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HEY YOU says

For patnetters with mirrors, check them out & you will see an asshole.

I've got proof!

You checked your mirror and saw one?

just_passing_irredeemable says

Back then in Arkansas she didn't shave her legs/pits, wear deodorant or shower frequently. No joke, it's well documented. Mean as fuck to people back then too.

Yuck. No wonder Bill went down on other women.

Actually Dan, many women are rather boring, which is why I prefer Montreal esc.ort gals.

When a woman tells me that she listens to Metallica, what she really means is that she'd listened to 'Nothing Else Matters', the love ballad. Snooz ... that's not a true Metallica fan.

www.youtube.com/embed/waBb-UM5m4g

Out of interest Rin, how old are you? You sound suspiciously like a fantasist. Your immature attitude towards women, dubious escort tales etc. etc., and now Metallica. You quite sure you aren't a teenager creating an online character?

Rashomon says

Out of interest Rin, how old are you? You sound suspiciously like a fantasist. Your immature attitude towards women, dubious escort tales etc. etc., and now Metallica. You quite sure you aren't a teenager creating an online character?

Nope, mid-to-late 30s, haven't dated since Mar/Apr 2011. Remember, Metallica was popular when we were kids, not today.

And thus, I'd already divested myself from wasting my free time in the constant mingling which my single friends partake in, weekend after weekend.

Rin says

And thus, I'd already divested myself from wasting my free time in the constant mingling which my single friends partake in, weekend after weekend.

Hilarious. Were you bullied at school much?

Rashomon says

Hilarious. Were you bullied at school much?

Nope, but nice try at playing the shaming game.

If you hire Hillary as a prostie, you better be comfortable wearing the maid, nurses and little schoolgirl outfits.

Ceffer says

If you hire Hillary as a prostie, you better be comfortable wearing the maid, nurses and little schoolgirl outfits.

No, it would be an es.cort/actor, playing Hillary. Clearly, you don't want the real deal in that situation.

I sure wouldn't want to have to wear a French maids outfit, have my ass shlonged with a knobby strap on, then get a bill for $500.

Of course if it is IHLlary, it would probably go for her smallest speaker engagement fee of 250k.

You only get a blow job if you're a bankster.

Rin says

Nope, but nice try at playing the shaming game.

You just seem rather peculiar. Wondering what the reason was.

Rashomon says

You just seem very peculiar. Wondering what the reason was.

Very simple, I don't buy into mainstream indoctrination.

My sister has histrionic personality disorder and has ruined many lives around her. Ppl spend an inordinate amount of energy, attempting to justify her behavior because she's a 'victim'.

At the same time, when men are routinely getting divorced (~70% of which are initiated by women, BTW), losing hundreds of thousands if not millions of dollars, instead of simply seeing es.cort gals in Canada, who can provide a good time, and yes, even listen to some classic hard rock, there's really no incentive in dating.

I don't think this is very complicated.

Rin says

Very simple, I don't buy into mainstream indoctrination.

My sister has histrionic personality disorder and has ruined many lives around her. Ppl spend an inordinate amount of energy, attempting to justify her behavior because she's a 'victim'.

In other words you haven't had much luck with the ladies. Don't use your sister as an excuse.
Rin says

At the same time, when men are routinely getting divorced (~70% of which are initiated by women, BTW), losing hundreds of thousands if not millions of dollars, instead of simply seeing es.cort gals in Canada, who can provide a good time, and yes, even listen to some classic hard rock, there's really no incentive in dating.

If you're that worried about it, then don't marry the women you date. It's really not that complicated. You might even learn to develop conversation skills with the opposite sex, develop a relationship, feel some empathy...

And BTW, it is possible to get an es.cort to play a famous person. I did it with an Oliver Newton John look-a-like in Australia, who'd pretended to be Liv.

Another friend of mine, did it with a J Lo look-a-like in Ontario.

Rashomon says

In other words you haven't had much luck with the ladies.

Just recently, I'd turned down a visiting scholar from Chile. So no, I can get women. Remember, I work in finance. It's not that hard.

Instead, I choose to live my life, my way.

Like I'd said, you're playing the shaming game.

Rin says

Just recently, I'd turned down a visiting scholar from Chile. So no, I can get women. Remember, I work in finance. It's not that hard.

Doesn't matter what you do if you lack the skills to chat up women.

Rin says

Like I'd said, you're playing the shaming game.

You don't seem to relate to such things, so why worry? You certainly wouldn't be on here boasting about shagging skanky whores (as if it was something to be proud of) if shaming was an issue. By the way, why are you on here bragging about sleeping with hookers? It's not exactly something to be proud of.

Just don't hire a prostie to play Glenn Close in "Fatal Attraction".

Rashomon says

Rin says

Just recently, I'd turned down a visiting scholar from Chile. So no, I can get women. Remember, I work in finance. It's not that hard.

Doesn't matter what you do if you lack the skills to chat up women.

What BS, she was after me. I already had her.

I simply said no because one, I work six days per week. And on my off day, I f.uck hoes. I don't care for relationships anymore. Is that so hard to understand? Are you really such a one dimensional conformist?

Rin says

What BS, she was after me. I already had her.

I simply said no because one, I work six days per week. And on my off day, I f.uck hoes. I don't care for relationships anymore. Is that so hard to understand? Are you really such a one dimensional conformist?

Sure, sure. Again, why do you feel the need to come onto a forum of strangers and brag about such things. Very peculiar.

Rashomon says

Sure, sure. Again, why do you feel the need to come onto a forum of strangers and brag about such things. Very peculiar.

Because I can't do it in the office. Remember, I live in society and I have to live by its rules.

Rin says

Because I can't do it in the office. Remember, I live in society and I have to live by its rules.

What? Most people don't feel the need to brag about having to pay hookers for sex, yet you choose to do it on a one time housing forum. Like I said, very peculiar.

BTW Rashomon, do you think that Turtledove, talking about exposing her breasts in PatNet is somehow enlightened? I don't recall you attempting to shame her ... a married woman w/ kids, acting like a college bimbo on spring break?

Instead, it's obvious that you'd rather label an honest guy who one, doesn't BS women for a one night stand, which I could have easily done with the Chilean, while breaking her heart a few weeks later, but would rather live life on his own terms.

Rin says

BTW Rashomon, do you think that Turtledove, talking about exposing her breasts in PatNet is somehow enlightened? I don't recall you attempting to shame her ... a married woman w/ kids, acting like a college bimbo on spring break?

Didn't read it, so didn't comment on it. If she talked about doing it, then it does seem a rather pathetic attention seeking exercise. Happy now?

Rashomon says

I'm European.

Then grow up in America and you'll see continuous brainwashing.

Even in high school, they'd sent warning to parents, telling their kids that underage drinking and strippers were rampant up in Montreal, as a way of shaming the kids into behaving, once the border was crossed during school trips.

Rin says

Instead, it's obvious that you'd rather label an honest guy who one, doesn't BS women for a one night stand, which I could have easily done with the Chilean, while breaking her heart a few weeks later, but would rather live life on his own terms.

You do realize that a lot of women aren't that susceptible to getting their heart broken after a shag or two. I'd hazard a guess that it's more the men that suffer from that affliction.

Rashomon says

You do realize that a lot of women aren't that susceptible to getting their heart broken after a shag or two. I'd hazard a guess that it's more the men that suffer more from that affliction.

She wanted a relationship.

Rin says

Even in high school, they'd sent warning to parents, telling their kids that underage drinking and strippers were rampant up in Montreal, as a way of shaming the kids into behaving, once the border was crossed during school trips.

That isn't shaming kids into behaving. It's just giving them obvious pointers about what to do.

In two hours, I'd be heading out to do another presentation. And thus, my time at the PatNet bar over.

So yes, I have neither the time nor the energy for a relationship.

Rin says

She wanted a relationship.

Then find someone who doesn't. Or hell, try and find someone you'd like to have a relationship with. It has its benefits you know.

Rin says

In two hours, I'd be heading out to do another presentation. And thus, my time at the PatNet bar over.

So yes, I have neither the time nor the energy for a relationship.

It's shocking that you have to work. Oh, hang on, no it isn't. Pretty much everyone juggles careers and relationships.

Rashomon says

Pretty much everyone juggles careers and relationships.

You are such a conformist.

Rin says

You are such a conformist.

That's life. It has nothing to do with conforming.

Rin says

This is called, going out for drinks after work.

In America, we're not allowed to partake in this activity

WTF are you talking about? You must be living in some kind of alternative "America".

Straw Man says

WTF are you talking about? You must be living in some kind of alternative "America".

Yes, seeing hoes is not sanctioned in America, outside of the Nevada deserts.

Rin says

Yes, seeing hoes is not sanctioned in America, outside of the Nevada deserts.

He was talking about your strange comment about after work drinks.

Rashomon says

Rin says

Yes, seeing hoes is not sanctioned in America, outside of the Nevada deserts.

He was talking about your strange comment about after work drinks.

This.

Rin says

Actually Dan, many women are rather boring, which is why I prefer Montreal esc.ort gals.

True, which is why I prefer women who are intelligence, funny, or better yet, both. Hudson Leick, Emma Stone, and Taylor Swift all qualify as both.
Rin says

Nope, but nice try at playing the shaming game.

Trolls are so pathetic. Always blame the messenger.

Rashomon says

Well, I'm not surprised Dan joins in given his weird posts on Taylor Swift.

Yes, respect and admiration must seem weird to a freak who has never been admired for anything.

Rin says

Don't worry, he'll get over her.

Why bother? It's just a pipe dream, but one that reminds me what the standard for marrying a woman should be. Every time I think about whether or not a woman is long-term relationship or wife material, I compare her to Taylor Swift. Needless to say, it keeps me single and avoids losing half my wealth and my sanity to some selfish, crazy, and vindictive person with a pretty face. And quite frankly, the younger me would have been naive enough to marry the first pretty face that pretended to love me. So it's nice to have a reminder of what a woman should be when you're in a society where women are so selfish and disloyal and geared towards short-term sexual relationships.

Back in the 1940s, most American women were like Taylor Swift and they made wives. And before any pseudo-feminist gets triggered, Swift is no subservient woman. The qualities I'm talking about are honesty, loyalty, respectability, intelligence, the willingness to work hard to accomplish things, and empathy. These are qualities most American women lack today. And yes, most American men also lack these qualities, and that is because women today do not seek such qualities in men, but they should.

Rin says

Rashomon says

What? Most people don't feel the need to brag about having to pay hookers for sex, yet you choose to do it on a one time housing forum. Like I said, very peculiar.

This is called, going out for drinks after work.

There is nothing morally wrong with prostitution, and it should not be illegal. The illegality of prostitution is what causes all the bad things about it: STDs, violence, drug addition, the inability to get support for problems. Make something illegal and those who partake in it lose the protection of the law. Thus making prostitution illegal is the greatest harm the law does to women in our society.

That said, what the hell is prostitution anyway? All heterosexual men pay women for sex in one way or another. If you buy a woman an expensive diamond ring and marry her, how the hell isn't that the exchange of wealth for sex? Does it have to be a cash transaction? So Joe gives a woman a diamond ring in exchange for sex, and it's not an engagement but rather just payment for the sex, then it's not prostitution, right? So used diamond rings simply become an alternative currency.

I take out women to nice restaurants and pay for the dates. Typically sex happens on the third or fourth date. Since I'm spending a good $200 in romance on these women before sex, does that make them prostitutes?

The artificial distinction of what is and is not prostitution is, in fact, completely arbitrary. We live in a society in which women have short-term sexual relationships, including intercourse, with men who spend money on them and take them to nice places. And yes, a lot of these women are interested in me because I have a nice car and wouldn't have given me the time of day in my first car. Yes, women are shallow. So are men. It would be nice if we didn't care about superficial things like beauty and wealth, but we do. So in almost every romantic relationship between a man and a woman, the man gives some kind of financial resource to the woman. This is just part of human nature, and in fact, even predates homo sapiens.

So calling prostitution immoral is hypocritical bullshit, and making it illegal serves no purpose but to harm both men and women. Yes, there are trade-offs between pursuing short-term relationships and obtaining a long-term one, but prostitution is not the reason that the American mating market has drastically shifted towards short-term sexual relationships.

As for the prostitutes Rin visits, I can only imagine they are a greatly different class than the ones you see on the local news -- I wouldn't touch those with a ten foot pole. I have no idea how he gets them. Come to think of it, I've never seen a hooker walking on the street except in movies and t.v. shows. I have absolutely no street wisdom. But if it makes Rin happy, and it's consensual, and Rin stays safe, why should he be ashamed of it? He's hurting no one and contributing to the local economy.

I image that Rin's paying more for sex with hookers than I spend on date and hook ups, but I could be wrong. I spend about $200 and a good ten to twenty hours of my time on a woman before sex. And, of course, I spend about $80 on one or two dates each with several woman that goes no where for every "success". So I'm probably spending in time and cash about $1500 for each time I get laid with a new woman. How does that expense compare to prostitutes, Rin?

In any case, I like going out to a nice restaurant with a beautiful woman even if I don't get laid. The meal and conversation is an enjoyable and rewarding experience in itself. It makes me feel that I'm not wasting my life away doing nothing but work and PatNet. Granted, you do get some dates where there is zero chemistry, and they get awkward, but that's just part of life. I never blame the woman. Some people just don't jive.

Ceffer says

If you hire Hillary as a prostie,

I was thinking that Hillary would be the one paying for sex.

It is clear that Rin has an anti-social psychological disorder, probably aspergers and has an inability to connect with people on a deep personal level. He has found an outlet for his physical requirements, but he has no need for personal intimacy, or no capability of creating it. Hence his use of patnet for socializing. Apparently he is unaware of his psychological dysfunction and has created a rationalization around it where his abnormal behavior is justified by women's behavior towards men and the negative aspects of the society we live in. A healthy human strives for personal, intimate relationships with other humans, despite the challenges that must be overcome. This isn't an adaptation of a normal person to a dysfunctional society, as Rin would like to present it. It is an adaptation of a dysfunctional person to a normal society.