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If it were all melting wouldn't we have less ice every year?
No. Now go educate yourself on something called a trend line.
Looks like the "trend line" the last 7 years has been pretty even.
bob2356 saysEveryone knows it's you cic/ironman/sniper/onvacaton/piggy. How many accounts do you have?
Maybe if you focused more on FACTS instead of telling lies about people, you'd be better off.
Sorry you missed math fundamentals
The range of sea ice since 1979 is pretty much within 2 standard deviations of the average over that time. If you look at the last 5 years the trend is up. On top of that 1979 was the end of a small cooling period. Were you cognizant in the 70s when the consensus of climate scientists was an ice age was coming?
Onvacation says
Go ahead, show your calculations for arriving at the standard deviation of sea ice extent.
No Bob. The arctic is not melting uncontrollably. The trend is not down. If it were this would be the lowest not the eighth lowest.
http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/charctic-interactive-sea-ice-graph/ Play with this app and see that the sea ice is staying in a range. Some years we have more ice and some years we have less.
There was no consensus that an ice age was coming.
While you are at it show a longer trend line rather than flapping your face if you aren't happy with the starting point. Run and hide.
So bob, are you one of those history deniers that deny the MWP, the little ice age, and natural variation of climate?
No Bob. The arctic is not melting uncontrollably. The trend is not down. If it were this would be the lowest not the eighth lowest.
http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/charctic-interactive-sea-ice-graph/ Play with this app and see that the sea ice is staying in a range. Some years we have more ice and some years we have less.
The satellite data started in 79 at the end of a cooling period where the ice was more extensive. But you knew that.
Onvacation says
So bob, are you one of those history deniers that deny the MWP, the little ice age, and natural variation of climate?
CAGW belief requires that you do.
Is this a joke of some kind? The trend is clearly down. click in the years and see where they fall.
deny the MWP, the little ice age, and natural variation of climate?
So show the ice extent from any starting date you want if you don't like starting in the 70's What is stopping you?
Onvacation saysOnvacation says
So bob, are you one of those history deniers that deny the MWP, the little ice age, and natural variation of climate?
CAGW belief requires that you do.
No it doesn't but explaining why to you would be a major waste of time.
Sorry you missed math fundamentals. It's sad really.It must be very difficult trying to stumble through life without being able to grasp what people are talking about. Here is what a trend line looks like.
Here's a question: If you generate 35 data points in a perfectly straight line, and take the average of those data points. Will any of the data points be outside of two standard deviations from the average? Answer = no.
2016 was feted as the warmest year EVER. How much warmer was 2016 than 2015?
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Too bad you're wrong, I didn't post thatYou are correct. My appologies for confusing you for on vacation.
so accusing someone of something they didn't post makes the rest of your assertion false.This piece of 'logic' is baffling. Replace sniper with on vacation in my post, and it stands.
accusing someone of something they didn't post makes the rest of your assertion false.
civil debate. Maybe you can answer the question
Onvacation says2016 was feted as the warmest year EVER. How much warmer was 2016 than 2015?
https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2017/end-of-summer-arctic-sea-ice-extent-is-eighth-lowest-on-record If it were all melting wouldn't we have less ice every year?