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Robots/AI future, we need a full blown welfare state


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2014 Nov 24, 3:26am   13,124 views  45 comments

by Rin   ➕follow (8)   💰tip   ignore  

I need to resurrect this topic, as it's now becoming impending future.

Yes, it's true, in the future, robotic/expert systems will perform much of the work, which is paying our bills today.

http://www.marshallbrain.com/robotic-nation.htm

Thus, it's imperative that we plan for the collapse of functional society, as a *function* of low cost supercomputing and expert systems. This planning, however, should not result in what the conservatives fear... the Nanny State of Sweden or some other nation with exorbitant "cradle-to-grave" taxes.

Instead, the govt will need to exert a type of CPU/bandwidth cost averaging type of surcharge/tax, on computing services. This will need to be paid by all users, corporate and individual. Then, as time goes by, we need to determine which group of workers will be structurally displaced and put 'em on social assistance. This money will then be put back into the economy, so that the money velocity of sorts is retained.

As high speed computing keeps accelerating up its parabola, more and more people will be out of work and on welfare. In the end, it'll only be the owners and the top AI/expert system designers, who'll be employed. All other work will be done by machines. When that occurs, we'll have a stable welfare society with the elite dole bungers, producing literature, music, and the arts.

At the same time, hopefully enough sex robots to keep the population from rebelling.

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20   Rin   2014 Nov 24, 6:17am  

Reality says

People will just figure out whatever different positions of screwing that the sexbots aren't programmed to do yet.

After a few generations of 'bots, humans will simply not be able to compete. Can you imagine a three or four way with Raquel Welch, Sophia Loren, and Joan Collins, all rolling around, covered in oil, playing submission/domination games, and inviting you in, as a player-referee?

21   New Renter   2014 Nov 24, 7:08am  

Rin says

Reality says

People will just figure out whatever different positions of screwing that the sexbots aren't programmed to do yet.

After a few generations of 'bots, humans will simply not be able to compete. Can you imagine a three or four way with Raquel Welch, Sophia Loren, and Joan Collins, all rolling around, covered in oil, playing submission/domination games, and inviting you in, as a player-referee?

And with absolutely no chance of getting slapped with a paternity suit, no whining about making an honest women out of her, no STDs ever regardless of how raw it gets, no jeleousy (unless you're into that kind of thing), no blathering conversations that you don't want, no whining for presents, no headaches or other excuses, no expensive shopping trips. No drama at all.

OTOH it might get kind of boring after a while. One should be lucky to live that long.

22   New Renter   2014 Nov 24, 7:12am  

The Original Bankster says

New Renter says

The Original Bankster says

we need to go into space.

You first.

I suppose your plan to drink wine in Napa Valley while you watch Mexicans cut your lawn?

Beats dying a horrible death alone and far from home.

23   Rin   2014 Nov 24, 7:38am  

New Renter says

And with absolutely no chance of getting slapped with a paternity suit, no whining about making an honest women out of her, no STDs ever regardless of how raw it gets, no jeleousy (unless you're into that kind of thing), no blathering conversations that you don't want, no whining for presents, no headaches or other excuses, no expensive shopping trips. No drama at all.

OTOH it might get kind of boring after a while. One should be lucky to live that long.

What boredom? Raquel is also my research assistant in my lab.

Plus, I also have a girl band, which can perform classics by Annie Lennox, Chrissie Hynde, Tina Turner, and so on.

And yes, I'll program in some jealousy scenarios like who's got the nicest assets and which ones are doing it for me, during the orgies. Yes, it can be quite entertaining.

24   Reality   2014 Nov 24, 8:34am  

New Renter says

After a few generations of 'bots, humans will simply not be able to compete. Can you imagine a three or four way with Raquel Welch, Sophia Loren, and Joan Collins, all rolling around, covered in oil, playing submission/domination games, and inviting you in, as a player-referee?

And with absolutely no chance of getting slapped with a paternity suit, no whining about making an honest women out of her, no STDs ever regardless of how raw it gets, no jeleousy (unless you're into that kind of thing), no blathering conversations that you don't want, no whining for presents, no headaches or other excuses, no expensive shopping trips. No drama at all.

How is that substantively different from masturbating while watching porn?

Part of the challenge in playing with real women is that, sometimes you do not win. How many times do you want to play tennis against a kid that guarantees your own win?

25   indigenous   2014 Nov 24, 8:42am  

Reality says

How many times do you want to play tennis against a kid that guarantees your own win?

Similar to arguing economics with liberals? It gets old, even a one eyed man is king in the land of the blind.

26   Rin   2014 Nov 24, 9:13am  

Reality says

Part of the challenge in playing with real women is that, sometimes you do not win. How many times do you want to play tennis against a kid that guarantees your own win?

Isn't that basically just adding another subroutine where sometimes, Raquel says no but then, has a one on one with Sophia, while getting Joan jealous? You can be a spectator when those fuzzy controllers kick in. A variant on that theme is that Joan then tries to scheme with you, to break up the other hotties. There's a lot that can done to keep things interesting.

27   Heraclitusstudent   2014 Nov 24, 9:39am  

Rin says

Raquel says no but then, has a one on one with Sophia, while getting Joan jealous?

Too complicated. Get uploaded: you'll just have to push the button to get a 24h orgasm and be ready to do it again.

28   Rin   2014 Nov 24, 9:47am  

Heraclitusstudent says

Rin says

Raquel says no but then, has a one on one with Sophia, while getting Joan jealous?

Too complicated. Get uploaded: you'll just have to push the button to get a 24h orgasm and be ready to do it again.

One product generation at a time.

29   Reality   2014 Nov 24, 11:22am  

Rin says

Isn't that basically just adding another subroutine

No. There are zillions of ways in real life the outcome is less than one wishes for, and it's not just whether getting sex or not, but often the after-math. I'm not jaded enough to think all outcomes can be anticipated ahead of time. I just had a very unexpected outcome with a girl half my age recently. Life is a learning experience.

30   Rin   2014 Nov 24, 11:52am  

Reality says

I just had a very unexpected outcome with a girl half my age recently. Life is a learning experience.

Ok, let's just hope that she doesn't file false rape charges in the future. You know, the one where an aggressive older man, took advantage of an inexperienced youth.

31   Reality   2014 Nov 24, 2:09pm  

Rin says

Reality says

I just had a very unexpected outcome with a girl half my age recently. Life is a learning experience.

Ok, let's just hope that she doesn't file false rape charges in the future. You know, the one where an aggressive older man, took advantage of an inexperienced youth.

LOL. I think I erred on the side of being too non-aggressive and non-controlling, precisely because of the fear you mentioned. I can see why many young hotties fall for the real thugs with nothing to lose. It is a dilemma.

32   Rin   2014 Nov 24, 2:17pm  

Reality says

LOL. I think I erred on the side of being too non-aggressive and non-controlling, precisely because of the fear you mentioned. I can see why many young hotties fall for the real thugs with nothing to lose. It is a dilemma.

Once again, given the culture/society we live in, tells me that an bunch of expert system 'bots of Ms Welch, Ms Loren, and Ms Collins, beats being around a bunch of college age bimbos (even if they have a 4.0) who can take a man to the cleaners.

33   Heraclitusstudent   2014 Nov 24, 2:21pm  

Reality says

I just had a very unexpected outcome with a girl half my age recently. Life is a learning experience.

Let me guess: she tied you to the bed and ran away with your wallet?

34   Reality   2014 Nov 24, 9:51pm  

Heraclitusstudent says

Reality says

I just had a very unexpected outcome with a girl half my age recently. Life is a learning experience.

Let me guess: she tied you to the bed and ran away with your wallet?

LOL. I think the problem was that I did not whip out the bondage kit for extra entertainment. I'm not going to kiss and tell.

35   Peter P   2014 Nov 24, 9:55pm  

A welfare state is unnecessary.

An army of self-replicating, super-human robotic cops can maintain order in any kind of economy.

36   New Renter   2014 Nov 25, 12:36am  

Heraclitusstudent says

Reality says

I just had a very unexpected outcome with a girl half my age recently. Life is a learning experience.

Let me guess: she tied you to the bed and ran away with your wallet?

The mouth sores should have clued you in.

Reality says

I'm not going to kiss and tell.

How do you expect to get treatment if you don't tell your doctor what happened?

37   New Renter   2014 Nov 25, 12:37am  

Rin says

Reality says

I just had a very unexpected outcome with a girl half my age recently. Life is a learning experience.

Ok, let's just hope that she doesn't file false rape charges in the future. You know, the one where an aggressive older man, took advantage of an inexperienced youth.

Now THAT's a learning experience.

38   New Renter   2014 Nov 25, 1:18am  

Reality says

I just had a very unexpected outcome with a girl half my age recently. Life is a learning experience.

http://www.youtube.com/embed/bl6z03A5zRs

39   MisdemeanorRebel   2014 Nov 25, 1:26am  

Heraclitusstudent says

2 - "Butlerian Jihad"

Two thumbs up for Dune Reference

40   The Original Bankster   2014 Nov 25, 4:04am  

Peter P says

An army of self-replicating, super-human robotic cops can maintain order in any kind of economy.

Part man. Part Robot. All Cop.

http://www.youtube.com/embed/t1_Pw563opc

41   Rin   2014 Nov 26, 12:29am  

New Renter says

Reality says

I'm not going to kiss and tell.

How do you expect to get treatment if you don't tell your doctor what happened?

This is the sort of thing which ruins a man's reputation and career, esp in America.

If one's not in let's say Brazil or some other country, where it's culturally normal for an older guy to have a younger mistress, then you're in lawsuit territory.

I just hope that Reality's gal there is not typical, of the *wronged* woman, who then goes after a man's wallet.

42   yup1   2014 Nov 26, 1:51am  

dodgerfanjohn says

The worlds far more likely to look like free jack rather than Wall-E or the Capitol in Hunger Games.

Idiocracy is more like it.

43   John Bailo   2014 Nov 26, 1:55am  

HydroCabron says

a government designed for a pre-industrial agrarian backwater is best!

I absolutely agree.

21st century technology, especially clean energy like hydrogen, which requires a lot less "stuff" to make it do work, will not only reduce the need for labor, but reduce the need for everything.

For example, if a single octocopter can ferry goods from central stores to homes in a wide area, then people don't have to drag their carcasses into 2-ton vehicles just to get a quart of milk. Doesn't that reduce the need for everything?

This is why the Wal*Mart economy, rather than Industrial Bureaucracy of the Obama-Clinton-Sanders-Warren sort, is really the future. Super cheap goods bought with very little money.

44   New Renter   2014 Nov 26, 2:38am  

John Bailo says

HydroCabron says

a government designed for a pre-industrial agrarian backwater is best!

I absolutely agree.

So does this man:

45   The Original Bankster   2014 Nov 26, 6:14am  

John Bailo says

21st century technology, especially clean energy like hydrogen, which requires a lot less "stuff" to make it do work, will not only reduce the need for labor, but reduce the need for everything.

will it affect Napa Valley?

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