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you are forgetting the rest of the high paying jobs in medical and financial sectors
your analysis has some truth but it is still far from accurate
Why are you assuming an average income household should be able to afford a average family SFH?
There are other options, like condos and apartments, which can be much cheaper than SFH.
Maybe I missed something, but why are you assuming a $600k mortgage for a $600k starter house? Many people on the Peninsula have at least 20% to put down.
"you can have 2 people making the mean wage($60k+$60k=$120k); or one person making a high wage(at $120k) to afford a $600k mortgage. although they’ll be paying 50% of their net take home for the mortgage+taxes."
That actually would not be affordable. The formula is Income x 3. Not income x 5. So yes, there is quite a long way down still.
I rarely see any transactions closing with a 20% down. The norm seems to be 40%+ down payment. Every transaction I look at usually involves a down payment with several hundred thousands of dollars. Appears the folks that got priced out, and lived at home for all these years saved up a pretty penny.
I also have not seen anyone get foreclosed on that needs pity. They usually walk away with several hundred thousands of dollars in equity. Worse case scenario is they paid 0% down, made some payments, and lose the house.
So there's a whole lot of people with several hundred thousands of dollars to use as a down payment to bring the monthly payment affordable for an average income.
At some point, once you see salaries exceeding the norm, these jobs move out.
The +100K jobs are shrinking given there are alternatives to being located in the Valley.
The formula is Income x 3. Not income x 5. So yes, there is quite a long way down still.
The formula needs to change when one income is perfectly sufficient to cover all the household's non-housing outgoes.
$200,000 per year net can cover a LOT more house payment than $60,000 net -- we're talking EIGHT times the debt service power ~$160,000/yr vs. $20,000.
At 4% rates this pencils out to FOUR MILLION vs. $500,000 price points.
The formula needs to change when one income is perfectly sufficient to cover all the household’s non-housing outgoes.
Dual income families have been around for a very long time.
Dual income families have been around for a very long time.
But $200,000+ household middle-class incomes and ~4.5% conforming loans up to $730,000 haven't.
Alla youguys are looking at it from your own Nuclear Family Values point of view, maybe from the midwest or some other region of North America.
But the pricing in those Fortress places in Santa Clara County is not determined by people who come from that point of view.
You see, compared to places like Hong Kong, Shanghai, Mumbai, Singapore, the worst congested day in the worst congested commute from San Jose (or wherever) to those Fortress Communities seems like the wide open prairie in comparison.
And per sq ft., the Fortress is a bargain for those folks. Half the world lives in China and India, even the small percentage who are wealthy is a massive number of people compared to the number of properties that are sold in the Fortress Communities in the cities of the west coast.
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First some facts.
Decent Peninsula areas are Millbrae, Burlingame, parts of San Mateo, Foster City, Belmont, San Carlos, Menlo Park, Palo Alto and Mountain View
On redfin, there are very few houses under $600k in the areas I mentioned: redfin map showing houses under $600k
On the map we can see most of these lower priced houses (meaning those under $600k) are clustered in 3 areas: redwood city, the lower income east side of san mateo and east palo alto
if you want a bigger home it'll cost quite a bit more. A decent non-starter (meaning larger) house will start around $800k but can be much more if you want an established neighborhood (anything in Palo Alto).
If a household spends 30% of net pay on mortgage: $120k/year net; $210k/year gross.
If a household spends 50% of net pay on mortgage: $72k/year net; $120k/year gross
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san francisco wages
san jose wages
looking at the median hourly rate, we can presume median wage is equal to or less than the mean wage.
meaning half the jobs probably make less than $61,940/$66,780.
you get paid more in san jose, so let's look at that city.
the mean wage for all occupational groups in SJ is under $100k, with the exception of: managers, engineers, lawyers.
there are 888k total jobs in san jose; 74k managers, 83k engineers, 6k lawyers for a total of 163k high paying jobs. that is 18% of all jobs.
this theory that most people in the bay area make $100k+ is nonsense. roughly 4 of 5 jobs pay under $100k.
Let's summarize the facts.
Now the analysis.
50% debt to net-income
you can have 2 people making the mean wage($60k+$60k=$120k); or one person making a high wage(at $120k) to afford a $600k mortgage. although they'll be paying 50% of their net take home for the mortgage+taxes.
but what is important is that there is no possible way (unless you have the mortgage fraud we had in 2005) that a single person with a median income can realistically afford this starter home. you need either two mean wages, or a high income wage at 50% of debt-to-net-income.
30% debt to net-income
if you do the more realistic scenario of 30% of net pay to pay a $600k mortgage; then you need one income of $210k/year or two high income wages (both at $105k/year or some combination) just to afford a starter home.
Conclusion
it's entirely unrealistic, without substantial price appreciation, for two high salaries to pay for a starter home that should be sold to the lower income demographic.
in a sane world, someone earning the mean wage or less would be buying this starter property(which would be priced much lower than $600k).
i'm hoping for people to come to this realization and maybe we'll see a return to sanity.
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