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richwicks says

Remove subsidies and taxation for incentives, and let's find out.

Are you saying remove all the subsidies and incentives for oil production which is estimated to be up to $50 Billion a year in the US alone? There were no subsidies available last year when I got my Model Y and it still costs me less to drive than a standard mid-range sedan like my old Hyundai.

richwicks says

It's marketing. Don't believe what a company says. What do you expect them to say?

I believe companies that have a proven track record of delivering on their promises. Granted we have "Elon Time" which means to basically add a couple years to Elon's predictions - but at the end of the day - Tesla and SpaceX are creating and delivering world class technology.

Some people still don't believe that Tesla is going to solve self driving. Look at what they have already accomplished!

Drive from San Francisco to LA with zero interventions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEUbnHt_Ezc

socal2 says

I believe companies that have a proven track record of delivering on their promises. Granted we have "Elon Time" which means to basically add a couple years to Elon's predictions - but at the end of the day - Tesla and SpaceX are creating and delivering world class technology.

This.

My favorite is "ElOn DiDn'T Do NuTtIn"

Yeah, what, Ignited internet commerce with Paypal, Tesla is one of the best selling cars in the USA, and Space X has a reuseable rocket that at price per kilo, not even old cheap Soyuz can compete with AND the only fully rated Human Space Capsule in the USA with years of service behind it already, Dragon.

@socal2,

Getting solar installed on our house. It’s pricey for a 14.8 kW system. Hopefully it’ll be worth it. It’s supposed to pay for itself in a decade or so while the warranty is 25 years with 92% efficiency remaining then.

Same here. I bought my S b/c I wanted it. It had nothing to do with the environment. I install solar, and it has nothing to do with the environment. Why do people think we do these things b/c of the environment? It makes sense from a financial POV. That’s all.

We qualify for $7.5k state rebate and $7.5k Federal based on our 2022 tax returns. Been thinking of buying a Model Y just because of this. Net cost after rebate and credit is $35.5k for it, but we don’t need another car. 😂

People just don’t give Elon enough credit. I can totally relate to “Elon’s time”. 😅

WookieMan says

EV's have been around forever at your local golf course.

Yes, been around forever, not just golf carts:



Production of the Detroit Electric automobile, powered by a rechargeable lead acid battery, began in 1907. For an additional US$600, an Edison nickel-iron battery was available from 1911 to 1916. The cars were advertised as reliably getting 80 miles (130 km) between battery recharging, although in one test a Detroit Electric ran 211.3 miles (340.1 km) on a single charge. Top speed was only about 20 mph (32 km/h), but this was considered adequate for driving within city or town limits at the time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detroit_Electric

Model S Plaid with track pack just set new lap record for “a production EV” at Nürburgring. Beat the old time by 8 sec.

https://twitter.com/tesla/status/1665068919109951489?t=5lEEPaezr6Ic-W4Z6huZ5Q&ref_src=patrick.net

https://notthebee.com/article/wow-israeli-survived-attack-from-hamas-and-outran-killers-with-tesla-model-3-that-took-insane-damage-and-still-was-able-to-navigate-him-to-the-er

An Israeli man, only identified by the initial "C" found himself surrounded by Hamas on the day of the invasion on his way to report to the city's emergency squad.

The Hamas fighters started immediately firing upon the man in his Tesla Model 3, aiming at the back and the front of the car. However, since the Tesla is an electric vehicle with no front engine, they were unable to disable the car with the shots.

"They did not realize that it was an electric vehicle, so they shot at the front, hoping to hit the engine that was not there, and at the back, trying to set the fuel tank on fire that the car doesn't have. They shot my tires. I stepped on the gas and they started chasing me," C. said.

C. was chased by the jihadists and reached speeds of over 110 miles per hour. This is while the Tesla had a flat tire.

C. credited the Tesla's all-wheel drive mode for keeping him on the road. He was able to outrun the truck that was chasing him and made it to the hospital to receive treatment for the gunshot wounds he sustained.

He's lucky they didn't hit the battery - that shit burns fast and hot.

That's exactly what I thought.

Hamas just hasn't a clue about Teslas because they never see them. Had they known, they would have gone for the battery.