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Just saying...

Are you kidding ? Those two are WAY different. In spite of some major disagreements I had with Bap, about immigration and other issues, he appeared to have an emotional intelligence (with respect to the way he argues (or doesn't)) that is light years above Shrek's.

Shrek follows more in the tradition of Ray, and in my opinion possibly is Ray.

negative, I'm just me.

what's the beef?

That's pretty insulting to Bap.

Thanks Kevin and marcus.

I am very much a conservative. I think.

13 has attacked me a few times, but then in other posts showed extreem intellect, ... almost split personality. I really do not know where the conversation is that sparked this post. Anyone care to share?

Don't know from whence it came - but Bap and the grinch are totally different in their style and approaches.

I read some of his stuff ... dude spells way better than me, and is much higher educated in the financial and political arenas on here, from what I read.

all I had to do was read some of the vocabulary used and I knew it wasn't me!! lol

Bap33 says

all I had to do was read some of the vocabulary used and I knew it wasn’t me!! lol

So, that clears it all up, huh?

lol ... yea ... dude writes with bigger words and a whole different vibe. I much more basic. Simple -- as Doc was about to say. lol

Bap33 says

negative, I’m just me.
what’s the beef?

No beef, just saying I hadnt heard from you in a while. Looking forward to sharing opposing views..btw, I am making it a new years resolution to embrace opposing views.

Bap33 says

Thanks Kevin and marcus.
I am very much a conservative. I think.
13 has attacked me a few times, but then in other posts showed extreem intellect, … almost split personality. I really do not know where the conversation is that sparked this post. Anyone care to share?

Sorry. Not my intent....I just like to debate back and forth about ish I cant change.

I have read some of you latest stuff, and I had no oposing view! lol. I'll do my best to check in more regular.

Have you guys noticed how much bad news is on the front pages of news sites this morning. It looks like islamists have blown up arab Christians. That should add to this whole debate about "who are we fighting" in the war or terror .. maybe?

Prolly so, plus Ethiopian Jews are being buried in seperate plots from Israeli Jews. Not sure what is up with all the hate going on now adays. It seems although religion has its place the congregations dont follow the word of the books.

Ethiopian Jews have the ark. That prolly pissed off the Hebrew sect up north.

Happy new year. Let's start out pissed off and threaten to end the world. That'll do it...

You'd think everyone could just chill out for a day.

is today the starting day for all calendars?

It's the beginning of the end for the 2012 crowd.

The 2012 crowd are primarily a small percentage of adolescents who use it as an excuse to party a lot and stay high. Yo TOT, do you believe the world ends in 2012? I guess if I thought the world ended in 2012, I would maybe adjust my priorities somewhat too.

Dang, didnt mean to enrage everyone....

@SHREK

No beef, just noticed a trend of arch-conservative ideas with no regard for opposing views. BAP and I like to go back and forth about conservative/liberal philosophy similarly to you, Kevin and Marcus....which I found interesting.

Thats pretty much it...looking forward to sharing ideas in the new year with everyone.

I don't know that I am ignored on here nearly as much as in my house by my teenage daughter .... (rim shot) .. thank you, thank you, try the fish, I'm here all week ...

shrekgrinch says

I happen to know that I am one of the most ‘ignored’ people on this site.

How do you know that?

Bap33 says

I don’t know that I am ignored on here nearly as much as in my house by my teenage daughter …. (rim shot) .. thank you, thank you, try the fish, I’m here all week …

I'm willing to bet that she loves you when she needs something, tho.

She's a challenge. Too old to spank, to young to toss out head first.

shrekgrinch says

Clarence 13X says

No beef, just noticed a trend of arch-conservative ideas with no regard for opposing views

What do you mean ‘with no regard for opposing views’. a) conservatives on this site are pretty aware how much they are in the minority and why. We know what the opposing views are. In fact, we know them so well that it truly is a rarity that we run into one that is actually novel by a Leftie. And we have long figured out how and why those ‘views’ are bankrupt at worse or just plain not credible at best. b) I happen to know that I am one of the most ‘ignored’ people on this site. Therefore, if you are after the most people who have no regard for opposing views, I am far, far outnumbered by the Mark_LA’s of this world.

Your response above is a primary example of how overly sensative conservatives have become after 8 years of BUSH bashing. I am sure liberals will be the same in another 6 years after Obama's tenure is finished. My point is that your so concerned with proving why conservative ideas are far better than liberal ideas that you fail to acknowledge any good fact based points, period. There are far more conservative ideas on this site than liberal ideas, the problem with the conservative ideas is that they go too far right....with the authors almost begging for a return to the good ol days where we can fly the Rebel flag and drink Jack Daniels at the saloon.

So far, Obama has been attacked by the arch-conservative Tea Party on:

Socialism - Go ahead and cancel Sesame Street, Parks and Recreation....cancel Social Security and Welfare while you at it. Lets see how many trailer parks go up in flames and how many elderly, mentally ill lose their lives after the riots start. Lets see what plan of action the christian right have planned for when these services are no longer valid....ohh wait, they dont have one because all they can think to do is build missionaries in Mexico and Africa, which are countries without these services. A friend of mine just helped build an orphanage in Mexico last weekend...we will just house our mentally ill and elderly there.

Birth Rights - If he has been acknowledged as a citizen for the past 46 years why all of a sudden do we challenge this....could it be that the inbred Palins present no challenge to the presidency in 2012 and the Republican rebel flag flying baptist know they dont have one viable canidate?

Keynesian Economics - Wonder how many presidents prior to this administration used stimilus packages samto fight a recession? Bush and Reagan did and so did many before them.

Soft Approach - If a black man gets too passionate he is too agressive, but if he maintains his composure he is too soft....please, Obama is too smart to fall into this trap so are many other people in politics. During this past election cycle he was labeled uppity because he is educated, yet if he held no degrees he would be just another lazy black.

Healthcare - Well, there's something to talk about because I am not for the type of reform that we got...why should we pay for 15 million poverty stricken people to enter the system and line the pockets of every health insurance company around when we havent even yet touched the topic of reducing costs. And YES, its deficit neutral but NO it does nothing to alleviate the root of the problem...high costs.

Lapel Pin - Please, does he need to be sure to wear superman underwear too? One simple oversight or gaffe and Obamas a demon. George Bush placed our country's primary focus on a useless war for the past 10 years, doesnt that seem a bit more worth our energy?

Taxes - Oh geez, he is working to reduce every except the top 3$ taxes....lets hold a tea party to protest the injustice to the rich in America. Ohhh wait, what you say....they were just going to put that money in their kids trusts funds which has no benefit to the American economy.

National Security - He is a wimp if he pulls out, and he is a spend thrift is he stays....make up your mind whether you want our children paying 1T to overthrow another country. I could of did it in 2 years by setting up a DMZ around the country after the war was over...keeping the extremist within their own country. Although, I would of also setup firing lines in which all the extremist bodies would of been covered in pig blood prior to burial, no need allowing them into heaven to meet their 40 virgins. This was done by Sadaam and shutdown all the opposition during the 80s and 90s.

We need to start focusing on what is right for our country, and not just what is right for the Republican and Democratic party. Kevin and Marcus have made many good points that you refute just for the sake of refuting...as if conservative ideas are the only good ideas worth reading.

Both the Republican and Democrats flip-flop on issues depending on the season. I am a conservative and your comments go to far right, labeling any type of pragmatism or common sense approach that could ever be taken to resolve our issues as LIBERAL.

If we really want a society free of social security and taxes, Mexico has those same policies....plus they deport their illegal aliens....so go ahead and admit that you really dont give a shit about whats best for America as long your side wins, right?

Bap33 says

She’s a challenge. Too old to spank, to young to toss out head first.

somebody needs to be collecting this material....