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Trump referred to Haiti, African nations as 'shit hole' countries; White House doesn't deny


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2018 Jan 11, 4:08pm   55,251 views  199 comments

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https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/11/white-house-doesnt-deny-that-president-trump-referred-to-haiti-african-nations-as-s--hole-countries.html President Donald Trump referred to Haiti and African nations as "s---hole countries" in a meeting with lawmakers, a Democratic aide briefed on the matter told NBC News.

The Washington Post first reported the news, citing two people briefed on the meeting. The newspaper said that lawmakers had convened with the president in the Oval Office on Thursday to discuss a bipartisan immigration deal.

When lawmakers brought up protections for immigrants from Haiti, El Salvador and African countries, Trump asked, "Why are we having all these people from s---hole countries come here?"

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15   Tenpoundbass   2018 Jan 11, 7:12pm  

There should be a Shithole layer for Google maps.
16   RWSGFY   2018 Jan 11, 7:18pm  

Ceffer says
The idea is to KEEP them shithole countries with small, bribe-able evil cartels in our orbit to control them while we rape them of resources


Again, what's there to "rape" from Haiti?
17   Strategist   2018 Jan 11, 7:22pm  

Tenpoundbass says
There should be a Shithole layer for Google maps.


That's a great idea, Captain. We should have the option of bypassing high crime neighborhoods while using google maps. They won't do it because they will immediately be accused of racism.
18   Tenpoundbass   2018 Jan 11, 7:40pm  

Trump's immigration policy
19   FortWayne   2018 Jan 11, 9:02pm  

It’s a business proposition, but I bet there is already something out there mapping crimes.

Strategist says
Tenpoundbass says
There should be a Shithole layer for Google maps.


That's a great idea, Captain. We should have the option of bypassing high crime neighborhoods while using google maps. They won't do it because they will immediately be accused of racism.
20   WatermelonUniversity   2018 Jan 11, 9:59pm  

more like a clown.

he's making sure impeachment happens soon and unresistant by the American public.

Strategist says
The guy is a sensation.
21   Ceffer   2018 Jan 11, 11:59pm  

Satoshi_Nakamoto says
Ceffer says
The idea is to KEEP them shithole countries with small, bribe-able evil cartels in our orbit to control them while we rape them of resources


Again, what's there to "rape" from Haiti?


Sorry. I guess I am just an idealist.
22   lostand confused   2018 Jan 12, 1:08am  

The racist outrage crowd is on overdrive-LOL!
23   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2018 Jan 12, 4:23am  

He also claimed that he probably had a good relationship with Kim Jong-Un yesterday. I think he was just out of it.
While you guys love watching Trump poke a finger in the eyes of the 'politically correct,' you should remember this next time you say that Obama drove people apart and Trump brings them together.
24   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Jan 12, 5:33am  



Not a shithole, Shitlord!!!
25   Booger   2018 Jan 12, 5:57am  

Strategist says
That's a great idea, Captain. We should have the option of bypassing high crime neighborhoods while using google maps.


How hard is it to avoid Martin Luther King Jr Boulevard?
27   joshuatrio   2018 Jan 12, 6:01am  

Goran_K says

He’s right you know.


Yep. I don't see many people going to Africa for education or tourism. Granted, there are a few good pockets, but overall, it's a mess.
28   Booger   2018 Jan 12, 6:50am  

Trump referred to Haiti, African nations as 'shit hole' countries

ERECTION INTENSIFYING!!!
29   anonymous   2018 Jan 12, 7:24am  

I freakin' LOVE our President, he's giving all the real Shithole Assholes the Vapours!


Donald Trump's reported remark branding Haiti, El Salvador and unspecified African nations as "s***hole countries" has been branded racist by a UN human rights official.

"If confirmed these are shocking and shameful comments from the President of the United States," spokesperson Rupert Coleville said.

"You cannot dismiss entire countries and continents as 's***holes', whose entire populations who are not white, are therefore not welcome."

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/un-donald-trump-shithole-immigrants-haiti-africa-racist-huamn-rights-united-nations-a8155186.html
Yes I can, and what's worse, each of these Shithole countries gets an equal vote in the General Assembly, regardless of population, land mass, or development which is stupid as hell.
30   anonymous   2018 Jan 12, 7:25am  

Don Lemon opened his show by calling Trump a racist.

Probably by the end of the day, somebody will compile a big list of Lefties calling places in the USA "Shitholes". Remember, foreign poor GOOD, Should be Dreamers! Domestic poor BAD, Deserves It!
31   FortWayne   2018 Jan 12, 7:39am  

Trump speaks the Truth
32   mell   2018 Jan 12, 7:53am  

Das Rays cyst! Don the Lemon can go and work for a TV channel in Haiti if it's so great over there, that fucking hypocrite.
33   Strategist   2018 Jan 12, 7:56am  

TwoScoopsPlissken says


Beverly Hills of Haiti.
34   Strategist   2018 Jan 12, 8:04am  

anon_57cc2 says
Don Lemon opened his show by calling Trump a racist.


I was watching CNN last night talking about Trump and his "shithole" remarks. They all had horrified look on their faces. The truth is, these countries are shitholes. Trump told the truth, and nothing else. Yes, his remarks were not PC, but who made the rule that politicians have to be PC? Why not be honest for a change and call a shithole, a shithole?
35   RC2006   2018 Jan 12, 8:10am  

Another Trump golden nugget of truth just saying what everyone thinks already but because of political correctness isn't suppose to be said. No sane person would really think that its anything but a shithole.

Clintons steal pity money that was suppose to help Haiti after earthquake and its crickets on the left.
36   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2018 Jan 12, 8:10am  

Strategist says
be honest for a change and call a shithole, a shithole?

You should try that at your next Holiday dinner. Say grace or whatever you do, and then just ask why you have to invite your loser brother in law to your Thanksgiving. Why should you have to be so PC in your own house?
37   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Jan 12, 8:23am  

anonymous says
You forgot to mention only white countries should be allowed to vote in the General Assembly, lily white first, off white or similar considered on a case by case basis but definitely no brown people countries ever - for any reason.


Straight to Ray's Cysts!

You realize that Brazil has over 200M people, and is one of the largest countries by landmass to boot, but has the same exact vote as Little Lithuania or Gambia with just over 2 Million?

How about Malta or Iceland with less than a million, compared to Mexico or Malaysia? One vote each.

Literally a country with half a million people has the same vote share as one with almost a billion. Undemocratic and Unrepresentative.

The UN is a joke, a meeting of corrupt officials. Time for it to go away entirely, it's obsolete.
38   Shaman   2018 Jan 12, 8:32am  

anonymous says
You forgot to mention only white countries should be allowed to vote in the General Assembly, lily white first, off white or similar considered on a case by case basis but definitely no brown people countries ever - for any reason.


Has it ever occurred to you that when black or brown people say “Make America White Again” it is a tacit admission that more white people and less colored people would make things better? Is that really the message the Congressional Black Caucus wants to send to the nation?
39   Tenpoundbass   2018 Jan 12, 8:38am  

anonymous says
Immigrants are pouring into these US states. Here's each state's net immigration per 1,000 residents between July 1, 2016 and July 1, 2017:


All the more reason to shut down the shithole express.
41   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2018 Jan 12, 8:47am  

Quigley says
it is a tacit admission that more white people and less colored people would make things better?
That's funny.
TwoScoopsPlissken says
Straight to Ray's Cysts!

Trump's comment was racist. It's not that he called Haiti a shithole. That is just a diplomatic failure of high order. The racist part is that he thinks we should keep out all individuals from those countries. What if he asked, 'Why should the federal government hire anybody from a shithole like Detroit or Harlem?' Would you find that racist?
42   joshuatrio   2018 Jan 12, 8:51am  

anonymous says

Trump is also a born again racist at heart not to mention a bigot and a whole lot more.


Ahhhh, here we go again.
43   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Jan 12, 8:53am  

Sniper says
We need all the TDS sufferers here to raise their hands and tell us how many are taking their families for a weeks vacation to the shitholes of Haiti or Somalia?


"If DRUMPF!!! gets elected, I'm going to...

Canada
Spain
Ireland
Japan

... but never Guyana, Haiti, or the Central African Republic"
44   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Jan 12, 8:57am  

FNWGMOBDVZXDNW says
Trump's comment was racist. It's not that he called Haiti a shithole. That is just a diplomatic failure of high order. The racist part is that he thinks we should keep out all individuals from those countries. What if he asked, 'Why should the federal government hire anybody from a shithole like Detroit or Harlem?' Would you find that racist?


So a place where raw sewage mixes with well water, there's endemic preventable disease, and the country is infamous for poverty, crime, violence, corruption, and death, we can't call it a shithole now?

Oy Vey.

"The Democratic Republic of the Congo isn't a Shithole. It simply has many challenges to face." There, I'm not a racist now.
45   MrMagic   2018 Jan 12, 9:10am  

anonymous says
"So a place where raw sewage mixes with well water, there's endemic preventable disease, and the country is infamous for poverty, crime, violence, corruption, and death, we can't call it a shithole now?"

We have more than enough of that in this country


Specially in Indiana.
46   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Jan 12, 9:10am  

anonymous says
We have more than enough of that in this country, any particular area of the lower 48 we should start with ?


None.

~400 cases of Typhoid in the US in a year. Not deaths, just cases.

And of those, most Salmonelli Typhi infections (79%) in a recent period (1999-2006) were transmitted to the patient during travel OUTSIDE the USA.
https://www.nichd.nih.gov/news/releases/typhoid_background https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/184464
Whereas in Pakistan there are hundreds of thousands of Typhoid Cases, and it's the 4th Leading Cause of Death.

Our one major new health crisis is Hepatitis, brought by undocumented immigrants who have not had their shots, spreading the disease by hand, esp. via food service and food packing.
47   NuttBoxer   2018 Jan 12, 9:53am  

I have family in Tijuana, and cross down every so often to visit. Noticed in the last few months that blacks(probably Haitians) are becoming a common site as street vendors. Now if Tijuana is better than Haiti...
48   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Jan 12, 10:01am  

DoofusRicky says
Brother Plissken I don't think anyone would leave our fine country to live in the Congo. My humble complaint is that enraging multiple countries for absolutely no purpose can never be a good thing. I may agree with you that there are too many illegal Haitians living in the country but they are still here. How will Donald Trump atone for an angry Haitian going on a killing spree because president Trump could not hold his tongue?


It depends on who. I'm not really worried about pissing off Haiti or the DR/Congo. I would like to piss off Pakistan.

But let's note some mitigating factors:

* The media is reporting "Shithole" as if it definitely happened; based on hearsay; the POTUS has denied he said that exact word.
* It was a private meeting between US Officials.
* Have you ever heard the LBJ and Nixon tapes?! "Damn Niggers" "Cock-suckah!!!"
* If any one is to blame, it's the Leaker and the Media who turned a comment in the White House behind closed doors and made it public.

The Media decides to get "Outraged" or "Put it in context" depending on who is doing the speaking. Example (at 1:30):www.youtube.com/embed/4VuXH0KJ74k
Jackie Kennedy gripes about MLK, calls him terrible. Of course Andrea Mitchell LOVES Jackie O. and has to "contextualize" it. If Jackie O was Trump she'd say "And here's another horrible thing he said, this time, about somebody no less than Martin Luther King Jr." (clutched pearl voice).
49   Ceffer   2018 Jan 12, 10:14am  

I hate it when these third world countries act so "Shit-Holier Than Thou".
50   anonymous   2018 Jan 12, 10:27am  

Damn, that's some whataboutism right there.
51   Patrick   2018 Jan 12, 10:53am  

Ceffer says
"Shit-Holier Than Thou"


Had to laugh at that.
52   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Jan 12, 11:24am  

Dems: "The Majority have treated the Minority horribly."

Also Dems: "White People are gonna be the Minority soon, hahahahahahaha!"

Yeah, no thanks, you can be a minority in my country rather than I be a minority in yours.
53   zzyzzx   2018 Jan 12, 11:27am  

Ripped off from another forum:

1. Once, a friend of another volunteer wanted to earn some money by baking bread. He got a little bit of money together and used it to buy ingredients. He built a mud stove himself, and cooked 30 loaves of “village bread” - basically misshapen, doughy baguette. He took the bread to the road, and started to sell them, until his father came by. His father said, “You have bread! The family needs bread!” and took 20 loaves for himself and the rest of the kids (this particular father had 4 wives and 8 kids per wife). Our enterprising African friend was left bankrupt. He lost his entire initial investment and never made bread again.

This is the basic story of Africa: communalism gone insane. It is completely unthinkable to refuse a demand of an elder or a family member for money or food. People hid any small money they had, because if anyone knew they had it, there would be a line around the corner asking for loans and favors, and they would be honor-bound or whatever to say yes. I told my friends over and over to say no, and each time they politely explained to me that it was impossible. The whole system is built to pull people down to the lowest common denominator."

"2. Every day, I ate the same meal – a huge communal bowl of rice, with fish and some vegetables. Every day, the family I lived with spent a good amount of money (for them) to buy bitter tomatoes and okra to put in the rice, despite the fact that nobody liked bitter tomatoes or okra. I asked, why do you waste so much money on these vegetables that nobody eats? They told me, because we don’t want anyone to think we’re poor.

Africans are all about face and presentation, to the point of self-ruin. We’re talking about people for whom buying a couple vegetables has a huge impact on their bottom line, but they still do it. Saving money is basically impossible. I’m convinced that they have no conception of the future, aside from a vague idea that tomorrow will come. Cause and effect seemed to have no meaning. People who planned well, saved money and invested were not lauded or emulated, just dismissed as flukes or having received the blessing of Allah. Actually, Africans probably took to Islam like flies to s**t because in Islam, everything flows directly from God – it is a religion that gives people permission to believe that everything is out of their hands, which they believe anyway."

"3. A man asked me if I could give him 10 hectares of land and a diesel-electric water pump to irrigate it. This was not uncommon. The first thing people usually asked me when I told them I was an Agriculture Development person was for tractors, cars, livestock, anything. Completely shameless begging. Men in expensive silk clothes with nice black sedans would shamelessly beg for gimmiedats when they learned what I did. Anyway, I asked this particular guy what experience he had farming or gardening. He said none. I asked, then why do you want such a large scale enterprise? Why not get a small garden from the village chief and a used gas-pump to see how it goes? Maybe you’ll even earn enough money to upgrade in a year or two. He said, well, my cousin got 10 hectares and a diesel-electric pump from the government, so he was going to wait until he could get it too.

Gimmiedats are international. It’s disgusting. Every single cent of international aid is wasted on either bloodthirsty warlords, sniveling SWLP striver salaries, or gimmiedats for the underserving. In case you had any illusions, never give money to any international charity, ever. It breeds a mentality of helplessness and “mana from heaven”, not to mention an entire caste of African hustlers whose only job is to pitch their villages for various causes. The worst thing about this story? The man was completely right to not try a small scale enterprise. He’s African, they have infinite time. One day a government project will come to his village and give him his pump and his 10 hectares. He won’t do s**t with it, but he’ll proudly show off his pump and everyone in the village will respect him for his achievement of receiving some gimmiedats."

"4. During the festival of Eid al-Hada, a ram must be sacrificed because blah blah who cares. After killing and stringing the ram up into a tree for butchering, a gaggle of boys (they are always around in groups of 10-50, usually begging for presents and money because idiot white people always give it to them) rushed to the dying animal with a pair of scissors, snipped off its balls, and ran away with their prize. I asked the closest mother why, she said they’re going to grill it – the balls are a prized treat for the boys. I asked, do the girls eat it too? Of course not, she said. They would get pregnant with a goat.

Africans are dumb as shit. Basically, they never grow up. You are dealing with 200 pound children. If you go into interactions with that mindset, things go alright, but if you expect anything adult from them, you’ll be disappointed and frustrated at every turn. They believe in everything you can list – ghosts, angels, demons, curses, charms, blessings, and magic. Oh, and magic. They love it. I was party to a number of village magic battles, where charms and counter-charms were buried at people’s doorsteps, protective wards were made, and potions were snuck into tea. It’s a huge deal, and everyone pays big money (for them) to the local shamans and witch doctors to get all these magical trinkets. Yes, even in Islamic Africa, it’s just like this. African Islam is the same as South American Christianity – totally fked in the head. They are pagan savages first and moon-worshiping goatfuckers second. They just slap a varnish of Islam on it – the magic charm has a Koranic verse in it! – and go about their lives happily as before."

"5. A volunteer once fronted enough money for the farmer he lived with to buy fertilizer. They spread it together, and the yield was recorded. In total, it was 9 fold over the year prior. Instead of taking the money back for the loan, said volunteer forced the farmer to buy fertilizer for the next year, and save it. The next year came and they used it again, and again the yield was 10 fold over the first non-fertilizer year. This time, though, the volunteer had left the country. The farmer didn’t buy any fertilizer, and instead blew through the money he earned from his crop on frivolous crap and gifts to every extended family member who cast a shadow on his door. The next year his yields returned to the original level, and everyone went on with their lives as happy as before. The end.

This is my penultimate Africa story. There’s a bit more to it – the Peace Corps showed graphs and charts of this particular case as a successful intervention. I only found out about the little coda because I specifically asked what happened the next year; they didn’t decide to share that little fact in the larger meeting. It brings together everything - the waste, the stupidity, the lack of foresight, the inability to see cause and effect, the massive importance put on frivolous crap, and the way communities tear down their best members. Here’s the takeaway: nobody who wasn’t white on that farm saw the connection between the yields, the money they were making and the fertilizer. Nobody stopped to think hey, we should buy more of this.

That’s the insanity of Africa. 200 pound children, blowing huge stacks of cash on magic charms while they grind out a subsistence livelihood on the border of the desert. This is already super long, and I could really go on and on about this subject. There are more stories - the myths of the African family, more stories of faux-communalism, stories about crazy African religion and politics, and so on. The long and short of it, though, is this: they’re not terrible people, they just shouldn’t be anywhere near us. Africa is no s**t the Garden of Eden. It’s no mistake that the people living there are giant children. Despite tons of diseases and ferocious animals, they want for nothing. Trees growing fruit are everywhere. Every weed is edible. Before the Western-induced population bomb, I’m not even sure they even required agriculture to feed themselves. If we’re going to live a world where complete ethnic cleansing and colonization is off the table, just let them have their little paradise and leave us alone. They have absolutely nothing to offer us nor anything to gain by interaction with the west. They’re a people frozen in time from tens of thousands of years ago, and I have no trouble leaving them like that.

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