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Feux Follets says

Making shitty things that go bump in the night with hundreds of fatalities

Making EVERYTHING including your computer and the electrical grid that powers it! Men make the world! Why? Because women don’t want to do those jobs!

Saturday there was such a huge ceremony for this wonderful achievement my friend was under the impression it was opened.

This whole episode reeks of premature back patting, at the expense of real lives. A photo Opp and a construction milestone to bill for work poorly performed.

rando says

Should be strictly non-racist and non-sexist competence. We just want the best person for the job, period.

Absolutely true, and sadly it is not the case. I'd hire a Martian if "it" would be more competent than human. Even more sadly, some people are willfully blind and do not see that hiring nowadays involves a large component which is unrelated to competence. Furthermore, if the competence is not the main decisive factor in hiring, it is logical to assume that hired persons who benefit from affirmative action are less competent than ones who had to fight affirmative action to get hired.

We should do a walkout against female engineers.

People dont kill people. Female engineers kill people.

If you disagree w me, then you are putting politics above the live of these peaceful pedestrians... you nazis.

I was a pre-med even though I never had any intention of going to medical school. Germaphobe. I just declared that as my major because it contained the classes I wanted and sounded cool / got me laid and I was beating all the kids who did want to get into med-school.

I wound up tutoring a lot of the kids in my classes and hung out with them on weekends, at parties etc. Most were Hispanic and used to joke with me (because it was true) that they didn't have to raise their ~3.0 GPA or use Kaplan to study up for the MCAT or put any effort into their application letters because they were going to be let in easier given they were Hispanic. (City is >50% Hispanic)

Sort of scared the fuck out of me.

Don't cross Liberal bridges don't go under them.
8 people in Miami did that Once!

in general, the people who complain most about the women in STEM movement are the women were great scientists on their own without any help. They get pissed more than anyone when they see an incompetent person promoted because of their gender.

This article is a pretty good take on how the Women in STEM movement actually does do a lot of disservice to female scientists.

http://thefederalist.com/2018/03/16/what-the-disgrace-of-ceo-elizabeth-holmes-says-about-the-push-for-women-in-stem/#disqus_thread

In particular, one of the user comments from a woman was very telling.

"'Only' 30% of STEM students are women? That's a lot. When you go to college, they actually let you CHOOSE your major. No one is complaining that 'only' 10% of education majors are men. People are doing what they want to do, and that's a good thing.
Also nothing wrong with women in STEM majors not working in STEM careers. I got a degree in Biochemistry and a minor in Physics. Because I wanted to. Now I stay home with my five kids. Because I want to. Stop acting like there is something wrong with women choosing what they want to do just because it's not what you want them to do."

Feux Follets says

ack to female STEM types and minorities. The True Story of “Hidden Figures,” the Forgotten Women Who Helped Win the Space Race

A new book and movie document the accomplishments of NASA’s black “human computers” whose work was at the heart of the country’s greatest battles.

When will PBS and Smithsonian report on thousands of mostly white and Asian males which are behind all Nobel prizes? It is well-known that nearly all lab work, for which someone gets a Nobel prize, is done by winners' graduate and postdoctoral students, who are "forgotten" just as much as the number crunchers in the above story. There are hundreds of them, yet they barely get a mention anywhere, other than in specialized publications. Yet neither PBS nor Smithsonian seems to be reporting on that. Wait, may be this reporting has something to do with prevalent ideology.

And lets try once more for people who are resistant to logic.

1. It is clear that in this country hiring/admission to schools is biased towards certain minorities. There is ample evidence for that, such as this for medical schools:



And here for universities: https://www.princeton.edu/~tje/files/webOpportunity%20Cost%20of%20Admission%20Preferences%20Espenshade%20Chung%20June%202005.pdf

Quote: African-American applicants receive the largest race/ethnic preference (by a factor of 5.5 over whites) followed by Hispanics. Asians experience the greatest disadvantage in admissions vis-a`-vis other comparable racial/ethnic groups, including those of other races. The odds of admission for Asians are nearly 30 percent lower than those of their white counterparts

What that says to me is that the average Asian in system will be more qualified that average white, who will be more qualified than average black person. This does not mean that ALL Asians or ALL whites will be more qualified, or all minorities will be less qualified, but statistically this should be true as there are smaller numbers of less-qualified Asians or whites accepted.

Are these admission policies discriminatory or not? If black, Hispanic, or female applicants would need to get higher scores to be accepted, would that be discrimination or not? Does this system results in lower trust of minority graduates or not? Should this system result in lower trust for minority graduates or not?

2. Given that a certain % of purchases have to be made from minority-controlled firms, is it possible that sometimes companies with worse track record are chosen? Is the fact that certain % of purchases have to be made from certain ethnicities discrimination of not? Would it be discrimination if certain % of purchases would have to be made from white Southerners and how that would be different? Is it possible that in case of Florida bridge, the construction company with previous record of bridge collapses was chosen because it is minority owned? Or, even more likely, because company was both minority owned and its owner was a member of old boys (persons) club who rubs shoulders with local politicians.

Feux Follets says

Back to female STEM types and minorities. The True Story of “Hidden Figures,” the Forgotten Women Who Helped Win the Space Race

Did they get the jobs because they were black?
No!
They got those jobs because they were good at math.
I saw that movie in theaters and enjoyed it. Certainly we owe a debt of gratitude to the women who made the space race possible.

It's also important to remember that most of these women were "Human Calculators".

They were given numbers to crunch by the men, who knew for what purpose the numbers were being crunched.

It's like giving credit to the prep cook for the Chef-Owner's Michelin-rated restaurant.

"But I chopped the chives!"

The reason you're hearing about this story, and the story about the female calculators who worked with astronomers in the early 20th Century, is part of the "Women in STEM" propaganda campaign. Their role is quite ancillary to the discoveries and accomplishments that happened.

Additionally, the film was a lie. The black woman was already a supervisor in 1949, before the Space Race. And everybody used the White Bathroom for years, and years went by before anybody gave a shit about it.

Again, like praising the guy who runs the cement mixer and his supervisor, instead of the Architect who designed and oversaw the new crazy building (but hopefully not bridge).

drB6 says

When will PBS and Smithsonian report on thousands of mostly white and Asian males which are behind all Nobel prizes? It is well-known that nearly all lab work, for which someone gets a Nobel prize, is done by winners' graduate and postdoctoral students, who are "forgotten" just as much as the number crunchers in the above story. There are hundreds of them, yet they barely get a mention anywhere, other than in specialized publications. Yet neither PBS nor Smithsonian seems to be reporting on that. Wait, may be this reporting has something to do with prevalent ideology.

Exactly. I gotta start reading threads in order instead of working backwards, totally missed this before I posted above.

georgeliberte says

Yes, but is collapsed in an artistic feminine sort of way. Score one for wonder woman.

Not just a woman but a woman of color. SJW's are celebrating.

H1-B engineers?

why don't you point out what exactly in the article that you object to instead of attacking the publication

Feux Follets says

theoakman says

why don't you point out what exactly in the article that you object to instead of attacking the publication

I object to the publication that is heavily biased, why don't you like minorities ?

I am a minority and married outside my race. .so did my parents. What's wrong with the article?

Feux Follets says

theoakman says

I am a minority and married outside my race. .so did my parents.

Sounds like a classic example of virtue signaling.

theoakman says

What's wrong with the article?

Read the article, spent some time reading other articles by the same author.

Both the publication/website "The Federalist" and the author are very cozy right of center, far right.

The article has some merit but personally I question the real motive. The author is not Snow White.

The original intent of the thread was to inflame and anger while insinuating that the root cause of the bridge collapse was due primarily to a female engineer being involved and a company that has minority ownership of some fashion.

Furthermore insinuation suggests that said collapse would not have occurred had a traditio...

I didn't contribute to the idea that a woman is responsible for the bridge collapse. I'm sure there are 20 people that deserve to be fired or prosecuted for this one. That being said, the article had nothing to do with it either. I do believe that trying to push a particular group to increase their participation into a field leads to less desirable outcomes.

Feux Follets says

The article has some merit but personally I question the real motive. The author is not Snow White.

The Left only likes "facts" delivered by the lame-stream media, who of course pick and choose what to report.

The14thRusskiClown says

PrivilegedtobeWhite says

The Left only likes "facts" delivered by the lame-stream media, who of course pick and choose what to report.

Is that a fact or just an opinion?

Fact

The14thRusskiClown says

Is that a fact or just an opinion?

So you gonna do this for a while should I go back to being Tenpoundbass and you be the moniker that makes a mockery of the stupid Liberal cocksuckers and their folly charade.

Hey hey hey!!! Don't you think Jeanine is right, McCabe should have been taken out in fucking handcuffs for him to whine like a little bitch Jeanine said she would slap that pussy.

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2018/03/17/judge-jeanine-mccabe-quit-claiming-victim-status-taken-handcuffs/

Fuck Liberal putos and mardicones.

I like how I manipulate Patnet fools to change their name out of rage trying to give me shit, but instead they bring heat and shed light on their own ineptitude.

Fucking Idiots!

I get a lot of mileage out of the kick I get out of that I really do!

Fivelbsbrowntrout says

PrivilegedtobeWhite says

The14thRusskiClown says

PrivilegedtobeWhite says

The Left only likes "facts" delivered by the lame-stream media, who of course pick and choose what to report.

Is that a fact or just an opinion?

Fact

If fact then proof? Or just opinion like I suspected in the first place.

As a typical Lefty, you've already made up your mind. Case in point.

It's OK. They all have non-extraditable visas to their countries of origin.

Yeah funny how that site has been scrubbed ain't it?

You tell me a single company in America that would get a University Contract with a home page that has a string of White middle aged males strung 1200 pixels wide across the page.

Fucking aint happening Bubbie.

Feux Follets says

Furthermore insinuation suggests that said collapse would not have occurred had a traditional alpha male white owned construction company with alpha male white engineers been at the helm of the operation.

How many white owned with white helmed construction companies have had bridges collapse in 5 days?

AGS...
Another disease predispositioned towards libbies...

FortWayne says

What happened to hiring qualified people instead of hiring for affirmative action?

for now i'd rather be in control of avoiding the nitwits...but maybe after 30 years of live testing somewhere...like Chicago..where the casualty rate isn't so important...

errc says

it would hopefully be geared towards getting “self driving” cars on the road. This is the technological advancement I’m looking most forward to...get these fucking nitwits off the roads and let the cpu’s gps them around ffs

Feux Follets says

CBOEtrader says

How many white owned with white helmed construction companies have had bridges collapse in 5 days?

And this is relevant to anything how ?

White men are only hired when they are the best. Therefore, shit like this is far less likely go happen. Fact.

When a company values diversity over competency, expect bridges to collapse in 5 days (amongst other extraordinary displays of incompetence). Fact.

Guns don't kill people, diversity hire engineers kill people.

Feux Follets says

Trying to make a case that this occurred because of gender or race is ludicrous.

We do not know that. You are avoiding acknowledging possibility that a less-qualified person/s were hired because of affirmative action. I showed above with school admission statistics that this is a distinct possibility.

Feux Follets says

When will PBS and Smithsonian report on thousands of mostly white and Asian males which are behind all Nobel prizes? It is well-known that nearly all lab work, for which someone gets a Nobel prize, is done by winners' graduate and postdoctoral students, who are "forgotten" just as much as the number crunchers in the above story.

No need. The comment made indicated it is a well know fact ergo common knowledge to the man on the street, yes ?

OK, lets rephrase: While among scientists it is well-known that nearly all lab work, for which someone gets a Nobel prize, is done by winners' graduate and postdoctoral students, who are "forgotten" just as much as the number crunchers in the above story, general public is unaware of this fact. Should Smithsonian/PBS make a move, and will it make the movie?

We all know the answer. Since it is not "correct" minorities, no one will care.

Feux Follets, you can make your point without the personal attacks.

Try again. Thanks.

Fivelbsbrowntrout says

Or was every person working on this project an alma mater of FUI?

Lol, this is such a left field straw man, all i can do is LOL.

Feux Follets says

Selective moderation again Goran. FUCK YOU

LOL, I've seen you personally attack others. Perhaps take responsibility for your actions and follow the forum rules. Its not GK's fault you are attacking others.

Has anyone attacked you personally? If so, point it out.

Feux Follets says

Have fun guys - you all are some of the reasons people left here - actually most of the reasons

I see you are still blaming others for your inability to stick to the topic rather than attack others.

If you cant make your points w/o attacking others then good riddance to you.

Feux Follets says

purposely goading

You mean making a point? LOL, try a counter point rather than stamping around and cursing the forum

Don't be goaded ya'll need to learn to accept groupthink you can't change.
You don't have to be the final word on every damn thing, and yes those trying to Educate you are more often than not, the dumbest son of a bitch out of everybody.

Knowing you're being goaded and triggered is half the battle.

Feux Follets, comments from both sides have been marked as personal. Some people change their posts and behavior.

You think I like nuking post? I'm doing this to help Patrick out since I like the community and I figure I should contribute something since I'm not paying Patrick's rent or server costs.

Why not make it easy and just tune down the personal attacks in your post? I think you make good points without the garbage.