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Charlie Hebdo: cartoon violence continues


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2015 Jan 17, 4:55pm   50,010 views  87 comments

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"At least five people were killed on Saturday during a second day of unrest in Niger, as French citizens were warned to stay indoors amid anger in several Muslim countries over a Prophet Mohammed cartoon published by Charlie Hebdo this week."

[Update: at least 10 killed so far.]

The murderers in Paris were not exceptions to the rule of a supposedly peaceful religion. They were the tip of an iceberg. I have never heard of Christians rioting and killing people over a cartoon, but Muslims do so repeatedly. I am not endorsing any particular religion, but clearly one of the three Abrahamic faiths is more violently aggressive than the others: Islam combines Old Testament violence with New Testament proseletyzing. All three have been used at various times to advocate violence, but Judaism doesn't try to convert non-Jews and Christianity gave up converting people by the sword centuries ago. Even saying that Islam is no worse than Christianity prior to the reformation implies that Islam may take 300 years to tamp down to the level of Christianity today (where abortion clinic bombings are the exception not the rule).

#islam

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29   Peter P   2015 Jan 18, 10:44am  

mell says

Guilt complexes get you nowhere fast and eaten alive.

Yep. Slave morality.

30   Y   2015 Jan 20, 11:10am  

No need for these tomato soup rituals.
The nice thing about nukes is no bloody mess.

( well, at least in the main blast zone )

thunderlips11 says

(Holy Week, Phillippenes. A long Christian Tradition of Mass Public Self-Flagelation going back to the Middle Ages. Let's not forget making yourself a eunuch for the sake of Heaven before that, see Paul's Letters).

31   MisdemeanorRebel   2015 Jan 20, 11:26am  

curious2 says

The Shia ritual involves brandishing lethal weapons; though causing self-inflicted wounds, the message is to show aggression and readiness to draw blood - even their own. The Christian ritual involves reenacting the self-sacrifice of the crucifixion.

The Flagellants aren't re-enacting the Crucifixion, though Easter is a popular time to "flagellate". They are practicing "Mortification of the Flesh" as an avenue to repentance.

The Shi'a are the ones slashing themselves with swords over the betrayal by the Sunni of Hosayn ibn Ali and the battle of Karbala. Hosayn was the "true" descendant of Muhammed, and should have been Kaliph in their eyes. However, Shi'ites aren't the ones responsible for 9/11, the Embassy Bombings, WTC #1, the attacks in India, etc. etc.

If anything, Shi'ites have their hands full dealing with Sunni oppression.

In any case, religion is stupid.

32   MAGA   2015 Jan 20, 11:34am  

turtledove says

Can we just outlaw religion?

As well as Realtor's and NAR!

33   MisdemeanorRebel   2015 Jan 20, 11:41am  

jvolstad says

turtledove says

Can we just outlaw religion?

As well as Realtor's and NAR!

Man will not be free until the last Realtor is strangled with the entrails of the last Imam.

34   Strategist   2015 Jan 20, 11:54am  

sbh says

Strategist says

sbh says

These are all images of the American working-poor Republican voters leaving the voting booth.

If these wackos want more whipping I will be glad to help out.

Nice of you to offer, but no need. They blame you already.

This is the thanks I get for helping mankind. :(

35   Tenpoundbass   2015 Jan 20, 12:00pm  

turtledove says

Can we just outlaw religion?

When you outlaw religion then only the outlaws will go to heaven.

36   curious2   2015 Jan 20, 12:11pm  

thunderlips11 says

Shi'ites....

including Iran, comprise only around 10% of all Muslims, so it doesn't say very much to say that most suicide attacks are perpetrated by members of the 90% of Muslims who are Sunni. Besides, consider the cruise ship hijackers, etc.

I don't mean to overstate matters: the vast majority of religious people including Muslims don't become suicide terrorists, but our existing strategies for containing violence depend on assumptions about deterrence, and those assumptions do not apply in some cases. JFK said, "we are all mortal." Some don't agree, and so the rules that govern everyone else don't really apply to them.

CaptainShuddup says

turtledove says

Can we just outlaw religion?

When you outlaw religion then only the outlaws will go to heaven.

There has to be a win-win solution here. If these ppl believe they are going to eternal paradise when they die, surely we should not delay them.

I have noticed though that many people who swear up and down that they are certain of going to heaven, are also terrified of death and insist that we must also pay any price ("no lifetime caps!") to postpone the inevitable. There seems a strong correlation in fact. In contrast, atheist Mark Twain had the opposite view: �I do not fear death. I had been dead for billions and billions of years before I was born, and had not suffered the slightest inconvenience from it.� In other words, religion stunts people in the early stages of grief (denial, anger, bargaining), preventing them from ever reaching acceptance. Certain clerics have learned to exploit the anger and bargaining stages, indulging denial by offering eternal rewards in exchange for suicidal violence.

37   Strategist   2015 Jan 20, 2:26pm  

CaptainShuddup says

turtledove says

Can we just outlaw religion?

When you outlaw religion then only the outlaws will go to heaven.

Dammit Captain, you are right. We will now need to send out the drones and bomb heaven all the way to hell.

40   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2016 Sep 25, 5:27pm  

I went trap shooting the other day for the first time in 20+ years.

It was fun. I need some more practice after my shoulder heals up.

People that kill because someone posted an image are quite deserving of death.

Browning makes a really nice 12 gauge. I'm glad I live in the US and not Europe.

65   Patrick   2017 Jun 3, 9:40pm  


How come this never happens?

66   HEY YOU   2017 Jun 3, 10:04pm  

We have bigger problems.

68   curious2   2017 Jul 10, 5:23am  


(Piss Be Upon Him)

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