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Sad, the price of that poster board is higher than their combined IQs:


The power of Liberal kool-aid.

Sniper says

Sad, the price of that poster board is higher than their combined IQs:


The power of Liberal kool-aid.

please keep me safe? Honey, let me take you to Firing Line for a few hours and I’ll teach you how to keep yourself safe.

It's absolutely a mental health issue.

The problem is Liberals can't confront their past incredible failure and human rights violation of ending public hospitalization of the severely mentally ill.

They still want to believe that Society is Crazy, and People aren't Crazy.

HEYYOU says

passing a law that abolished involuntary hospitalization of people struggling with mental illness.

You think a Doctor should have authority to take your freedom away and force treatment upon you? Ya, no thanks

HEYYOU says

"He made similar decisions while he was the governor of California, releasing more than half of the state’s mental hospital patients and passing a law that abolished involuntary hospitalization of people struggling with mental illness. This started a national trend of de-institutionalization."

Wrong. It was Liberals.
1967.
http://www.lacourt.org/division/mentalhealth/MH0017.aspx

End the inappropriate, indefinite, and involuntary commitment of persons with mental health disorders, developmental disabilities, and chronic alcoholism, and to eliminate legal disabilities
Provide prompt evaluation and treatment of persons with mental health disorders or impaired by chronic alcoholism
Guarantee and protect public safety
Safeguard individual rights through judicial review
Provide individualized treatment, supervision, and placement services by a conservatorship program for persons who are gravely disabled
Encourage the full use of all existing agencies, professional personnel and public funds to accomplish these objectives and to prevent duplication of services and unnecessary expenditures
Protect persons with mental health disorders and developmental disabilities from criminal acts

Apparently, by releasing mentally ill people on to the street, trusting crazy people to voluntarily show up and get their meds, actually results in them just being crazy and alcoholic on the streets.

We went maybe from making it too easy, to making it so difficult that under Florida's rough equivalent, the Baker Act, it's almost impossible to forcibly hospitalize somebody.

Cruz had 30+ interactions with police, and many more with school authorities, the latter of whom wanted to Baker Act him but the Administrators couldn't be arsed, one because they're lazy, two they're risk averse, and three it's damned difficult and too easily the subject of a lawsuit.

If you want to Free The Crazy, the tradeoff is mass violence, poop in the street, many more homeless and drug addicts and petty crimes.

You can show your humanity by liberating them from the Santarium's bland food in the cafeteria to die from a drug overdose, or a beating by fellow homeless, or simply freezing in a gutter.

There is no Golden Third Way where they come in voluntarily for regular pill dispensation and a conversation with Dr. Mosby, while living a normal life. That's a fantasy. Most are severely mentally ill or brain damaged and they just are going to disappear onto the street. No 72-hour evalutation is going to get the mix of pills right, going to provide them with human contact that will last them weeks into the future, nor keep them from wandering the street at all hours.

If Kids who shoot their neighbor's animals, threaten to kill people, throw chairs throught windows, brag about being a professional school shooter, and call the police begging to be hospitalized, can't be forcibly hospitalized, accept school shootings or crazed subway stabbings or EATING FACE on a bridge, as a way of life.

The switch in the late 60s/70s from beautiful urban landscapes to hellholes of poopy streets and drug addicts is directly related to the change in the Mental Health Laws.

HEYYOU says

law that abolished involuntary hospitalization of people struggling with mental illness

That was a good thing. When you give someone lots of money to involuntarily stick people for pretend diseases into asylums, sooner or later they'll start making up diseases and sticking normal people into institutions. Reagan got this one right.

There is a solution to homelessness, but not by our left wing Democratic government that stupidly builds shelters for them, while hobos don't want to be in shelters. Funny how "freedom" works.

The release of the mentally impaired from institutions was also fostered by the legal system, who saw the mentally ill as a source of captive sympathy "clients" that could be used to sue anybody for the slightest infractions for secondary gain.

They released the gov and the institutions from liability by closing the facilities and releasing the inmates. Thanks, legal system. Overnight, the streets of California were filled with raving whackos.

Ceffer says

The release of the mentally impaired from institutions was also fostered by the legal system, who saw the mentally ill as a source of captive sympathy "clients" that could be used to sue anybody for the slightest infractions for secondary gain.

They released the gov and the institutions from liability by closing the facilities and releasing the inmates. Thanks, legal system. Overnight, the streets of California were filled with raving whackos.

You got it - That's literally what happened, and Ground Zero was San Jose

The fourth and final ingredient was the passage of the Lanterman-Petris-Short (LPS) act in 1967 by the California State legislature. The LPS act ended the inappropriate, indefinite and involuntary commitment of mentally disordered persons to institutions and encouraged the full use of existing agencies, personnel and funds to provide treatment, supervision and placement of gravely disabled persons. The authors of the LPS act envisioned an expanded system of community based mental health centers providing appropriate and timely support to those in need at a reduced cost to the State.

The LPS act was fully implemented into law in 1969. The release of thousands of individuals into the community from the State’s asylums and institutions began in 1970 and continued throughout the decade. One example vividly illustrates what it was like and what would happen in communities, large and small, across the State. Over 3800 mentally ill people were released from Agnews State Hospital on June 30, 1972 into the San Jose area. This resulted in the creation of a “mental health ghetto” overnight as various service providers converted vacant buildings and abandoned fraternity houses into board and care homes.Between 1969 and 1970, California counties would be required to provide mental health services to over 45,000 inpatients and 120,000 outpatients. While the authors of the legislation thought they were improving lives, what they actually did was release thousands of ill, confused and vulnerable individuals into communities that were simply unprepared to provide the services and support envisioned.

And made landlords very rich by redirecting all that public health spending and SSI Checks for the disabled from professional, high quality institutions with excellent facilities, 24-7 medical care and on-staff professionals (including MDs and RNs), to halfway houses with a single LPN or SJW trying to coral a dozen crazy people.
https://namica.org/about-us/history/

They went from focussed liability to distributed liability. A lot harder to wring money from a large number of piddling half way houses scraping by on checks thrown at them by the government than Agnew's State Hospital. I remember the screamers and hallucinators winding up in Berkeley, to add to the already colorful milieu.

Goran_K says

Feux Follets says

This is less than 5,000 ?

Is that LA? Obviously not.

What is that even? According to the image meta data, that picture was taken on "12/13/06".

WTF?

It's not the first time fake shit is posted from that FF account.

Why, oh why is there a problem? ask Homeless Advocates.
http://sanjosehomeless.org/why-are-there-so-many-homeless-people-in-san-jose-part-1/

Ceffer says

They went from focussed liability to distributed liability. A lot harder to wring money from a large number of piddling half way houses scraping by on checks thrown at them by the government than Agnew's State Hospital. I remember the screamers and hallucinators winding up in Berkeley, to add to the already colorful milieu.

Easier I would think. Slum Lords rent those places to NGOs for a pretty penny; you can't charge rent on a slummy building to a State Hospital with it's own grounds and facilities. And instead of one economy-of-scale food and pharma contract, you now are paying more to a diverse bunch of suppliers.

Liberals are now showing that skin headed chick (that is a girl right?) on every news outlet they own. Left wing propaganda full swing.

Sure you didn’t...

Feux Follets says

Total failure - worldwide event ! More coming. HeadSet says

For you to dispute the <5000 in LA by using a crowd shot of DC to imply a huge crowd in LA hurts credibility.

Made a mistake, didn't catch the "LA" only in the title, sue me.

We have other posters here who post blatantly false stories and they get half dozen likes and the rest of the Trumpettes agree with them even though the whole story is completely false.

FortWayne says

Sure you didn’t...

Feux Follets says

Total failure - worldwide event ! More coming. HeadSet says

For you to dispute the <5000 in LA by using a crowd shot of DC to imply a huge crowd in LA hurts credibility.

Made a mistake, didn't catch the "LA" only in the title, sue me.

We have other posters here who post blatantly false stories and they get half dozen likes and the rest of the Trumpettes agree with them even though the whole story is completely false.

No big deal. Hopefully in the future he will know that CNN is fakenews

CBOEtrader says

FortWayne says

Sure you didn’t...

Feux Follets says

Total failure - worldwide event ! More coming. HeadSet says

For you to dispute the <5000 in LA by using a crowd shot of DC to imply a huge crowd in LA hurts credibility.

Made a mistake, didn't catch the "LA" only in the title, sue me.

We have other posters here who post blatantly false stories and they get half dozen likes and the rest of the Trumpettes agree with them even though the whole story is completely false.

No big deal. Hopefully in the future he will know that CNN is fakenews

You’re assuming CNN isn’t current employment.

Anyways CNN should now have no credibility whatsoever considering they’ve sold overseas branch’s to the governments of the Philippines and Turkey.

Liberals were once Democrats and the 1st amendment defenders to the death. I’d love to see those past Democrats defend CNN as unbiased news reporters now.

TwoScoopsPlissken says

Easier I would think. Slum Lords rent those places to NGOs for a pretty penny; you can't charge rent on a slummy building to a State Hospital with it's own grounds and facilities. And instead of one economy-of-scale food and pharma contract, you now are paying more to a diverse bunch of suppliers.

The general costs of operating the main hospitals/facilities was enormous and increasing even without the liability, along the lines of usual government efficiency. There were a lot of milkers who killed the cow. The state wanted a specific limited line item budget where they could mail the checks and walk away.

Santa Cruz is installing a huge tent as a shelter for the streets overflowing with druggie homeless and whackos. The police just recycle them back out as soon as they pick them up, hoping nobody notices that they commit several offenses a day on different turf after they are dropped off. The police are more of a "Homeless Uber" than an enforcement body. The liberal view that jails are horrible places and that police are a menace also keeps enforcement extraordinarily lenient. Many of the people recycled are multiple offenders on probation. They aren't even reported to their probation officers. If it weren't for "sanctuary" status, the police would spend all of their time corralling illegals and homeless. There would no time for legs up, coffee and donuts.

Of course, there are nominal rules that the homeless can't drink, smoke or use drugs in the shelters. Yeah, that's going to keep them there. However, it creates a lively Whacko Homeless Industrial Complex that is generating another ineffectual but self lobbying bureaucracy.

Sniper says

Feux Follets says

There are no shortages of people marching - none.

So what are they actually marching for?

I tried to watch a bit of the Communist News Network to see what the solutions these Special Snowflakes were proposing.

I saw a lot of video clips full of Tag lines, slogans, punch lines, false narratives, but I didn't hear a single one of these clueless kids actually spew a detailed suggestion on what they want done.

Quotes like "vote them out", "stop the violence", "defeat guns", "we are the change", "guns don't die, children do", "NRA kills", etc.

What the Fuck.. Nothing but brainwashed Zombies.

Libbies, please help here, what exact solutions are the Blue team proposing, or are they just continuing to bitch, without any remedy?

Apparently the Libbies here are as confused as these Special Snowflakes.

TwoScoopsPlissken says

Crowded Street.

Ha! Thats right in front of the State Court of Appeals in the Ronald Reagan Building! Theres a New Orleans sandwich shop to her right that makes a mean Po'Boy.

Feux Follets says

FortWayne says

Left wing propaganda full swing.

Read Infowars, The Gateway Pundit, Breitbart etc. today ?

No shortage at all of propaganda there as well - especially the first two sources. I scan them everyday so I know what will show up on here the same day or the day after.

99.99% of the time it's a slam dunk - one or more will show up with one or more of the attention grabbing click bait headlines.

CNN SOLD SOME OF ITS NEWS AGENCIES TO FOREIGN GOVERNMENTS!!!!

The rest were at home watching cnn

Feux Follets says

FortWayne says

Left wing propaganda full swing.

Read Infowars, The Gateway Pundit, Breitbart etc. today ?

We're now comparing a few fringe Internet sites to the abundance of Left Wing, Liberal, Radical propaganda sites in the MSM? Like CNN, MSNBC, NPR, ABC, CBS, NBC, Bloomberg, etc. And that's before you get into ones like Facebook, Google, Twitter, Yahoo, Youtube, Mother Jones, Huff Post, WaPo, NYT.....

Shall I go on??

Report: March For Our Lives Crowd Count Well Below Expected And Initial Reports

Around 200,000 people attended the March For Our Lives gun control event in Washington, D.C. Saturday afternoon, CBS News reported.

The number is well below the 500,000 number organizers of the event expected and 600,000 less than initially reported by many news outlets immediately following the celebrity-fueled march and rally.

USA Today said Saturday the initially reported number of 800,000 marchers could “be the biggest single-day protest in D.C.’s history,” becoming a number that is larger than the 2017 Women’s March that brought 500,000 to the capitol.



BREAKING: the #MarchForOurLives has drawn a crowd of over 800,000—200,000 more than Trump’s inauguration!

RETWEET if you support these brave patriots as they march against gun violence! pic.twitter.com/ZGkJL4plGl

— March For Our Lives

http://dailycaller.com/2018/03/25/report-march-for-our-lives-crowd-count-low/

500K, just MORE fake news from the MSM.

Marching for Putin, you Commie scum!

Sniper says

Report: March For Our Lives Crowd Count Well Below Expected And Initial Reports

I knew it.

March for Our Lives 90% Adult, average age was just under 49 years old.

"The Children are begging us!!!"

The March for Our Lives was, of course, billed as a march by students affected by mass shootings for students who might, in the future, be affected by a mass shooting. But, it turns out, despite the hours spent bussing in kids from all over the country, and the attention lavished on a handful of student organizers, the vast majority — a whopping 90% — of marchers were middle-aged.

This shouldn't come as much of a surprise to anyone familiar with the anti-Trump "Resistance." After an initial wave of marches, the Resistance began to skew older and more female, and by early 2018, consisted almost entirely of Baby Boomer-aged women lecturing their kids and grandkids about the forthcoming nuclear holocaust on social media.

Although the kids provided a catalyst that catapulted the movement back into the headlines, the March for Our Lives had only a thin veneer of youth. Aside from the Parkland students that spoke, and the motivated, progressive kids who boarded buses to Washington, D.C. with only weeks lead time, the organizers were all legacy progressive organizations led by career progressive lobbyists.

And now, the data pans that out. According to a scientific survey taken during the March itself by researchers associated with The Washington Post and who have tracked the anti-Trump "Resistance" since it began the night after the election in 2016, the same people just keep showing up at everything.

The March for Our Lives was 70% women. Nearly three quarters of the marchers — 72% — had a bachelor's degree or higher level of graduate education, putting them well into the category of "leftist elite."

Most importantly though, less than 10% of marchers were under the age of 18, even though the march was clearly supposed to be for and about high school aged children. Of those adults attending the march who were over the age of 18, the average age was 49 years old — well within the realm of "Baby Boomer."

And the vast majority were career agitators: only about a quarter of marchers had "never protested before."

https://www.dailywire.com/news/28778/most-marcher-our-lives-protesters-werent-young-and-emily-zanotti

I don't know if 49 makes you a Boomer, but it IS middle aged.

In other words, it was all Educators and Social Workers and the Usual Liberal School Marm Types.

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RafiMaas says

It would be hoped that if someone makes a post they were honest enough to now that it's true from the start.

Yes, it also "would be hoped" that people would actually read an article to see that it was talking about Washington D.C, not LA.

Yep, it was the high school kids doing the protesting.

Oh, wait.....

Despite media narrative, study says teenagers made up just 10 percent of March for Our Lives crowd.

A university professor studying large-scale, Trump-era protests in Washington says the media is giving the wrong impression about who made up the crowd during last weekend’s anti-gun March for Our Lives demonstration.

“My research tells a different story about who participated in the March for Our Lives — and it is more complicated and less well-packaged for prime time,” University of Maryland sociology professor Dana R. Fisher wrote in a Wednesday story for the Washington Post.

Fisher’s study indicates that -- while news coverage focused on the teenagers marching for gun control in the wake of last month’s shooting at Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida --- 90 percent of the crowd was actually adults. She said the average age of adults in the crowd was just under 49.

“Contrary to what’s been reported in many media accounts, the D.C. March for Our Lives crowd was not primarily made up of teenagers,” Fisher wrote. “Only about 10 percent of the participants were under 18.”

Fisher said her team sampled 256 people who were randomly selected.

Her research will become a book titled “American Resistance” and will be published after the midterm elections.

Fisher also expressed skepticism that all those who showed up to the march were there primarily because of their views on guns. Some, she said, came for entertainment.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/03/28/despite-media-narrative-study-says-teenagers-made-up-just-10-percent-march-for-our-lives-crowd.html