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bob2356 says

White supremacists and the KKK aren't watching NPR.

White supremacists and the KKK barely exist at all. The few that do are given such colossal media hype and coverage that it must be quite a rush.

bob2356 says

Your history is very weak. Celebs, pundits,media never cheered hitler on. It didn't happen.

In Nazi Germany it was the people who cheered on Hitler. They righteously virtue signaled by demonizing the Jews (especially the bankers and media). The average German didn't know about the death camps, but they certainly knew their jewish neighbors were being rounded up and taken away. They saw Jews as a legit threat to the German people, and therefore hating Jews is what a good German was supposed to do. Germans are a dutiful, capable, loyal, good people... Nazi germany is what happens when good people become blinded by righteousness and fear.

bob2356 says

Yet another believer that it's only bad when it's not my team.

Libertarians have never done anything like this. We hold constitutionally guaranteed personal liberties above any group or ideological loyalty. We are like the ACLU in the 80's who defended the neo-NAZI's right to demonstrate in Skokie...absolutely the right thing to do, even if the content is deplorable.

rando says

bob2356 says

White supremacists and the KKK aren't watching NPR.

White supremacists and the KKK barely exist at all. The few that do are given such colossal media hype and coverage that it must be quite a rush.

Exactly. Are white supremacists your example of righteous hate in the right?

http://www.cc.com/video-clips/yptzsa/the-daily-show-with-jon-stewart-white-hot-fun

Yeah, try again.

CBOEtrader says

In Nazi Germany it was the people who cheered on Hitler. They righteously virtue signaled by demonizing the Jews (especially the bankers and media).

That was after hitler took over the government. You said it made the nazi's happen.

rando says

White supremacists and the KKK barely exist at all.

Never been to idaho have you? The phrase was tiny fraction. There are way more than enough KKK and white supremacists to be a tiny fraction.

TBC, you still can't show an example of the right supporting violence against other americans.

Admit it, this new crop of righteous violence is uniquely blind and dangerous.

CBOEtrader says

Exactly. Are white supremacists your example of righteous hate in the right?

You are saying they are liberals? There is plenty of righteous hate on the right, you asked of an example of violence.

CBOEtrader says

Libertarians have never done anything like this

Only libertarians are the right? You guys kicked out the rest of the conservative movement? Where did they go?

Still no example of righteously supported violence from the right.

You are lost in your own rhetoric. Its how you rationalize your illogical support of the most hateful, dangerous political movement our country has seen in decades. Keep it up, you are creating more Trump 2020 voters w every head-in-the-sand reply.

The Chicago 4 who kidnapped and tortured a trump supporter were so intensely righteous, that they broadcast their crimes LIVE ON FACEBOOK TO THOUSANDS OF VIEWERS. I have never seen anything like this in the US... and I've lived in every corner of our country: Texas, NY, CA, VA and IL, in both rural and city communities. Never, ever, ever have I seen this level of vitriol and violence spewed at innocent Americans.

CBOEtrader says

TBC, you still can't show an example of the right supporting violence against other americans.

Admit it, this new crop of righteous violence is uniquely blind and dangerous.

You're kidding me, right?

"The right" is The State here in America.
Right wing government
Right wing laws
Right wing enforcement

And the government and the laws, are all set up to terrorize minorities. Ever been in a poor neighborhood before? Everyone lives in fear of the police.

The Authoritarians are rooting for our jackboots to kill our own citizens

And the protesters are the dangerous ones?

You guys need to get out once in awhile

Never, ever, ever have I seen this level of vitriol and violence spewed at innocent Americans.

Try being an American black person who works a crappy FT job, and merely wants to kick back and smoke some grass at the end of a long week of work

The Right has millions of armed thugs in place to kick in your door and murder you for this. Literally.

And they explain away every act of injustice as if it was the victims fault. If only they'd obey the unAmerican laws,,,if only they'd obey the police

errc says

The Right has millions of armed thugs in place to kick in your door and murder you for this. Literally.

Literally Hitler himself will come kill you right?

errc, thanks for providing a perfect example of our current insanity. ladies and gentleman, ^^ this is what crazy looks like. sprinkle in some righteousness and we have problems...

rando says

I used to like Falco. He has his own unique accent in German. Affected, but fun.

When I was a kid I thought it was "Hot Potato, hot potato, hot potato, oooh, rock me hot potato".

CBOEtrader says

The Chicago 4 who kidnapped and tortured a trump supporter were so intensely righteous, that they broadcast their crimes LIVE ON FACEBOOK TO THOUSANDS OF VIEWERS. I have never seen anything like this in the US... and I've lived in every corner of our country: Texas, NY, CA, VA and IL, in both rural and city communities. Never, ever, ever have I seen this level of vitriol and violence spewed at innocent Americans.

And they were apologized for and explained away by CNN "Analysts".

I guarantee you if some rednecks abducted and tortured a mentally ill Black Teen, the MSM and the Authorities wouldn't be saying "Well, they're young, young people do stupid things... no evidence of racism..."

They're charged with a hate crime only because of public outrage - and because, ludicrously, it's hate for the mentally handicapped, not for being White. Even though they repeatedly call him White Boy, not retard or cripple..

rando says

give people their sweet hit of "justified" "anti-fascist" violence without feeling in the least bit bad or ironic about being the exact thing they are complaining about.

Yes. This is so true for all 3 of the 127 million democrats that exhibit this behavior. Bravo Patrick !

bob2356 says

Your history is very weak. Celebs, pundits,media never cheered hitler on. It didn't happen.

Other than in the right wing echo chamber's imagination I haven't seen any righteous cheering on. some justification, but no approval never mind cheering on.

Correct. But I give him and Patrick credit for trying really hard to come up with a narrative that makes libbies the bad guys in this Trump fiasco.

CBOEtrader says

errc, thanks for providing a perfect example of our current insanity. ladies and gentleman, ^^ this is what crazy looks like. sprinkle in some righteousness and we have problems...

Right. Silence the crazy voice that says:

errc says

"The right" is The State here in America.

Right wing government

Right wing laws

Right wing enforcement

Can you say prison industrial complex ? Yeah, we better pressure errc to be quiet. Let him know we think he's crazy for saying that stuff and he needs to shut up.

Wait, how did you say fascism comes about ?

I thought it was the slow drift that many of the people don't even notice. Although it takes some really creative rationalization to see Trump as part of a slow drift.

marcus says

I give him and Patrick credit for trying really hard to come up with a narrative that makes libbies the bad guys in this Trump fiasco

"After a day of getting slammed for that tweet, Silverman followed up by saying she let fear get the better of her:"

http://www.mediaite.com/online/sarah-silverman-walks-back-tweet-calling-for-military-coup-in-response-to-trump/

This is better than Glenn Beck that takes 10 years to walk back the stuff he says, or Rush Limbaugh who never does. I'll stand by this:

rando says

marcus says

I give him and Patrick credit for trying really hard to come up with a narrative that makes libbies the bad guys in this Trump fiasco

CBOEtrader says

We hold constitutionally guaranteed personal liberties above any group or ideological loyalty. We are like the ACLU in the 80's who defended the neo-NAZI's right to demonstrate in Skokie...absolutely the right thing to do, even if the content is deplorable.

And one day hopefully people will talk about how patrick.net did the right thing too, by promoting free speech even if the content is deplorable on either side. :-)

Apoc is Ador is my favorite pat.netter .

You've kept character for years. Is this an art project? I'll bet you are PC as fuck at work, constrained by a suit/tie like an obedient cis/white/male, haha

The women's marches were representative of the mainstream left opposition to trump. They were friendly and peaceful. The Berkley riots were as representative of the left as Dylan Roof is of the right.

CBOEtrader says

errc says

The Right has millions of armed thugs in place to kick in your door and murder you for this. Literally.

Literally Hitler himself will come kill you right?

errc, thanks for providing a perfect example of our current insanity. ladies and gentleman, ^^ this is what crazy looks like. sprinkle in some righteousness and we have problems...

What is crazy about the truth?

Are you denying reality, or just ignorant of it?

errc says

What is crazy about the truth?

The right has millions of armed thugs?

Have not seen them. Where are they hiding these millions?

The Police State is an armed malitia of right wing militants. Carrying out right wing laws for their right wing government.

Have you somehow missed all the calls from right wingers for the police to start shooting the protesters?

I've seen at least four different posters on your site say this.

Local police
State Police
Litany of federal agencies that enforce right wing government right wing laws

Or did you think that the Police State and Prison system are leftist entities?

Who are those crazy leftists protesters clashing with?

errc says

The Police State is an armed malitia of right wing militants. Carrying out right wing laws for their right wing government.

Were the police also right wing thugs when Obama was Executive in Chief for 8 years? What about when D's also controlled congress in 2009?

This is lunacy.

Were the police also right wing thugs when Obama was Executive in Chief for 8 years? What about when D's also controlled congress in 2009?

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Yes

Do you believe The Police State is a left wing entity?

CBOEtrader says

The Chicago 4 who kidnapped and tortured a trump supporter were so intensely righteous, that they broadcast their crimes LIVE ON FACEBOOK TO THOUSANDS OF VIEWERS. I have never seen anything like this in the US... and I've lived in every corner of our country: Texas, NY, CA, VA and IL, in both rural and city communities. Never, ever, ever have I seen this level of vitriol and violence spewed at innocent Americans.

Yep. They had a convicted kidnapper, torturer, and murderer of a Gay Man as a big speaker at the Women's March on DC, and the MSM didn't acknowledge that or thought it was "newsworthy" - Donna Hylton.

http://www.nytimes.com/1985/04/08/nyregion/the-city-7-held-in-slaying-of-man-in-trunk.html
Her self-righteousness about her torturer and murder inspired a Psychology Today Article. "He was just a homo, anyway"
https://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/199507/crime-and-punishment
Now she's a "Civil Rights" activist. However, I guess he was a real estate agent.

The BLM Ideology and the poem they recite at meetings comes from the writings of a Black Lesbian Communist Cop-killer, Black Panther and Black Liberation Army member, currently hiding in exile in Cuba after fleeing the authorities named Assata Shakur.

It is our duty to fight for our freedom
It is our duty to win.
We must love each other and support each other.
We have nothing to lose but our chains.

I guess she's replacing Mumia Abu-Jamal as the Left's most beloved radical cop-killer. Maybe because the Women and Lesbian is like an added bonus to Oppressed Minority "Righteous" Fury.

Another example of Media Lies by Omission.

T L Lipsovich says

Assata Shakur

Tupac Shakur godmother

CBOEtrader says

I want to talk about the Krauts.

It's not a coincidence that German culture spawned both the Nazi's AND is at the center of today's PC culture. As a society, virtue signalling is far more important than individual liberty to them. Righteousness is more important than truth.It was a recipe for fascism in the 30's, just like today.

For the record, my grandmother is a german immigrant. My baddass polish grampa knocked her up in Germany right after ww2. She came to ellis island holding my infant mother, and started her new american life in detroit, back in 1948. I still have Opa's nazi paraphernalia, pictures, etc... We even have his fucking journal.

Germans in WW2 were drunk on their own righteousness while acting out violence for the 3rd Reich. Who does that sound like?...

You sound like my German friends from eastern Bavaria - wow.
Would be in your debt if you could find any Psych Journals on this (Although your IQ might be quite high!)

marcus says

This is better than Glenn Beck that takes 10 y

Was Glenn beck a fan of trump?

MMR says

Was Glenn beck a fan of trump?

No, Glenn Beck hated Trump.

rando says

White supremacists and the KKK barely exist at all.

I don't agree with that. And Trump will cause a greater number of people to become them.

Drumpf is from Germany, in case you all forgot. He believes he has a special gene. Yes he has a special gene to screw people over.

CBOEtrader says

Righteousness turns us into Nazis.

You are truly an idiot. You don't even know what you say. Nazis are Nazis because they are unrighteous racists. They cannot distinguish between peaceful factions and non peaceful factions. There is something missing in their brains. They reason like sub humans. I know that technically, they are humans, but there is something wrong with them.

T L Lipsovich says

rando says

I used to like Falco. He has his own unique accent in German. Affected, but fun.

When I was a kid I thought it was "Hot Potato, hot potato, hot potato, oooh, rock me hot potato".

Falco was actually Austrian, but their accent is close to Bavarian. He was a very talented musician very much ahead of his time. And patnet style politically incorrect, as 'Jeannie' was censored by many outlets back then - which of course only had the opposite effect and made him more popular and famous. Similar to the Trump election.

Gary Anderson says

Drumpf is from Germany, in case you all forgot. He believes he has a special gene. Yes he has a special gene to screw people over.

Actually his mother was of Scottish origin. Hence the reddish hair and interest in business.

Need to cover all the stereotypes if we're going to cover any.

rando says

bob2356 says

White supremacists and the KKK aren't watching NPR.

White supremacists and the KKK barely exist at all. The few that do are given such colossal media hype and coverage that it must be quite a rush.

In fact NPR now has 24/7 devoted to 2 topics

1) Trump's latest inaccurate statement

2) The nations largest terror attack which was domestically grown, they are promoting their documentary on McVeigh nonstop, of course leading in that it was the largest and home-grown.

For a while they also 24/7 covered Turmp's gmail twitter account and possible use of a linked unsecured Android phone - while being mostly silent on Clinton's email scandal during the election campaign - but they recently stopped as nobody gave a fuck.

NPR has completely gone down the drain.

Gary Anderson says

Nazis are Nazis because they are unrighteous racists. They cannot distinguish between peaceful factions and non peaceful factions. There is something missing in their brains. They reason like sub humans. I know that technically, they are humans, but there is something wrong with them.

So you could never be a Nazi, right?

rando says

Gary Anderson says

Nazis are Nazis because they are unrighteous racists. They cannot distinguish between peaceful factions and non peaceful factions. There is something missing in their brains. They reason like sub humans. I know that technically, they are humans, but there is something wrong with them.

So you could never be a Nazi, right?

Unrighteous racists? Haha, almost noone wakes up in the morning and thinks "Lets go fuck over the world and do evil shit." Soldiers almost always justify their own violence. Even Hitler believed he was doing the right thing for the human race.

"Haha, almost noone wakes up in the morning and thinks "Lets go fuck over the world and do evil shit."

You clearly haven't met Steve Bannon.

mell says

In fact NPR now has 24/7 devoted to 2 topics

How cute that you watch NPR 24/7.

THe idea that righteousness causes Naziism is absurd.

SOme righteousness is idiots such as TPB or the Chicago 4, other times people are righteous about true grivances about the behavior of criminals or corrupt governments or whatever.

Being righteous or self righteous doesn't mean you're wrong. Sometimes something is bad enough that people stand up and strongly object to it. Of course those who disagree can call it righteousness. When people righteousy claim that free speech on college campuses should be protected, they're correct, and others should join them. Righteousness is beside the point.

Sure an angry mob that won't wait for due process ? That's wrong (almost always).

I don't know what the word is to describe my feelings about Thump's comments about police doing asset forfeiture, but I could probably sound self righteous about it. WHAT THE FUCK ?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-asset-forfeiture_us_589a16bce4b0c1284f28be3c?ref=patrick.net&b9p9nzxoft21emi&

Does he hope to use this on his enemies one day ?