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jazz_music says

This is what those in power do, they spread lies to make war for oil company gains.

http://www.historycommons.org/entity.jsp?entity=lauri_fitz_pegado_1

Yup. This was fake news to justify war. Its the same game CNN/NYT/WashPo are playing today w russia/syria. I'm glad we could find a point of agreement.

Amazing that you see lies like this to justify robbing us of our freedoms and wealth, then eagerly jump into giving this same establishment your freedoms and wealth for their climate change agenda.

Its all the same shit man. Its one disaster after another that the govt uses to justify their rescue measures, always involving taxing us and further eroding freedoms. See the patriot act as passed under BUSH and expanded to 1984 levels under OBAMA as the easiest example.

The fraud is probably out of this world. People who count votes aren't exactly non partisan.

CBOEtrader says

Climate change is complex model to the point where it is impossible to know and account for every variable.

If you think it is impossible for scientists to tell that the globe has been warming due to pollution and that it will continue to warm, then you are a fool. There are literally thousands of lines of independent evidence all confirming this. Feigning ignorance is no excuse.

Dan8267 says

CBOEtrader says

Science is based on odds and reason. It is not about absolutes.

No, this is not how science works. You drop a penny from a height of 20 meters and science tells you with certainty how long it will take the penny to hit the ground and how fast it will be going.

Only when all variables are accounted for. When it comes to sea levels, the variables are not all accounted for, mostly because there are so many more variables to account for and possibly some variables that are not even known. It ain't like dropping a penny from twenty feet. A simple minded fool blinded by his ideology and influenced by his tribal loyalties might make that analogy but not an honest scientist.

Dan8267 says

CBOEtrader says

Climate change is complex model to the point where it is impossible to know and account for every variable.

If you think it is impossible for scientists to tell that the globe has been warming due to pollution and that it will continue to warm, then you are a fool. There are literally thousands of lines of independent evidence all confirming this. Feigning ignorance is no excuse.

You always take statements to the absurd extreme.

I am not feigning ignorance. People pollute, and its a huge problem.

The relevant question is what do we do about it? That's where it becomes politicized and willfully misrepresented, a la "An Inconvenient Truth". It is the inconvenient truth type of liars who are entering into crap agreements like the Paris accords based on faulty interpretations of data models.

They furthermore put out propaganda which works wonders on people like you and jazz. They WANT you to think climate change is as easy as predicting the speed of penny falling through air.

The OP info graphic is exactly that type of propaganda. If they aren't telling you where their model may be wrong, and their statistical range of estimates, then they are lying to you.

PeopleUnited says

Only when all variables are accounted for.

Apply that to terrorism. Do nothing about terrorism until all variables are known. And that's never.

The bottom line is that we understand the cause and effects of climate change far better than terrorism, and we know how to stop climate change. So quite being hypocritical. A train is coming down the tracks and you refuse to get off the tracks because you don't know if they are serving martinis in the dining cart.

CBOEtrader says

The relevant question is what do we do about it?

Include the cost of cleaning up the pollution in all products that generate pollution in their creation.

In other words, stop letting the government pick winners and losers by legalizing some form of theft. This is the worst kind of socialism, socializing the cost of a few products while privatizing the profits of those products.

anonymous says

Yes, that is how stupid they are.

Our first President to give his State of the Union addresses wearing a drool bucket and Pampers.

But what about my apprentice ratings. That's all the matters. I'm crushing Schwarzenegger. - Trump

ALZHEIMERROID'S!
Just pissed myself. lmao

In america, it's not acceptable to criticize another persons physical attributes (unless it is Trump's hair or skin color).

Two weeks ago we had some high volume sellers (open, close, volume):

Jun 16, 2017 21.85 --> 19.50 1,263,100
Jun 19, 2017 19.90 --> 20.05 566,200
Jun 20, 2017 20.00 --> 19.50 367,900
Jun 21, 2017 19.40 --> 18.20 753,200

Stabilized at ~19.50 now . . . looks like the market is waiting for news like everyone else . . .

Still sitting on my hands with this one. Buying a condo in Maui instead has kept me busy in the short run.

I dropped another $2k, 9% is double my next best yield.

Portland mercury, newsweek, washington post? Seriously? Looks like he managed to get 3.3 mil people off their fat asses and away from the TV and the bag of cheese puffs for a little while. That's an accomplishment.

That German bitch with the ten fingers on her tummy doesn't run shit any more. That's the take away. And I've never felt more positive about the direction of the world
The new world leader alliance will be Russia, China, and USA, the EU can start pulling their own shit and backing it up with their own resources. But the day of them letting NGO's with no real government authority dictate what the rest of the world does in their best interests are over.

Merkle has enjoyed her last Belle of the Ball moment in her life and career. That's a guarantee.
What she did to his wife yesterday was unacceptable.

Did Ivanka do splits on the conference table with no panties?

The President being a Republican or Democrat is the most embarrassing thing that could happen to the American voter.
Yes! the world is laughing at you.

"numerous contacts with foreign officials"

sagacious1 says

I concern myself with policy, not image.....and I could care less about what the rest of the world thinks.

You are supporting an interesting President if that is the case. I would say he is the antithesis of what you espouse. In strong part he only holds office because of his ability to project a phantom of success.

If ever there was an image over substance time in America, it is now.

sagacious1 says

I concern myself with policy, not image.....and I could care less about what the rest of the world thinks. There is no Country this size on the planet, who has it better than we do. If anyone feels otherwise, don't let the door hit you in the a** on the way out.

How about door 3--we vote competent people into office who can actually make good policy to improve the country?

joeyjojojunior says

How about door 3--we vote competent people into office who can actually make good policy to improve the country?

Here here!

Obviously, that requires an educated population and a voting system where votes have strong measurable influence over policy. Details details. (wink)

Rew says

sagacious1 says

I concern myself with policy, not image.....and I could care less about what the rest of the world thinks.

You are supporting an interesting President if that is the case. I would say he is the antithesis of what you espouse. In strong part he only holds office because of his ability to project a phantom of success.

If ever there was an image over substance time in America, it is now.

I didn't say I supported anyone. The original post regards image, which I find meaningless. As for this administration, some thing I can agree with, others I don't. I do have deep reservations, however it's too premature to render an opinion. Yet it remains the greatest Nation ever designed, and shall continue to be.

"Mr. President, your daughter is an amazing woman. I'm very impressed by her business sense. We have granted multiple trademarks and deals for her new clothing lines and are very excited by the prospects. I believe this is a great deal for us both. There is however the matter of these islands in the South China sea ... have you been to some of our vacation spots? No? I will have to have you down ... you see it's just that ..."

komputodo says

ummmmm...show up with a tranny wife?

Very telling.

I guess rumored Eastern European prostitute is as close as we have come so far.

sagacious1 says

Yet it remains the greatest Nation ever designed, and shall continue to be.

Democratic norms and things which make it great are under assault both from foreign influence and domestic incompetence.

I don't need any more time to issue a judgment: Trump is an empty shirt and our national dysfunction has been amped up by a factor of 5 because of him. We have begun falling from our leadership role in the world.

komputodo says

ummmmm...show up with a tranny wife?

Melania does bear a striking resemblance to Kaitlyn Jenner.

That started when obama's red line was crossed without consequence...

Rew says

We have begun falling from our leadership role in the world.

Well, we apparently just found the next hysteria.....

Oh, and I told you so.

Rew says

We have begun falling from our leadership role in the world.

Remember the golden rule? Whoever has the gold makes the rules. Has nothing to do with manners, protocols, hair styles, etc.

Rew says

. We have begun falling from our leadership role in the world.

I find it incredulous that by choosing a different path than the global mindset, equates to "falling from our leadership role". I mean, certainly one can argue his decisions and directions, yet to suggest because this administration won't follow the Global trend doesn't mean it's not leading, in fact quite the opposite. The question is, is it the right direction?

anonymous says

*Trump Handed Putin a Stunning Victory *

Ah that's cute. I haven't had one fellow Trump asskisser call me up and say "Dude!!! What the fuck! Did you see that shit? Trump handed Putin a stunning vicotry!"

Dream on Libbies, dream on.

Yep... it a true.

www.youtube.com/embed/R7f-pw2SXUU

Also note the debunked lie in the second video where the right-wing shill tries to pretend that the pre-Southern-Strategy Republican Party is the same as today's Republican Party.

Rew says

komputodo says

ummmmm...show up with a tranny wife?

Very telling.

I guess rumored Eastern European prostitute is as close as we have come so far.

Rumors and conspiracies is all the left has. The DNC is broken. This is a very good thing

anonymous says

Second, he needed to demonstrate that he understands that the greatest threat to that alliance, those values, and our security is the Kremlin.

The greatest threat to western values is coming from the left, who is all too eager to squash freedom of speech to gain power. The left doesn't care about the migrant invasion or starting WW3, or even pitting Americans against each other as long as they gain more political power.

Trump made a brilliant speech in Poland expressing that western values are worth saving. Western culture will prevail this onslaught, whereas the DNC will not.