truly is bizzaro world.

Post truth weirdness.

We're definitely getting closer and closer to the real Orwellian deal (1984).

You believe a fantasy w zero factual support sold to you by talking heads, so yes we agree this is 1984.

83803   Dan8267   2017 May 16, 5:57pm  

Name one thing other than religion that I have proposed banning. Oh, and don't tell me you aren't for banning some religions like the Islamic ones.

Religion and liberty are mutually exclusive, and if I have to choose between freedom of religion, which we have never had, and free of speech, I'll choose the later. I would ban religion, not because I hate it, but because it infringes upon our rights and freedoms.

But go ahead, and try to name something I don't like that I've proposed banning. There are lots of things I don't like: cowboy hats, speedos, toupee, breast implants, rap and hip hop, every single sport ever created, murder porn news, police dramas, soap operas, every Justin Beaver song.

So, name the things I've proposed banning. Name the things Noam Chomsky proposed banning. Can't do that, can you? Every single argument you have ever made has been a straw man. That is why we can be certain your position is weak.

83804   MisdemeanorRebel   2017 May 16, 5:57pm  

Yep, folks, keep bringing up that server. It is THE place to start if you want evidence of Russian Hacking, the only potential physical evidence known and accessible. Why doesn't the DNC turn it over? Why, how could these endless rumors of Russian Hacking benefit them more than coming to a firm conclusion about it one way or the other?

WaPo: Comey cleared Flynn back in January
http://archive.is/noZI5

83805   CBOEtrader   2017 May 16, 5:59pm  

marcus says

I don't see hysterics. I see another data point.

There is no data. There are no facts. Seeing something that isnt there is the literal definition of delusional.

83806   MisdemeanorRebel   2017 May 16, 6:01pm  

Rew says

OBAMA WIRE TAPPED TRUMP!

BENGHAZI!

BIRTH CERTIFICATE!

SECRET MUSLIM!

SHE SMELLS OF SULFUR AND DEATH!

Except, those claims were derided in the media, and whenever the media covered that, the sneering and mockery of those opinions were overwhelming.

Now almsot the Entire Legacy Media is peddling "SECRET RUSSIAN!" "THERE WERE NO WIRETAPS!" "TONS OF RUSSIAN MONEY BUT NOT A SHRED OF EVIDENCE!" "COMEY FIRING A CONSPIRACY!" like the Free Republic or American Thinker did with those other stories.

That's the difference.

83807   CBOEtrader   2017 May 16, 6:02pm  

Lashkar_i_Trumpi says

Yep, folks, keep bringing up that server. It is THE place to start if you want evidence of Russian Hacking, the only potential physical evidence known and accessible. Why doesn't the DNC turn it over? Why, how could these endless rumors of Russian Hacking benefit them more than coming to a firm conclusion about it one way or the other?

WaPo: Comey cleared Flynn back in January

http://archive.is/noZI5

Our independent investigators, aka the fbi, needs to start w the DNC server, seth rich, and anthony weiner. I'm sure once they are done with those investigations they'd be 100% sure about the russians.

Its a win-win for everyone.

83808   Ceffer   2017 May 16, 7:12pm  

Like the good ole days when they had to tell Reagan where to go all the time, point for him, and hope he would travel in a straight line.

However, Reagan was a Jolly Zheimer, and Trumpligula is a Blowhard Zheimer.

83809   Ceffer   2017 May 16, 7:22pm  

Let's just hope that Trumpligula doesn't think the red button is a butt plug.

83810   missing   2017 May 16, 9:13pm  

FortWayne says

Religion is a big one Danny. It's freedom of thought.

Indoctrinating children is not freedom of thought.

Education of children is mandatory, right? Religious teaching is the opposite of education. That is why I am for banning of teaching religion to children. Once adult, they are free to think and believe whatever they want.

83811   CBOEtrader   2017 May 16, 9:20pm  

errc says

What about your team? You guys banned Industrial Hemp, and Cannabis flowers that people need to use for medicine. God put these great plants on this Earth for us to use, and your team puts people in prison for using a flower that we were given by God.

I dont agree w this either, but lets not compare weed to the 1st amendment.

83812   CBOEtrader   2017 May 16, 9:23pm  

FP says

That is why I am for banning of teaching religion to children.

Trotsky would be proud.

"Anti-religious propaganda played a critical role in the persecutions, because they were used to develop attitudes of hostility against believers which could then lead to justifying their mistreatment." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USSR_anti-religious_campaign_(1921%E2%80%9328)#Anti-Religious_Propaganda

83813   Dan8267   2017 May 16, 9:46pm  

FortWayne says

Religion is a big one Danny. It's freedom of thought. That's what you are banning.

Mindless delusions aren't freedom of thought. And don't tell me that you aren't in favor of banning Islam. You're also in favor of banning drugs like pot which literally are freedom of thought. So cut the hypocrisy.

Your false religion should not be a right, nonetheless a privileged religion. And yes, it's privilege not freedom to give tax exempt status to some religious institutes but not others. Does Wicca get tax exempt status?

FortWayne says

And it was your team that proposed banning "white males from voting".

A bold face lie. I don't remember Noam Chomsky ever suggesting anything remotely like that. That's your team, the conservatives. I don't care if your Shiite or Sunni, your still Muslim.

FortWayne says

Left also has been

Again, your team, not mine. Two factions of the same ideology just like Shiite and Sunni. Each faction hates the other, but its the same religion.

FP says

Indoctrinating children is not freedom of thought.

Agreed. It's the worse kind of child abuse.

83814   missing   2017 May 16, 9:50pm  

CBOEtrader says

Trotsky would be proud.

"Anti-religious propaganda played a critical role in the persecutions, because they were used to develop attitudes of hostility against believers which could then lead to justifying their mistreatment."

Trotsky was a smart person, but this quote has nothing to do with what I wrote.

BTW, eradicating religion was one of the good things the communists did.

83815   Dan8267   2017 May 16, 9:57pm  

No other mental illness is considered a right. Why should religion be?

83816   missing   2017 May 16, 10:02pm  

Dan8267 says

No other mental illness is considered a right. Why should religion be?

This is a good one. Although it is not really illness but early childhood indoctrination. One generation raised without religion will put the end to it.

83817   Dan8267   2017 May 16, 10:05pm  

The United States has NEVER had freedom of religion. It has only had a few highly privileged state-sponsored religions.

What if your religion advocates polygamy like the Mormons did? Oh, you have to stop that or the army won't protect you from invaders.

What if your religion marries off preteens to adults like Islam does? Nope, that doesn't go either.

What if your religion demands not paying taxes? Not a chance.

What if your religion demands secrecy and uses unbreakably encrypted communication? Opps, we can't have that.

What if religion forbids wearing clothes since the gods created you naked? Well, tough cookies.

What if your religion uses mind altering drugs like marijuana for spiritual visions? Nope, it's still against the law.

What if your religion is new? Nope, only religions created by people who died a long time ago are allowed.

Freedom of religion, my ass. It's privilege for a few fraudulent state-sponsored religions.

83818   Dan8267   2017 May 16, 10:07pm  

FP says

One generation raised without religion will put the end to it.

It's extremely rare for an adult not raised on religion to become religious as an adult. Religious propagation requires brainwashing children, who simply do not have the mental capacity to resist the brainwashing. This is why childhood indoctrination by religion is child abuse. It's no different that stoning a child with hard-core drugs.

83819   Dan8267   2017 May 16, 10:08pm  

CBOEtrader says

Anti-religious propaganda

Weigh the evil done in the name of religion to the evil done in the name of ending religion and there's no comparison. Religion is the cause of the greatest atrocities throughout history. To deny this is the most despicable of lies.

83820   Dan8267   2017 May 16, 10:10pm  

CBOEtrader says

Trotsky would be proud.

Hitler was a Christian, so I guess Hitler would be proud of you.

Playing the guilt by lose association game is damn easy to do.

83821   missing   2017 May 16, 10:13pm  

Dan8267 says

It's extremely rare for an adult not raised on religion to become religious as an adult.

Exactly! This is what I give as evidence that religion is nonsense.

83822   missing   2017 May 16, 10:19pm  

C'mon, Trotsky was a revolutionary who fought and made personal sacrifices for an ideal of a just society. Can't be compared to Hitler.

83823   Patrick   2017 May 16, 10:41pm  

Allege, allege, allege...

to assert without proof

83824   Heraclitusstudent   2017 May 16, 10:53pm  

There may be a link between Trump and Russians, but now here you have a narrative from the same establishment that bombarded you with the Iraq narrative: Hussein having chemical weapons is an unbearable risk for the US. The same establishment that took seriously the idea that Kerry shot himself to get a medal and later become president.

Now that they have their narrative, THEY are going to blast him with it day by day, from every direction, from many countries, from many angles.
Until they find a way to get rid of him for good.

I'm not defending Trump, but they have a lock on the system, and they are not going to tolerate an outsider.

83825   freespeechforever   2017 May 16, 11:09pm  

Patrick is in the twilight zone, man.

He could LITERALLY watch Trump strangle an innocent bystander to death in front of his own eyes, in plain daylight, and then someone Designjet it happened or attempt to justify it.

83826   CBOEtrader   2017 May 16, 11:12pm  

Dan8267 says

CBOEtrader says

Trotsky would be proud.

Hitler was a Christian, so I guess Hitler would be proud of you.

Im not religious. Im a liberal, unlike either of you. Liberals believe in free speech.

Those political movements who stray from free speech ALWAYS trend towards violence. Always.

FP says

BTW, eradicating religion was one of the good things the communists did.

This is insanity. The marxists used religion as a reason to oppress people. Also, just like you, they wanted to control indoctrination during core development years. You arent allowed to decide what a parent teaches a child.

FP says

C'mon, Trotsky was a revolutionary who fought and made personal sacrifices for an ideal of a just society. Can't be compared to Hitler.

You need to take a long look in the mirror. Are you in antifa? Communists killed 15 (?) times as many people as the nazis? Freedom of speech is THE core right on which all other rights hinge. Thats why its the 1st amendment. Both the nazis and communists are data points.

Dan8267 says

The United States has NEVER had freedom of religion. It has only had a few highly privileged state-sponsored religions.

What if your religion advocates polygamy like the Mormons did? Oh, you have to stop that or the army won't protect you from invaders.

What if your religion marries off preteens to adults like Islam does? Nope, that doesn't go either.

What if your religion demands not paying taxes? Not a chance.

What if your religion demands secrecy and uses unbreakably encrypted communication? Opps, we can't have that.

What if religion forbids wearing clothes since the gods created you naked? Well, tough cookies.

What if your religion uses mind altering drugs like marijuana for spiritual visions? Nope, it's still against the law.

What if your religion is new? Nope, only religions created by people who died a long time ago are allowed.

Freedom of religion, my ass. It's privilege for a few fraudulent state-sponsored religions.

You are a straw-man factory.

Dan8267 says

CBOEtrader says

Anti-religious propaganda

Weigh the evil done in the name of religion to the evil done in the name of ending religion and there's no comparison.

Show me a religious group that believed in rights for all people while killing others. Its never happened. I dont give a fuck about religion, I care about free speech. Extremism thrives when free speech is limited, not in a free society.

83827   Dan8267   2017 May 16, 11:15pm  

CBOEtrader says

You are a straw-man factory.

Says the guy repeating the mother of all straw man arguments.

https://patrick.net/Tom+Selleck+and+Charlie+Chaplin+are+the+most+dangerous+despots+ever.

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