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When you see that look of hatred on the faces of Nancy Pelosi and other Democrats, it’s not really about Donald Trump. It’s fear and self-loathing with nowhere to go. It’s misery, the same misery they’ve inflicted on others reflected back into themselves.

If only they would go away, how much better off our country would be."

Ceffer says

they deserve hatred

I don't think anyone deserves hatred for anything they say. This is actually the sum of my religion:

“If only it were all so simple! If only there were evil people somewhere insidiously committing evil deeds, and it were necessary only to separate them from the rest of us and destroy them. But the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. And who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart?”
― Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago 1918-1956

There's another fundamental belief I have a hard time expressing. Still hoping some poet puts it better, but it's basically like this: You cannot even see things which threaten your own selfish motives. There is a reality distortion filter that we all have, and we are mostly dishonest to ourselves and others about the existence of that filter. We clump together into groups with similar filters, often religions, but not just that. It's obvious to every member of the group that they are right, because they are all willfully blind to the possibility that their self-interest is warping their perception. Here's the best way I've heard this put so far:

“It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.”
― Upton Sinclair, I, Candidate for Governor: And How I Got Licked

Trump approval at 49%. Just wait until after April 15th.

anon_cb975 says

Trump approval at 49%. Just wait until after April 15th.

The new withholding rates are already in effect. April 15th is last year's taxes so nothing changes then.

anon_3b28c says

anon_cb975 says

Trump approval at 49%. Just wait until after April 15th.

The new withholding rates are already in effect. April 15th is last year's taxes so nothing changes then.

Yea but, that extra $20-30 a week will buy a lot of #MAGA hats, and reinvigorate the waning Muh Hillary bowel movement.

Can’t make America Great Again without spending most your time whinging about the Clintons.

The question none of the Trump Dick Suckers can ever answer is why weren’t they Making America Great prior to January 2017? Why didn’t they help to Make America Great in 2015? Or 2010?

Liberals need to learn and understand. We didn't elect Trump for the Swamp Democrats to spend 4 years vetting for an interview. Trump got the job, it's them they are fired.

When Trump fails to deliver then we'll start criticizing Trump, we trust Trump. Because the current people serving in Washington have a long track record of untrustworthy service.

We sent Trump to Washington to send them home. Trump is the President and they are not. Time everyone understands that.

Ya'll need da gitcha a competent Leader yer last'in really Screwed the Pooch bad.

Tenpoundbass says

Ya'll need da gitcha a competent Leader yer last'in really Screwed the Pooch bad.

Yea that jive ass bitch really fucked us. Thank God that Trump is here to save us lol lmao

errc says

Yea that jive ass bitch really fucked us. Thank God that Trump is here to save us

yes, that's correct.

errc says

Yea but, that extra $20-30 a week will buy..

...a tank and a half of gas each week.

Why belittle the middle, working class people?

jazz_music says

DON'T BE SUCH A FUCKING PUSHOVER JUST BECAUSE YOU'VE BEEN FUCKED ALREADY

Please attack the message, not the user.

signed: the management

anon_3b28c says

anon_cb975 says

Trump approval at 49%. Just wait until after April 15th.

The new withholding rates are already in effect. April 15th is last year's taxes so nothing changes then.

It does for the smart people, who took advantage of the new tax plan and paid their taxes early in 2017. They'll get a bigger deduction for 2017.

jazz_music says

Sniper says

Why belittle the middle, working class people?

Yeah, WHY MAKE THEIR LITTLE BENEFIT TEMPORARY AND MAKE THE OLIGARCH'S LION SHARE PERMANENT?

For ten years. 10 years is an eternity when dealing with the assholes in DC. Any chance there might be some "tweaking" of the tax plan in the next ten years?

Here's another hint, people who pay the MOST taxes will probably get the BIGGEST benefit. Amazing, isn't it.

Unless, should we give BIGGER tax breaks to the 47% of people who pay ZERO federal taxes now?

jazz_music says

DO NOT BLINDLY FOLLOW!

STOP IT!

STOP IT!

STOP IT!

And stop criticizing Clinton and Obama too

THIS!
The mentality of a TDS often manifests itself with a viceral loathing of a mogul turned president who, I think, would like to better the lot of ALL Americans while these same TDS sufferers are protecting the very politicians who have become filthy rich through "public service".
Trump was elected because we did not want to be serviced by Hillary anymore.

jazz_music says

Yeah, WHY MAKE THEIR LITTLE BENEFIT TEMPORARY AND MAKE THE OLIGARCH'S LION SHARE PERMANENT?

You’re quite right. It’s a hostage negotiation. Give us a GOP majority or the middle class tax break gets it!
The elite tax break will last forever unless their gambit fails.

Sniper says

jazz_music says

Sniper says

Why belittle the middle, working class people?

Yeah, WHY MAKE THEIR LITTLE BENEFIT TEMPORARY AND MAKE THE OLIGARCH'S LION SHARE PERMANENT?

For ten years. 10 years is an eternity when dealing with the assholes in DC. Any chance there might be some "tweaking" of the tax plan in the next ten years?

Here's another hint, people who pay the MOST taxes will probably get the BIGGEST benefit. Amazing, isn't it.

Unless, should we give BIGGER tax breaks to the 47% of people who pay ZERO federal taxes now?

You should have seen the looks on my coworkers faces when the tax cut hit their paycheck. I personally get a bit more than a hundred a paycheck more...and my actual annual reduction in federal taxes paid will be more like $3500. One ardent Dem supporter flipped and claimed that her taxes were going way up. Of course I know she bought her home in the mid 90's(the absolute sweet point in time to have bought in LA). So I mentioned the $10,000 cap and she flipped saying how she no longer would be able to deduct her car payment and bunch of other shit she wasn't supposed to be itemizing.

Anywho, I noticed, my Dem supporting wife noticed. When my ardent dem supporting stepdaughter files her taxes, I'm showing her mine and the roughly $18K in Federal and State taxes I pay each year(along with how much President Trump reduced my obligation by). Thanks to a shit media, she doesnt have any clue about what we actually pay in taxes.

Here’s a hint for clueless Trump supporters. A 14% permanent cut is much better than 1-3% temporary cut.

Let’s go REALLY slow so every Trump supporter will get this. This has been made into laws for months now and still.

Which is bigger? 3% or 14%?

(It’s not a trick question).

Sniper says

jazz_music says

Sniper says

Why belittle the middle, working class people?

Yeah, WHY MAKE THEIR LITTLE BENEFIT TEMPORARY AND MAKE THE OLIGARCH'S LION SHARE PERMANENT?

For ten years. 10 years is an eternity when dealing with the assholes in DC. Any chance there might be some "tweaking" of the tax plan in the next ten years?

Here's another hint, people who pay the MOST taxes will probably get the BIGGEST benefit. Amazing, isn't it.

Unless, should we give BIGGER tax breaks to the 47% of people who pay ZERO federal taxes now?

A one time saving of less than $1k for people in most states. Sounds like really poor and desperate people to me if they even bothered with this crap. The opposite of “smart.”

Sniper says

anon_3b28c says

anon_cb975 says

Trump approval at 49%. Just wait until after April 15th.

The new withholding rates are already in effect. April 15th is last year's taxes so nothing changes then.

It does for the smart people, who took advantage of the new tax plan and paid their taxes early in 2017. They'll get a bigger deduction for 2017.

CovfefeButDeadly says

I personally get a bit more than a hundred a paycheck more...and my actual annual reduction in federal taxes paid will be more like $3500.

Wait, didn't the Dems say only the 1% would benefit from the new tax plan. Nice, you're in the 1% now. :)

CovfefeButDeadly says

You should have seen the looks on my coworkers faces when the tax cut hit their paycheck.

Wow, sounds like tons of more people just joined the 1% now, anyone know how the Dems will spin this, since most workers gained benefits from the new tax plan?

CovfefeButDeadly says

Thanks to a shit media,...

....most people won't hear about the positive effects of the new tax plan.

Yeah it's very real. But there's help for those willing.

Sniper says

Wait, didn't the Dems say only the 1% would benefit from the new tax plan. Nice, you're in the 1% now. :)

Nope--they said the vast majority of the borrowed money will go to the 1%. Which is 100% true. The statement above is a lie.

anon_8f378 says

Sniper says

Wait, didn't the Dems say only the 1% would benefit from the new tax plan. Nice, you're in the 1% now. :)

Nope--they said the vast majority of the borrowed money will go to the 1%. Which is 100% true. The statement above is a lie.

Geez, not this shit again, it's really getting repetitious...

The 1% pay the MAJORITY of federal taxes now. Common sense and math skills should tell anyone that they would get a benefit from a tax reduction.

I'll ask this question again, seems no one can answer it:

Sniper says

should we give BIGGER tax breaks to the 47% of people who pay ZERO federal taxes now?

That apparently is a really difficult question to answer, not one response yet.

anon_8f378 says

they said

Who's "they"?

anon_7e933 says

I'll ask this question again, seems no one can answer it:

Sniper says

should we give BIGGER tax breaks to the 47% of people who pay ZERO federal taxes now?

That apparently is a really difficult question to answer, not one response yet.

How about we give the majority of tax breaks to the middle class? You know the ~35% of the people that work and pay taxes on their labor?

anon_7e933 says

anon_8f378 says

they said

Who's "they"?

In a case like this, typically the pronoun refers to the subject of the question that is being answered. So, "they" is referring to the Dems.

anon_8f378 says

anon_7e933 says

I'll ask this question again, seems no one can answer it:

Sniper says

should we give BIGGER tax breaks to the 47% of people who pay ZERO federal taxes now?

That apparently is a really difficult question to answer, not one response yet.

How about we give the majority of tax breaks to the middle class? You know the ~35% of the people that work and pay taxes on their labor?

This lie has been debunked numerous times on this site. Here is the chart again showing who in the working class will get benefits from the tax plan. Please save the chart for future reference.



I just don't get why some people on this site choose to recycle the same lies, over and over.

anon_8f378 says

anon_7e933 says

anon_8f378 says

they said

Who's "they"?

In a case like this, typically the pronoun refers to the subject of the question that is being answered. So, "they" is referring to the Dems.

I'm glad that was cleared up, so these "Dems" are the same ones that this thread is named about suffering from TDS.

Dems and TDS go together like peanut butter and jelly.

Sniper says

This lie has been debunked numerous times on this site. Here is the chart again showing who in the working class will get benefits from the tax plan. Please save the chart for future reference.

Nope. That chart doesn't show where the majority of the borrowed money goes. Someone getting back $1 looks the same as someone getting back $1MM. Which is why you continue to post it.

Sniper says

But hey , don't worry. Because of voodoo economics, the deficit is going to go down. ( I wish I could LOL).

anon_8f378 says

That chart doesn't show where the majority of the borrowed money goes. Someone getting back $1 looks the same as someone getting back $1MM. Which is why you continue to post it.

How many people are getting back $1M, that's just total nonsense.

OK, your turn. Please post a chart showing the total number of workers that fit each of those income brackets, so everyone can see the data.

Or, since all income groups are getting a benefit, are they all considered "1%ers" now to fit that Dem narrative?

Hanging out with my wealthy liberal in-laws on a private island in Maine this week. They truly do believe that Trump is a Russian agent who would build concentration camps for muslims if they don't "resist".

I just smile and nod lest I am ostrcized as a "Trump Supporter" which is like a nazi.

The Case for a Trump Monarchy.
https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/08/01/sen-richard-blumenthal-president-trump-will-become-monarch-if-judge-kavanaugh-confirmed/

At least Trump would be easier to get rid off than a whole corrupt systemic deep state working against people in secret.