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mell says

The authorities are mostly to blame for this. They knew the protesters had a permit, then used the state of emergency - the only way - to "legally" void that permit and tell the protesters to disperse, knowing well that they would run into armed and violent counter-protesters during the dispersion. Instead they could have simply held up the counter-protesters - who had no permit - until the protesters had dispersed. There's no doubt that mixing some of the more genuine protesters with Nazi-admirers and violent claqueurs, followed by the tragic lethal car ramming and the usual knee-jerk Orwellian fake news coverage at the intellectual level of a 5 year old dealt a huge blow to anybody standing right from the far left, as they are left defenseless in their attempts at any dialectic or logical discourse in the face of Eurabia going to war with Oceania, were no prisoners will be taken. I would even go further and say any parents and friends are to blame if they let their kids or close f...

Really great comment.

TwoScoopsMcGee says

And constant, constant reminders about how we shouldn't blame Islam. And trying to move the focus from the perpetrator to banning guns.

I can't imagine the Media saying "Not all Trump Supporters" or "Let's start regulating car ownership".

But you're right - one thing they have definitely not been interested in is asking why the authorities, with weeks of notice and already in a state of Emergency, failed to prepare. Even the ACLU has been making a stink about the politicians ignoring their suggestions to keep the sides away from each other.

Some people simply cannot handle sensible commentary such as this. Keep it up though, maybe (I pray) you'll win over a person or 3.

If this were pre-meditated, the guy would have bee driving this instead:

APOCALYPSEFUCK_is_ADORABLE says

Not helpful.

https://conservativebase.com/george-soros-accused-of-financing-and-instigating-charlottesville-violence/

George Soros Accused of Financing and Instigating Charlottesville Violence

If this were pre-meditated, the guy would have bee driving this instead:

So the Muslims driving into crowds of people weren't premeditated either?

"George Soros Accused of Financing and Instigating Charlottesville Violence"

Of course he was--because folks like you lap it up like honey. And your confirmation bias leads you to believe it despite there being zero actual evidence.

APOCALYPSEFUCK_is_ADORABLE says

Hard to buff out FAT CHICK STAINS.

You have to use Bon Ami!

I have heard that a cleanser rub can be quite effective.

joeyjojojunior says

So the Muslims driving into crowds of people weren't premeditated either?

They are mostly using trucks.

joeyjojojunior says

If this were pre-meditated, the guy would have bee driving this instead:

So the Muslims driving into crowds of people weren't premeditated either?

Serious question: If that were your car, you you use it as a ramming device? I'd almost understand using a beater, but that car is way too nice for that treatment.

I really admire Trump for being the only fair person in a room full of reporters asking utterly one-sided questions in a desperate attempt to support The Narrative.

Not one reporter asked about the violent anti-Fa or whatever you want to call them.

Trump really has my full support now. He's right that the news is fake. It's continuous and pervasive propaganda.

Why is there zero mention in the press of the mobs of leftists armed with bats looking to beat up people?

errc says

Be honest, Trumpcucks. You're praying to God that a Muslin carries out something worse on American soil, so you can score some points

Muslims have already done much, much worse on American soil with much less press coverage.

Another Muslim attack would be treated the same way, with zero discussion of Islam as the motive, and far less coverage overall than something done by a white male.

The press bias is ridiculous.

rando says

I really admire Trump for being the only fair person in a room full of reporters asking utterly one-sided questions in a desperate attempt to support The Narrative.

Not one reporter asked about the violent anti-Fa or whatever you want to call them.

Trump really has my fully support now. He's absolutely right that the news is fake. It's continuous and pervasive propaganda.

Why is there zero mention in the press of the mobs of leftists armed with bats looking to beat up people?

Equally stunning is the fact that Trump explicitly condemned the Nazis/KKKlansmen one day before and the press pretty much eradicated the fact that this condemnation ever happened, placing Trump near White Supremacists again.

zzyzzx says

Serious question: If that were your car, you you use it as a ramming device?

I wouldn't use any car as a ramming device against innocent people, because I'm a fairly logical individual. A guy who drives his car at high speed through a crowd is a highly emotional low on logic individual who has been pumped full of hatred and uses that hatred to justify his own repeated failure. To a person, I think that this generic sentence is true. Same goes for the failed losers who use Islam as a justification. They are basically the the same individual, but exposed to a different brand of bad logic and hateful emotional appeal. Applying logic to this situation is a fools errand.

http://www.commonsenseevaluation.com/2017/08/16/antifa-flag-comes-directly-from-the-german-communist-party-in-1932/
Antifa Flag Comes Directly From The German Communist Party In 1932

somecrappynumber says

BTW - the paranoid BGMAL/Gary crowd is already claiming that this guy with the flag that hit him may have "startled" the driver and caused him to "panic" hitting the crowd - LOL Yes I am sure as he barreled down the first 150 feet toward the obvious crowd he had good intentions - only to suddenly panic in the last 25. 2/1 odds you tube will have videos claiming that the screams were fake - NO TEARS - COCKEYED ARMS!!!!!

I guess getting "startled" is the new valid reason to murder people.

2 scoops, 2 genders, 2 terms, 2 sides! MAGA!!!

Indiana Jones says

I guess getting "startled" is the new valid reason to murder people.

As not so distant events demonstrate, the public can be startled by the police just as well. Being startled at the mere site of the police will become the norm unless cops who are startled get prosecuted just like anyone else. Those who make peaceful being startled impossible make violent being startled inevitable.

zzyzzx says

Wrong thread. You want the funny picture thread.

zzyzzx says

Horrible. He should give a knee-jerk Politically Correct Opinion that satisfies the virtue signalers and pundits immediately. Bad President.

rando says

I really admire Trump for being the only fair person in a room full of reporters asking utterly one-sided questions in a desperate attempt to support The Narrative.

Not one reporter asked about the violent anti-Fa or whatever you want to call them.

Trump really has my fully support now. He's absolutely right that the news is fake. It's continuous and pervasive propaganda.

Why is there zero mention in the press of the mobs of leftists armed with bats looking to beat up people?

Not a single goddamn mention of the violence and threats of Left Militants. And they Lugenpresse kept deliberately trying to twist his words, to make his clear, unambiguous statements into support for White Supremacist, it's all they were interested in..

Fuck Fake News.

The Cops were waiting on orders from McAuliffe, who didn't want the cops separating the sides too much.

This is like Kiev 2014. Chaos and Violence benefits those out of power.

Also, how come the Media that is so quick to see obvious Nazis and identify even the most obscure Nazi Symbols in Virginia, can't see Death's Heads and Black Suns and White Power Crosses near the Dneiper River?

rando says

errc says

Be honest, Trumpcucks. You're praying to God that a Muslin carries out something worse on American soil, so you can score some points

Muslims have already done much, much worse on American soil with much less press coverage.

Another Muslim attack would be treated the same way, with zero discussion of Islam as the motive, and far less coverage overall than something done by a white male.

The press bias is ridiculous.

errc is beyond help.

WorkInProgress says

errc is beyond help.

Most people are beyond your help. One has to understand more than others to help them.

Also, errc has been doing a splendid job pointing out the contradictions of the Trump supporters around here.

YesYNot says

Most people are beyond your help.

I should add YesYNot to the list of those who are beyond my help. Think about what you just said..."Most people are beyond your help".

Patrick says

Not that this excuses driving into a crowd.

What's his other option? Let them vandalize his car, and possibly beat him as well?

Now if he had a gun, this all could have been prevented...

NuttBoxer says

Patrick says

Not that this excuses driving into a crowd.

What's his other option? Let me vandalize his car, and possibly beat him as well?

This would be a valid argument if he was simply caught up in the blockade. After all, Antifa has frequently assaulted drivers and their cars during such blockades.

However, the driver was far away from the protesters when he gunned the car traveling at very high speeds and aiming for the crowd. It was clearly not self defense.

Yes, the Antifa assholes immediately started to assault the car before they realized they were being attacked. The losers thought it was another driver trying to get past protestors, and had no idea that it was an attack until he backed up on them at a high speed. Then the cowards fled like cockroaches.

However, none of these excuses the deliberate attempt to kill people who were not in any way attacking on endangering the driver. Furthermore, the one person he did kill was not any of the persons who were battering his car.

rando says

errc says

Be honest, Trumpcucks. You're praying to God that a Muslin carries out something worse on American soil, so you can score some points

Muslims have already done much, much worse on American soil with much less press coverage.

Another Muslim attack would be treated the same way, with zero discussion of Islam as the motive, and far less coverage overall than something done by a white male.

The press bias is ridiculous.

Everything is relative. What about your personal bias?

Reading some of the stuff you guys post, everything feels like 1998. When I was 17 and I realized that the "entertainment 'news '" was crap. Very biased. The police were jumpy, militant, and quick to "defend" themselves. Like when a couple of them ripped a neighbor kid out of his car and beat him to death for literally no reason. They didn't beat him to death on the spot, rather they beat him into a coma, and the bag of cocaine he swallowed opened in his stomach, and killed him. I knew that the democrats were definitely not the party to save us. They were all the lawyers whose business was to profit from bad, complex laws that harmed people. My high school was ~10% white, so I knew race relations were generally tense. Even though I was born to be a big time Conservative, I could already tell that the Republicans were an even worse alternative.

What were yous doing the past twenty years, to just now realize that the Media is biased?

What and when do you think changed? Or are you just that slow to woke?

I hadn't even graduated HS, but since I was in all accelerated classes, most of my friends were 3 years older. Their older siblings were already coming home from university, saddled with debt, unable to find a job to match their stupid degree.

None of this seems new to me, rather what continues to surprise me is that smart folk like yourselves are just now coming to these realizations.

errc says

What were yous doing the past twenty years, to just now realize that the Media is biased?

Why has the "Resistance" forgotten that there is Fake News, and that Mainstream Media is controlled by a handful of Oligarchs? And that the Intel Agencies leak, distort, and tell half-truths to get preferred policies imposed or continued? Starting in 2009 when Obama took office?

Real Leftist would have ripped the driver out of the car & performed an autopsy in the street.
This group was just a bunch of bleeding heart liberals.

TwoScoopsMcGee says

errc says

What were yous doing the past twenty years, to just now realize that the Media is biased?

Why has the "Resistance" forgotten that there is Fake News, and that Mainstream Media is controlled by a handful of Oligarchs? And that the Intel Agencies leak, distort, and tell half-truths to get preferred policies imposed or continued? Starting in 2009 when Obama took office?

Why are you so disillusioned to think that giving absolute power to Republicans will yield something better?

I won't argue that democrats are horrible and I'll never deny reality.

However, the people that go on and on and on about how bad the left is, seem to never have even considered that the Republicans may actually not be a perfect solution. We've tried Republicans ideas and solutions consistently my entire life, I feel it's safe to say that they have given us what we have now: the bad (and the good, if there is any. Yous guys will never, ever address this point) How are the Republicans a solution to the democrats?

TwoScoopsMcGee says

errc says

What were yous doing the past twenty years, to just now realize that the Media is biased?

Why has the "Resistance" forgotten that there is Fake News, and that Mainstream Media is controlled by a handful of Oligarchs? And that the Intel Agencies leak, distort, and tell half-truths to get preferred policies imposed or continued? Starting in 2009 when Obama took office?

Honestly I can't really answer this, I'm not sure what you're talking about. Care to elaborate? Unlike some people, I'll answer any question you want to ask of me, and I'm sure that the answer might be that I don't know. I'm not afraid of that, on the contrary, I'm open to learning something.

Love for one of you Trumpkins to explain the plan to fix any of these issues. Remember, it's a Republican world, and with a Republican House and Senate, nothing changes. At least with Bernie, he was working towards something, trying to get his people into legislature. Did Trump even give that a thought? Does he even know that's how our government works?

errc says

Honestly I can't really answer this, I'm not sure what you're talking about. Care to elaborate? Unlike some people, I'll answer any question you want to ask of me, and I'm sure that the answer might be that I don't know. I'm not afraid of that, on the contrary, I'm open to learning something.

errc says

Love for one of you Trumpkins to explain the plan to fix any of these issues

Calling out Corporate Oligarch media on it's fake news. This isn't the media, but it's owned by the guy who owns the Washington Post.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/single-donald-trump-tweet-just-151644942.html

TwoScoopsMcGee says

This is a failure of capitalism and Reagonomics. Both encourage all control to be centralized into the hands of a few owners. This is the entire purpose of both capitalism and Reagonomics. It's not an unintended consequence. It is the sole intention.

This is also what Republicans mean every time they say "deregulate". Deregulate means consolidate.

So I was correct. Anyone paying attention should have recognized this twenty years ago

Love for one of you Trumpkins to explain the plan to fix any of these issues. Remember, it's a Republican world, and with a Republican House and Senate, nothing changes. At least with Bernie, he was working towards something, trying to get his people into legislature. Did Trump even give that a thought? Does he even know that's how our government works?

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So how exactly is continuing to vote in all Republicans a solution to these (Republican) created problems?