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I guess Al Sharpton isn't the only person in the world who can manipulate low information racist blacks for profit.

CaptainShuddup says

Homeboy says

If you think that justifies being dishonest to win an election...

Twice!!!!

Trice!!!

I don't see what the big deal is. Republicans lie about being conservative. Democrats lie about being liberal. All of them lie about what they will and won't do once in office.

Skin color isn't relevant to how they'll perform on the job, misrepresenting it extremely benign compared to other things politicians lie about, and relatively easy to fact check.

drew_eckhardt says

Skin color isn't relevant to how they'll perform on the job, misrepresenting it extremely benign compared to other things politicians lie about, and relatively easy to fact check.

Lying about your race is "extremely benign"? Really? Wow.

He used the name of a well know politician as an endorsement when that politician did not endorse him. If his cousin has the same name, and he does not tell you that he's referring to his cousin rather than the well known politician, how exactly is that "easy to fact check"?

A democrat lies: "WAAAAH! OBAMA LIED!!!! OBAMA LIED!!!! BENGHAZI!!! SOCIALISM!!! Let's start 15 different threads about it and post in them every day."

A republican lies: "I don't see what the big deal is."

You guys are like a bad parody of yourselves.

The saddest thing is the voters aren't claiming to have misvoted due to some policy they like or oppose. They're just upset that they didn't vote for the right black guy

Lol democrats are even dumber then republicans

Homeboy says

Your loss! But someone as thick as you can't learn anyway. It would truly be pointless to ingest any more wisdom.

Blurtman says

Spaniards, French and Italians are indeed Latinos.

No they are not. They are Latin. Big difference, both culturally and linguistically. Unless you just get a frisson out of lumping Parisians in with Guatemalans. Now, Spain and Portugal are considered Hispanic for many purposes in the United States but that is not the same as Latino. Nowhere are Italy or France considered in the U.S. for gov't minority status.

That's not a lie douchebag.
Homeboy says

drew_eckhardt says

Skin color isn't relevant to how they'll perform on the job, misrepresenting it extremely benign compared to other things politicians lie about, and relatively easy to fact check.

Lying about your race is "extremely benign"? Really? Wow.

He used the name of a well know politician as an endorsement when that politician did not endorse him. If his cousin has the same name, and he does not tell you that he's referring to his cousin rather than the well known politician, how exactly is that "easy to fact check"?

Wow, the right wing extremists or Jim Crow wanna-bes think that it's funny or that a redneck posed as a black(which is the real funny part considering the hate for blacks by rednecks) to highlight the fact that blacks would prefer to vote for blacks over whites.
As if Obama's skin color didn't have anything to do with the handful of votes that he recieved for prez TWICE, in the south.

AND the rednecks don't know WHY. Gee, what could be the reason?

upisdown says

the hate for blacks by rednecks

rednecks racists ? ... pure myth.. wasnt true prior to year 2000...

so whats worst.. Rednecks or East Coast Liberals (who are the real racists) ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redneck

Redneck is a derogatory slang term used in reference to poor, uneducated white farmers, especially from the Southern United States. It is similar in meaning to cracker (especially regarding Georgia and Florida), hillbilly (especially regarding Appalachia and the Ozarks),[3] and white trash (but without the last term's suggestions of immorality).

By the 2000s, the term had expanded in meaning to refer to bigoted, loutish reactionaries who are opposed to modern ways,[7] and has often been used to attack white Southern conservatives. The term is used broadly to degrade working class and rural whites that are perceived by urban progressives to be insufficiently liberal.[8] At the same time, some Southern whites have reclaimed the word, using it with pride and defiance as a self-identifier

Racism claims that arise during elections are purely made up fiction just to get poor low information voters out to the polls. Otherwise they won't go out to vote.

It's usual manipulation for personal gain by politicians. Nothing new, most people buy into the scam every election.

Whatever your reasoning, one thing it ain't is a lie.

upisdown says

Wow, the right wing extremists or Jim Crow wanna-bes think that it's funny or that a redneck posed as a black(which is the real funny part considering the hate for blacks by rednecks) to highlight the fact that blacks would prefer to vote for blacks over whites.

As if Obama's skin color didn't have anything to do with the handful of votes that he recieved for prez TWICE, in the south.

AND the rednecks don't know WHY. Gee, what could be the reason?

SoftShell says

Whatever your reasoning, one thing it ain't is a lie.

Never said or implied that it was, and try and contain your glee there, Jim Crow. We get it, you don't like blacks. Should everybody be glad that you aren't advocating lynching someone?

If you weren't so f-n dense, you would have pulled the right wing extremist dumb routine out when I mentioned that blacks don't like to vote for whites, but then you would have to acknowledge the truth of THAT.

If that's what you get from my post, then you are actually the dipshit that you appear to be.

upisdown says

We get it, you don't like blacks.

All politicians pretend to be something they are not-to get elected. What's the big deal-dude is a good politiican.

What's funny is the sight of the racist liberal, handcuffed by the 11th clintonian commandment: "Thou must be PC at all times" , unable to determine what a 'lie' is, and in a hissyfit project their racism across the pixels of your monitor...

lostand confused says

All politicians pretend to be something they are not-to get elected. What's the big deal-dude is a good politiican.

lostand confused says

All politicians pretend to be something they are not-to get elected. What's the big deal-dude is a good politiican.

Democrats feel entitled to ownership of the black vote. It really ruffles their feathers when someone steals a page out of their book

SoftShell says

If that's what you get from my post, then you are actually the dipshit that
you appear to be.

LOL, and just who is the dipshit? You can't see the obvious reason WHY blacks don't trust and/or vote for whites, and especially when somebody has your attittude or disdain for a group of people.

Notice that it was some f-n redneck that had to lie and mislead with his campaign to pull off some stupid stunt, that somehow validates/vindicates ? to you, and you support the stupidity.

Dipshit? Coming from you, that's a complement, and am I ever glad that we're opposites.

errc says

Lol democrats are even dumber *then* republicans

Oh god that is fucking funny.

SoftShell says

That's not a lie douchebag.

Ooh, you called me a name. Guess you win. :rolleyes:

And to think, it was just said in another thread how fucking stupid Right wingers are.

At least the Republican voter knows who they are voting for.
I wonder exactly just how many Obama voters, didn't even know he was black in 2008?

Your numerous posts taught me how to identify and call out a douchebag.
Thanks for the lesson!
Homeboy says

SoftShell says

That's not a lie douchebag.

Ooh, you called me a name. Guess you win. :rolleyes:

Nothing you've said below changes the fact that the candidate did not lie.
Until you acknowledge that you qualify as a dipshit.
upisdown says

SoftShell says

If that's what you get from my post, then you are actually the dipshit that

you appear to be.

LOL, and just who is the dipshit? You can't see the obvious reason WHY blacks don't trust and/or vote for whites, and especially when somebody has your attittude or disdain for a group of people.

Notice that it was some f-n redneck that had to lie and mislead with his campaign to pull off some stupid stunt, that somehow validates/vindicates ? to you, and you support the stupidity.

Dipshit? Coming from you, that's a complement, and am I ever glad that we're opposites.

It can't be proven that the votes for him were only made because people thought he was black. Why it's this bring treated like it's a fact?

Politics is a bloodsport at its core. At least, it has always been this way in america and for most of old europe's history. Furthermore, this atricle supports my theory that the reps are likely to try to fracture minority vote in future national elections, such as nominating minorities like jindal, cruz, playa cain etc.

errc says

lostand confused says

All politicians pretend to be something they are not-to get elected. What's the big deal-dude is a good politiican.

Democrats feel entitled to ownership of the black vote. It really ruffles their feathers when someone steals a page out of their book

I would argue that the reps feel entitled to rule america in all branches of government. Not only that, but they have been hell bent on ideological purge of their own party. Imagine what would they do to the "Rinos" if they lived in a stalinist world!

SoftShell says

Your numerous posts taught me how to identify and call out a douchebag.

Thanks for the lesson!

Uh, nice try, but I do not call people names in lieu of argument. You are an uber right wing troll who has never had an original thought in his life. You certainly never learned anything from me.

SoftShell says

What's funny is the sight of the racist liberal, handcuffed by the 11th clintonian commandment: "Thou must be PC at all times" , unable to determine what a 'lie' is, and in a hissyfit project their racism across the pixels of your monitor...

The problem here is that you seem to think you "won" the argument by clinging to your ridiculous assertion that using the endorsement of your cousin, who happens to have the same name as a well known politician, is not "technically" a lie, and therefore is o.k.

You didn't win the argument. I simply lost interest in debating with anyone who would say something so patently ridiculous.

Your right. You just call people names because you are a liberal racist.

Homeboy says: "O.K., you've convinced me. I sure hate those god damn niggers. They are so stupid and lazy"
http://patrick.net/?p=1231884&c=1023832#comment-1023832

Homeboy says

SoftShell says

Your numerous posts taught me how to identify and call out a douchebag.


Thanks for the lesson!

Uh, nice try, but I do not call people names in lieu of argument.

epitaph says

It can't be proven that the votes for him were only made because people thought he was black. Why it's this bring treated like it's a fact?

That was my first thought as well. His lie of omission about a prestigious endorsement could have been what pushed him over the top.

SoftShell says

That's not a lie douchebag.

Homeboy says

He used the name of a well know politician as an endorsement when that politician did not endorse him.

It is called a lie of omission, and yes it is still a lie.

Yes, I did win the argument, and you ran away from defeat pissing your panties, your face a crimson red with shame....

Homeboy says

SoftShell says

What's funny is the sight of the racist liberal, handcuffed by the 11th clintonian commandment: "Thou must be PC at all times" , unable to determine what a 'lie' is, and in a hissyfit project their racism across the pixels of your monitor...

The problem here is that you seem to think you "won" the argument by clinging to your ridiculous assertion that using the endorsement of your cousin, who happens to have the same name as a well known politician, is not "technically" a lie, and therefore is o.k.

You didn't win the argument. I simply lost interest in debating with anyone who would say something so patently ridiculous.

I don't understand the shock value here.

We have had two houses of Congress and dozens of presidents pretending to be Christian for generations to get elected.

It is not the classical definition of a "lie".

However, I grant you it is a "lie of omission", as long as the long descriptor is used.

Having said that, what politician exists who has not told a "lie of omission"?? I think that is an impossibility. So all the hubbub over the OP is just a 'same old same old' situation, not worthy of discussion.

leo707 says

SoftShell says

That's not a lie douchebag.


Homeboy says

He used the name of a well know politician as an endorsement when that politician did not endorse him.

It is called a lie of omission, and yes it is still a lie

SoftShell says

Yes, I did win the argument,

The argument about the lie told concerning the endorsement? If being completely incorrect = a win, then yes you "won."

I realize that as a "conservative," your moral and ethical compass has been completely fucked up by prostrating yourself before the right-wing lies and the lying liars that tell them.

However, that does not change the fact that a lie by omission is still a lie. If you can't see that, then...well...then I am not surprised.

SoftShell says

It is not the classical definition of a "lie".

? WTF are you talking about? of course it is part of the "classical" definition of a "lie."

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/lie?s=t
lie
1. a false statement made with deliberate intent to deceive; an intentional untruth; a falsehood. Synonyms: prevarication, falsification. Antonyms: truth.

A lie of omission is indeed made with the deliberate intent to deceive. Anyone who thinks that publishing his cousins' "endorsement" was not an intentional attempt at deception is bat-shit crazy.

SoftShell says

Having said that, what politician exists who has not told a "lie of omission"??

Hmmmm...my guess at that number would be zero. Well...perhaps there are some, but they never win elections so do they really count as politicians?

SoftShell says

So all the hubbub over the OP is just a 'same old same old' situation, not worthy of discussion.

Well...all lies are not created equal, but yeah in the grand scheme of things is this really worth national discussion? I don't know. I doubt he wins his next election.

Personally I think that fraudulently claiming an endorsement is the worse lie.