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EBGuy,
Thanks for that article link. Humorous, but it definitely rings true...

FAB

Excellent point. Mothers are much older now so that of course could be a factor.

Don't get me wrong-- I believe in immunizations. My kids have had all of theirs and I wouldn't dream of not doing it. I think not immunizing your kids is foolish. I just worry that we don't want to look at how the medical industry is giving immunizations in a knee-jerk fashion. But then, I suppose people are protesting immunizations in knee-jerk fashion too...

EBGuy

What I find especially interesting about that article is that it makes the point that autism (and the related syndromes) may have always been around in the same numbers as now-- just without the diagnoses.

Society has become so prone to medicating kids nowadays that virtually every kid can get a diagnoses of some sort if you go to the doctor. I'd be willing to bet that if I went to the doctor tomorrow and complained that my son was hyperactive they would put him on Ritalin in no time flat. It's scary.

I am a strong believer in holistic medicine. Besides, I believe people will be a lot healthier (physically) if they can fix their minds.

That said, I think immunization has a good reward/risk ratio. Even my cats are vaccinated.

Not medical advice

Monkframe says

I find your comments offensive.

Oh that's just so precious! You show up and call us all racists, those of us who are American fat-assed ignoramuses and the US armed forces mass murderers.

You then profess to take offense that I called you a piece of shit in response to all your garbage propaganda. I can only hope your delicate sensibilities were offended enough by my uncivilized namecalling, to give you a stroke.

BAI, it is just said that America-bashing is so trendy nowadays. :(

Peter P
when has it NOT been trendy? ;-)

This was to good to pass up in light of the recent discussion:
Doerr [of Kleiner Perkins Caufield & Byers] likes to invest in "white male nerds who've dropped out of Harvard or Stanford, and they have absolutely no social life." That's why he backed Netscape, Amazon, Yahoo and Google.

On the vaccine topic, a case was brought to federal court just today.

"Court hears claim linking vaccines to autism"

http://tinyurl.com/4j44kl

"Oh that’s just so precious! You show up and call us all racists, those of us who are American fat-assed ignoramuses and the US armed forces mass murderers.

You then profess to take offense that I called you a piece of shit in response to all your garbage propaganda. I can only hope your delicate sensibilities were offended enough by my uncivilized namecalling, to give you a stroke."

What about the American service people you profess to care about so much? 18 suicides per day out of 32 attempts AFTER they return to the home of the brain-dead "patriots" who love them so much--until they get in the way on a street corner when you're trying to get to your "steak & prawn" joint.

Yes, you do offend.

This is why as a society we need to offer help to veterans.

I do not understand the logic. People want to call this idiot President a Savior because he is doing something that a few individuals approve of; the logic does not hold.

The President (and conservatives) are the reasons there is a Housing crisis. If Americans could take a step back and look at what has happened over this last 30 years, they would realize that this is not the first housing mess that we have faced.

The first was in the early 80's when Ballon-payments were used as a substitute for an increase in salaries. The second time was with the Savings and Loan Crisis; lax standards.

Now, we are experiencing a third housing crisis and you what to praise this idiot (and perhpas the conservatives as well). If this is the logic that exists in America to praise someone who appears to be a Savior when he actually caused the problem with his failure to have his regulators perform their jobs, then no wonder we are in trouble.

Now, this is not to say that his position is wrong; but to consider him a Savior is a sign of desparation. No one should be judged on one act or position taken. This is the reason we are in Iraq right now.

Generally speaking, Patick.Net is the most informative site relative to this topic, but this article has gone too far. Further, it amazes me that when someone wants something and they happen to agree with the respective politician then that politician is a Savior or Hero when collectively speaking the politician, President Bush, has been a complete failure.

Lastly, this article reminds me of the guy went hiking alone and got his arm stuck in some rocks and he ultimately had to cut-off his arm to save his life and the media made this idiot a hero when he should not have ever gone hiking alone.

So please, please, please do not tell me that who ever wrote this article/post needs and wants a house this badly to consider President Bush a Savior. He may have finally did something correctly after 7 1 /2 years, but he is NO Damn Savior!!! Get a grip on yourself and stop being so one-dimensional.

Fascinating blast from the past -(10 years ago)!

This thread is very wide ranging and filled with interesting comments from educated articulate posters.

Contrast that to the current environment where Patnet content is 90% one liners and meme pictures, in response to generally nonsense topics....

@Patrick - Note, I am not trying to denigrate 2018 posters as I too like to crack jokes and fling poo on occasion. Still even when the issue isn't housing, how did the TONE of this site change from this thread to what it is now?

10 years ago, memes weren't as prevalent.

You might be trying to make a point about PatNet itself, but you're ignoring the larger cultural bubble that PatNet resides within.

He screwed up big time, I wouldn't call him a hero. Hero is reserved for people who endanger themselves to help others, he did no such thing. He's just a failed politician. Let's leave past in the past... and work on the future instead.

I voted for Obama, not because Obama was great, but because I saw McCain as another Bush, and Bush was a failure for everyone. He failed conservatives, he failed America.

anon_470e9 says

@Patrick - Note, I am not trying to denigrate 2018 posters as I too like to crack jokes and fling poo on occasion. Still even when the issue isn't housing, how did the TONE of this site change from this thread to what it is now?

@Patrick - it would be great that Anons that gripe about the "Way Pat.net used to be before Donald Trump won the election." could be labeled "Anonymous Flouncer Returned_1A" or some such.

Also can I suggest this as an anti-Bot measure for Anon posts?