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How do you know that?
I guess since he had a gun it made him feel confident getting aggressive with Trayvon. Even if Trayvon did punch the weird stranger that came up on him acting aggressive, so ? What's he supposed to do ? Assume good intentions ? Why didn't Zimmerman assume good intentions ?
Which persons behavior warranted the belief of bad intentions ? Tryvon Martin for being black ? Or Zimmerman for coming up on Martin in what was surely an aggressive manner.
Zimmerman should get a PHD in economics for saving taxpayers money on Trayvons future behind bar and making babies on welfare.
Zimmermans innocent
Zimmerman should get a PHD in economics for saving taxpayers money on Trayvons future behind bar and making babies on welfare.
A couple Trump voters weigh in.
How do you know that?
I guess since he had a gun it made him feel confident getting aggressive with Trayvon. Even if Trayvon did punch the weird stranger that came up on him acting aggressive, so ? What's he supposed to do ? Assume good intentions ? Why didn't Zimmerman assume good intentions ?
Which persons behavior warranted the belief of bad intentions ? Tryvon Martin for being black ? Or Zimmerman for coming up on Martin in what was surely an aggressive manner.
You are entitled to your own opinions, not to your own facts.
You are entitled to your own opinions, not to your own facts.
No shit. But my argument is based on an objective view of what happened without any assumptions about Martin. We don't need to make assumptions about Zimmerman, there are many accounts of his temper and his reckless behavior. And it's a fact that he was told to not do anything. His inappropriate actions, while carying a gun (ready for action), led to the shooting. For that alone he probably should have been convicted of second degree murder, or some slightly lesser charge, and he should have done time.
Yes. Obviously that's my opinion.
Which persons behavior warranted the belief of bad intentions ? Tryvon Martin for being black ? Or Zimmerman for coming up on Martin in what was surely an aggressive manner.
Getting his gun out and pointing it at Martin should have been enough to stop any further fight, and he was on the ground by all accounts. So why did he shoot him ?
I'm trying to figure out
I wish you would say this way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way more often.
You're right, witnesses exist, that say they saw a fight occurring. OThers that say there was no fight, just a guy begging for his life.
But no witness exists saying they heard or saw how a fight started.
Hence:
Ironman says
WE only have zimmerman's word that Martin attacked him.
Getting his gun out and pointing it at Martin should have been enough to stop any further fight, and he was on the ground by all accounts. So why did he shoot him ?
Guns can easily go off when you are in a struggle, but to claim "apparently Zimmerman was willing to murder an innocent person." is silly. It seems you had already made up your mind about Zimmerman just because Trayvon was a Black kid.
WE only have zimmerman's word that Martin attacked him. Gee, I wonder why Zimmerman says that.
Zimmerman was proven innocent in court, so you just have to accept it.
Getting his gun out and pointing it at Martin should have been enough to stop any further fight, and he was on the ground by all accounts. So why did he shoot him ?
You are making assumptions of a situation you don't understand.
It seems you had already made up your mind about Zimmerman just because Trayvon was a Black kid.
No, it's more about Zimmerman running after him coming up on him in a aggressive manner (with a gun), for no other reason than his being black. That and Zimmerman's history of being an asshole idiot, and speed addict. I wouldn't be surprised if he was the one robbing those houses and using his neighborhood watch BS as a cover. There's way more evidence of Zimmerman being a low life than Martin. Martin was just a kid.
See Marcus, this is where we question your ability to teach math and your lack of logic.
The logic of the situation is only that it was not believed by a jury that it had been proven that Zimmerman committed second degree murder, given what the the Florida stand your ground laws allow.
None of this contradicts my opinion in the slightest.
I never deneid Zimmerman's denial that he caused the fight (if there even was one). I'm only arguing that Zimmerman's idiocy and wrong behavior that night caused the death of Martin. It's kind of simple really.
I never deneid Zimmerman's denial that he caused the fight (if there even was one). I'm only arguing that Zimmerman'd idiocy and wrong behavior that night caused the death of Martin. It's kind of simple really.
Ahhh. Now you change the tune.
Ahhh. Now you change the tune.
No you're just finally getting it.
Look back, tell me how I changed my tune. When I say I never denied Zimmerman's denial, I mean that I know Zimmerman denied that he caused the fight.
Trayvon was abandoned by both his parents, which the media did not bother to explore, and was being raised by an Uncle and Aunt.
His own hobag biological mother, who lived only blocks away, had almost nothing to do with him. She gave 3 different answers as to his favorite food. But she had a lot of facebook photos with her tattooed tits half out. Legacy Media never put the dots together or dug at all, going with the straight "Racist attack" nonsense. In actuality in his last year in school, he hardly appeared and when he did he was suspended. With 53 suspensions and absences, he should have been in Truancy Court.
His mom told the media "Well, WHEN he stayed with me, IF he got up for school..." In other words he was not going most of the time.
Also, he should have been arrested for burglary but because the School Resource Officers report to the Miami-Dade Superintendent of Schools and not the Chief of Police, they decided to give Trayvon a suspension, in view of the 12 pieces of female jewelry, male watch, and flat head screwdriver they found in his locker. Exactly what was reported stole near the school weeks earlier.
Why? "Miami Dade Student Problems drop 60%". Yeah, right!
I guess if Zimmerman had tossed him off a high rise building, they would have made Treyvon an astronaut for NASA.
Also, he should have been arrested for burglary but because the School Resource Officers report to the Miami-Dade Superintendent of Schools and not the Chief of Police, they decided to give Trayvon a suspension, in view of the 12 pieces of female jewelry, male watch, and flat head screwdriver they found in his locker. Exactly what was reported stole near the school weeks earlier.
Why? "Miami Dade Student Problems drop 60%". Yeah, right!
In other words they allowed him to be a criminal. If he was in juvenile hall or something, he might still have been alive.
This is one problem i see with schools. They are too easy on budding criminals.
Marcus would be the right person to comment on this.
The reason this is so ridiculous is that dead people can't use college degrees. Trayvon is dead, Marcus. Dead and rotting with worms. Let that be a lesson to thugs everywhere and delinquent parents who pump out babies and then abandon them to the streets.
The "R" strategy for reproduction includes a lot of dead kids.
In other words they allowed him to be a criminal. If he was in juvenile hall or something, he might still have been alive.
Yep. It was the Parents AND the self-promoting Educational Administrators deciding neither to put them before Truancy Court AND not forward the discovery of stolen jewelry as a crime to main Miami Dade Police Department for prosecution --- in order to beef up the Admin's numbers. Because of the coverup, the "found property" has been locked up in a Government Warehouse and not returned to the burglary victims, since it was never filed and connected to the burglary.
Trayvon was also involved in fights the few times he actually went to school.
"It's a turnaround"
Internal Affairs was more interested in prosecuting the whistleblower.
On the other hand, Zimmerman was also a man looking to pick a fight to be a gunslinging hero. Two fucked up people met that day, but only one was armed. The other was only on "sizzup" aka sugary juice mixed with cough syrup and sugary foods, like Skittles.
Florida Memorial University
Is is an Onion thread right? I mean who would seriously fund a fake college to give fake degrees to dead felons?
I wonder which degree Aaron Hernandez will get?
Florida Memorial University
Is is an Onion thread right? I mean who would seriously fund a fake college to give fake degrees to dead felons?
Of course not. Are you trying to insult Dan by calling his Alma mater a "fake U"?
Marcus would be the right person to comment on this.
Are you saying Marcus is a criminal?
Nah, Marcus is a good citizen. The problem is the way he teaches math.....
1. If you rob a seven eleven today and get away with $394, and tomorrow you mug an old lady for $16, how much did you make?
2. If you spend that money on drugs costing $126, whores costing $180, and bailout a friend from jail at $200, how much is left?
3. If the cops are chasing you at 96mph, how fast do you need to go to evade capture?
Shouldn't he be getting a high school diploma first?
Shouldn't he have attended high school first?
Well by all accounts he was flying high when he attacked Zimmerman.
Quigley's not a racist. Proof: His wife is Asian.
Liberalism IS Rocket science.
No, but most rocket scientists are liberal.
New Documentary and Book suggests the entire story of Trayvon Martin was a lie from top to bottom.
https://amgreatness.com/2019/09/13/the-trayvon-martin-hoax-comes-crashing-down/
I don’t know what to say other than stuff like this, clown logic, is one of the many things that will keep Donald in office in 2020.
Trayvon Martin awarded aeronautical science degree
marcus saysWho says crime doesn't pay ?
What crime?
Who says shooting people dead, when you definitely didn't need to, doesn't pay ?
Who says shooting people dead, when you definitely didn't need to
And yes, he was beating the fuck out of Zimmerman.
When a stranger that you don't know tries to detain you, presumably with threats
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theoakman saysAnd yes, he was beating the fuck out of Zimmerman.
When a stranger that you don't know tries to detain you, presumably with threats as to what will happen if you try to keep going, what are you supposed to do ?
If he reacted with something like "fuck off," and then Zimmerman grabbed him as he continued walking, then of course a fight ensued. Does that seem far fetched to you ? Given that we know Zimmerman approached him while armed with the intention of detaining him ? And also given what we know from other Zimmerman stories ?
it's pretty clear you like to speculate to bolster your argument.
When a stranger that you don't know tries to detain you, presumably with threats as to what will happen if you try to keep going, what are you supposed to do ?
You can't convict somebody of murder if you're not sure it was intentional.
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Trayvon Martin's getting a college degree.
The .... Florida teenager ... will be awarded a ... bachelor's degree in aeronautical science from Florida Memorial University.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/04/us/trayvon-martin-college-degree-trnd/index.html