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When to stop renting and buy?


               
2011 Jul 11, 5:26am   35,329 views  132 comments

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Hey guys, you helped me out a lot last year and I was able to escape from a tricky situation unscathed. I sold my 1br/1ba condo without having a short-sale on the record based on your advice.

My wife and I needed more room since we were having a baby in January, and so we're currently renting a 3br/2ba house with a pool in a great neighborhood. The rent is reasonable for what and where it is, but I still feel like I'm throwing thousands down the drain instead of building equity.

I'd like to buy a reasonable starter home in the future, and I should be able to scrape together 10% down myself, and possibly get some family assistance, depending on the total cost.

But even decent starter homes in the South Bay in good neighborhoods are $500k+, which means a 20% downpayment is $100k.

Having been burned on my condo, I'm naturally cautious. Also, I'm very comfortable in my rental, my family enjoys it, and it's in a great neighborhood I could never afford to buy into. (Rent is $2,390 a month, house appraises at $795,000 on Zillow and was appraised last year for $850,000 for refi purposes by the owner).

So how do I know when the time is right to make my move? Should I just wait until those $500-$700K suburban nearly-identical homes all through the valley drop another 10%? Should I wait until inventory is lower? Or average time on the market is lower? What do I look for?

Compounding the difficulty, we're probably going to try and have another baby in two years, which would be fine in our current house as well - but since 2 kids in day care costs more than my wife makes, our income will probably change a bit in that time frame.

Any advice is appreciated guys.

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128   AdamCarollaFan   @   2012 Feb 2, 2:32am  

gregpfielding says

Rent for another 3 years. You'll probably "earn" 75K a year in not-lost-equity by doing so.

good call, greggers. that's the plan.

for the past year, my roommate and i have been renting a nice 2/1.25, 1025sf apartment for $900. our lease is up, and we're renewing for 12 months @ $905. signing the lease today, yay!

129   bubblesitter   @   2012 Feb 2, 3:12am  

I want to simplify - why buy when property values are not inching up in the so called desirable areas?

130   snyderkv   @   2013 Oct 22, 4:20pm  

egads101 says

common! 3 years 3 months later, how did all that "don't buy it will fall another 50%" advice workout???

common @gregfielding, if I don't understand markets, explain this gem of a prediction you made 39 months ago!!!!

My investment condo is up 40% since 2 years ago and the renters are making me rich. My home is up 50k since last year.

This is a permabear site you go to when you you want others to feed your pessimism and agree with you. I advise people to do their own research and filter out those uneducated nobodies who obviously aren't investors and don't know their markets.

131   coriacci1   @   2013 Oct 23, 2:01am  

just the thought of dishing over the realturds 6% commission will keep me in my lovely mission dolores rent controlled 1850sqft pad FOREVER!!!!!! ( or at least as long as I can hold on to it).

132   retire59   @   2013 Oct 23, 2:47am  

I understand when some say that "no debt" is the best way...but it is all semantics instead of economics. Unless you plan to live "rent free" somehow, you have to pay for a roof over your head. So you may not be in "debt" but if you plan to not live with your parents for free or in a 'box', you still have "expenses" that must be met.

So I believe it is just a matter of semantics and not ecomonics in that you should always base your 'living' situation on what you can afford... do the math and be realistic and you will be able to decide. the Patrick.net calculator rent vs buy is a good way to start. Take care as this is a very important decision.

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