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mell saysHowever banning for trolling is ridiculous as it is far too subjective.
When did that happen?
Trump is the first Republican US president that gets the full treatment of Democratic Party scorn.
Yes it is subjective as not everyone knows or agrees what he does which is obvious by the fact that patnet has many users who do not care about this and do not perceive there to be a disrupting trolling force. Discussions simply go on.
It hasn't yet and I think that's good. The rules that were put up and decided upon were around non-civility, personal attacks/insults etc. (which some implied as part of trolling but likely much easier to define for most and to come to a consensus for a definition than trolling)
@patrick the idea of moderator is good. but I think it should be done in a different way. We should each get to moderate our own threads. Whom ever starts the thread is the moderator. If they want personal attacks then it goes, they moderate as they see fit. If people don't like how one moderates then they won't post on said moderators thread.
Many thanks to trump for saving this great republic from the zombie-err leftie hordes.
That’s supposed to be proof for your ridiculous comment?
anon_44ed6 saysThat’s supposed to be proof for your ridiculous comment?
Liberals-how dare you call me out-how dare you-you liar-blah, blah, blah.
or just put him on ignore and never see him at all
anon_ae030 saysThat would be fine if everyone's intentions were sincere. They aren't and would leave the site open to the potential for abuse. I think moderating each thread is fine in essence, but culling of posts can't simply be arbitrary, or characters like CiC would have a field day.
Well then, at the very least, we would see who is a good moderator and who is not. In CiC's case either you'd enjoy his style or just put him on ignore and never see him at all.
The bottom line.
"Ignore" solves everything.
You don't see their posts, they don't see yours.
But for some people, knowing that certain people are posting regardless of whether they are seen, drives them crazy.
PCGyver saysor just put him on ignore and never see him at all
That’s a lie.
I put Ironman on ignore, he logged off to read my posts, quoted them, harassed me about them, and then had one of his buddies quote him so it shows up in the thread
In the last year, there has been a drop off in the number of liberals posting.
It's lack of interesting posts that's the real problem, and if you get rid of anon posts, you will be left with an echo chamber at this point.
Who is that? I searched the user list, which one is he?
In the last year, there has been a drop off in the number of liberals posting. This appointment of goran as moderator seems to have accelerated it, and I would agree that the moderation has been one sided. It's not a flagrant abuse, but I believe that it's enough to dissuade liberals from bothering to engage here. It's lack of interesting posts that's the real problem, and if you get rid of anon posts, you will be left with an echo chamber at this point.
anon_0e631 saysCan you step up and start making more Liberal threads if you want to see more?
Nope. Fuck this anti free speech forum. You can shit all over it but for god sake don't insult anybody. Them's the new rules!
anon_d57f7 saysanon_0e631 saysCan you step up and start making more Liberal threads if you want to see more?
Nope. Fuck this anti free speech forum. You can shit all over it but for god sake don't insult anybody. Them's the new rules!
Then lobby for revoking moderation and going back to the old format. It was fine.
I put Ironman on ignore, he logged off to read my posts, quoted them, harassed me about them, and then had one of his buddies quote him so it shows up in the thread
YesYNot saysIn the last year, there has been a drop off in the number of liberals posting. This appointment of goran as moderator seems to have accelerated it, and I would agree that the moderation has been one sided. It's not a flagrant abuse, but I believe that it's enough to dissuade liberals from bothering to engage here. It's lack of interesting posts that's the real problem, and if you get rid of anon posts, you will be left with an echo chamber at this point.
If you look at the current threads, mostly politics, they are relatively balanced on both sides. Certainly enough Trump bashing on there, and then some neutral stuff as well. Here's an alternative explanation. The site was dominated by lefties and narcissists / strong personalities all united in their hate for Trump, but now that many moved on, accepted Trump and even embraced at least a few of his stances or simply got turned o...
Can you step up and start making more Liberal threads if you want to see more?
anon_313db saysAd homs are the biggest reason why this site started to and continued to struggle.
No that's never true. 4chan exists and grows even when the entire purpose is to ad hominem each other to death. If you want a reason for the decline it's because Patrick simply doesn't give a shit. He stabbed the most loyal users in the back and handed control over the place to the liars and trolls.
mell saysYesYNot saysIn the last year, there has been a drop off in the number of liberals posting. This appointment of goran as moderator seems to have accelerated it, and I would agree that the moderation has been one sided. It's not a flagrant abuse, but I believe that it's enough to dissuade liberals from bothering to engage here. It's lack of interesting posts that's the real problem, and if you get rid of anon posts, you will be left with an echo chamber at this point.
If you look at the current threads, mostly politics, they are relatively balanced on both sides. Certainly enough Trump bashing on there, and then some neutral stuff as well. Here's an alternative explanation. The site was dominated by lefties and narcissists / strong personalities all united in their hate for Trump, but now that many moved on, ac...
I see topics started by Hey You certainly on the left of things, Roidy as well, tovarichpeter, sometimes yesYnot and timaurora and rew, then neutral ones like tvgnus, heraclitus, curious2, bob doesn't start many but certainly replies to many (also more on the left though somewhat centrist). The rest I'd put on the right side of the spectrum. Here's to all of those staying on.
It's not a lack of threads that's a problem. Thread starting is easy.
Regarding uneven moderation, this is why I think it's a problem: I know that there will be snide and marginally insulting posts coming my way. To a point, that's fine as long as I am able to respond in kind. However, if I expect to be hit with harsher moderation than the people who are insulting me, that's going to be more frustrating than fun. If the moderator is more concerned with what constitutes an insult than what constitutes an intelligent and relevant idea, then that's another problem. I've seen both of those problems so far.
Nope. Fuck this anti free speech forum. You can shit all over it but for god sake don't insult anybody. Them's the new rules!
Blue Sardine has never been a serious contributor because s/he's concerned with winning over substance. Most of the users remaining have shown miserable integrity.
If you are honest you don't care what someone calls you. If you are lying steaming piece of shit you care extremely much what someone calls you and you get to be a moderator. Welcome to hell.
anon_0e631 says
Can you step up and start making more Liberal threads if you want to see more?
It's not a lack of threads that's a problem. Thread starting is easy. It's a lack of good and novel ideas, particularly in response to others. I don't really have an interest in trying to take up the mantle of all of those who have left. I'm perfectly happy to contribute if there are other posts that I find interesting and agreeable, but I'm finding less and less of those. That will reach critical mass if it has not already. That's just how I see things at this point.
Regarding uneven moderation, this is why I think it's a problem: I know that there will be snide and marginally insulting posts coming my way. To a point, that's fine as long as I am able to respond in kind. However, if I expect to be hit with harsher moderation than the people who are insulting me, that's going to be more ...
Patrick is killing his own site.
The right wing cesspool this site has become is something that Patrick can't see,
There is literally zero chance that if this place survives another 5 yearsanon_d57f7 says
The site has been destroyed.
Patrick gives so little of a shit about this issue that he hasn't even bothered to defend his choice of Goron or his lying or his trollism. It's obvious that pigshit cic has more influence over what goes on here then the people who helped build the place over 10 years. Let It Burn.
It's a logical fallacy that people insert into an argument that appears to be a logical response but instead is a dishonest non sequitur
if you don't equate Libertarians with mainstream Republicans.
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Teach me how to differentiate between the two, and I’ll give it my best.
You’ve always been reasonable, I appreciate the replies
@patrick that winehorror user name scheme would be more fun. Anonymous is annoying.
So you think Trump made yet another bad appointment with Sessions, and you want him fired.
Not because he is literally waging war with our citizens, not because he perjured himself under oath, not because of his UnAmerican, anti-Constitutional stance on civil asset forfeiture. None of that. Nope. Never even a mention.
But simply because he doesn’t know what you and Alex Jones know wrt locking up Hillary
At least you have your priorities straight, if nothing else
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