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Sounds like everyone involved lacked integrity on some level. If i were a juror and saw no immediate physical threat before he pulled the trigger, thats manslaughter (or murder 2?). If the guy was walking towards him to kick him in the head, then its stand your ground.
Cant blame a guy for pushing over a man who is harassing your wife.
MisterLefty says"According to witnesses, McGlockton exited the store and walked over to Drejka who was still arguing with Jacobs in the parking lot. Witnesses say McGlockton forcibly pushed Drejka causing Drejka to fall to the ground. Witnesses told detectives that Drejka was on the ground when he took out a handgun and fired one single round at McGlockton striking him in the chest," police said in a statement.
It's murder. He should be charged.
It's murder. He should be charged.
Why is that? Being the victim of a surprise attack and finding oneself on the ground with attacker continuing to approach the victim gives the latter the grounds to belive he's in danger of serious injury or death. Remember that thug who sucker punched some guy and continued beating him while the victim was laying on the ground? The one which ate a bullet for his valiant deed? Same situation. No point in wasting public resources on prosecution - the guy will walk.
I don’t think this white guy should get away with it. He wasn’t being actively attacked when he decided to fire. If the stand your ground law gives him amnesty for this situation, it’s a very poorly written law.
He wasn’t being actively attacked when he decided to fire.
verbal
Remember that thug who sucker punched some guy and continued beating him while the victim was laying on the ground? The one which ate a bullet for his valiant deed? Same situation.
The shooters life was not in danger when the black guy pushed him away.
The other dude should've kept it on this level instead of escalating it into physical realm and effectively writing a check he was unable to cash.
The shooter seems to have uncontrolled anger issues.
Exactly, there was distance between him, and when the shooter pulled his gun, the dead guy actually backed off and turned sideways. No need to pull the trigger.
I'll commit a sin of self-quoting:
"It's a matter of perception: one thing is to armchair quarterbacking while looking at videos from various angles and the whole 'nother is assessing the situation in fractions of seconds while being on the ground after suprise punch/slam by some big dude."
The jury (if it comes to that) will be instructed by the judge to look at it from the perspective of split-second decisions by a person being suddenly attacked and put in a disadvantaged position. The prosecution won't touch this unless there is pressure from BLM-type hysterical crowd.
Even the sheriff is questioning if it was justified.
Naturally: he has BLM crowd to appease and doesn't want to be pushed out of his job over this shit.Protesters held signs calling the law racist, I guess acknowledging that poor impulse control is somehow a racial trait?
Witnesses say McGlockton forcibly pushed Drejka causing Drejka to fall to the ground. Witnesses told detectives that Drejka was on the ground when he took out a handgun and fired one single round at McGlockton striking him in the chest," police said in a statement.
I would imagine a beating would be a felony.
MrMagic saysEven the sheriff is questioning if it was justified.
Naturally: he has BLM crowd to appease and doesn't want to be pushed out of his job over this shit.
I guess acknowledging that poor impulse control is somehow a racial trait?
Hassan_Rouhani saysNaturally: he has BLM crowd to appease and doesn't want to be pushed out of his job over this shit.Protesters held signs calling the law racist, I guess acknowledging that poor impulse control is somehow a racial trait?
I agree, shooting and killing a guy because you got a little bump is really bad impulse control.
MisterLefty saysI would imagine a beating would be a felony.
So is pulling out a gun and pointing it at someone
MisterLefty saysWitnesses say McGlockton forcibly pushed Drejka causing Drejka to fall to the ground. Witnesses told detectives that Drejka was on the ground when he took out a handgun and fired one single round at McGlockton striking him in the chest," police said in a statement.
How could it be "stand your ground" if the guy was not standing?
MrMagic saysMisterLefty saysI would imagine a beating would be a felony.
So is pulling out a gun and pointing it at someone
Not after the assault has started. The one who starts the physical shit owns the shit through and through
The white dude can't START a verbal assaultYou are making up nonsense. Verbal assault! OMG, you are engaged in writing assault! LOL.
MrMagic saysThe white dude can't START a verbal assaultYou are making up nonsense. Verbal assault! OMG, you are engaged in writing assault! LOL.
Oops..... "nonsense"?
Please provide a link
Merely haranguing someone for parking illegally would not rise to the definition of verbal assault as defined under Florida law.
He flipped out on me called me every n-word, said he's going to shoot me," Kelly said. "He said he was going to kill me, and he went back to his truck, got something out of his truck and walked back up on me."
Store owner Ali Salous came out and shut down the confrontation.
"I didn't know this was going to happen two months later with another guy. It's really sad," he said.
Salous says Drejka has a history of confrontations in and around his store.
"He told me I can't help it. Every time I do this I get in trouble, and I can't help it. I keep doing it," Salous said.
An “assault” is an intentional, unlawful threat by word or act to do violence to the person of another, coupled with an apparent ability to do so, and doing some act which creates a well-founded fear in such other person that such violence is imminent.
to the Florida statutes where it says you can take another person's life with a gun when you're shoved.You are continuing to make things up. Your assertion of verbal assault is a fantasy in your head only. The police refused to arrest him, noting the violent push. MrMagic says
Hmmmm, anyone want to take a bet what his conversation was THIS time? Sure sounds like the white dude was doing this LAST time, when he threatened to shoot that guy:
So they decided to go ahead and waste taxpayer's money after all...
DASKAA saysSo they decided to go ahead and waste taxpayer's money after all...
Funny how that happens when a guy is murdered in cold blood.
MrMagic saysDASKAA saysSo they decided to go ahead and waste taxpayer's money after all...
Funny how that happens when a guy is murdered in cold blood.
Funny how all these charges pressed at the mob's demand tend to blow up in court.
It also notes investigators used a scanner that helps capture measurement and distance to find that Drejka was about 12 feet from McGlockton when he fired the shot.
So, does the 12 feet of distance make it look like the shooter was in immediate harm?
how does 12ft look, especially if defender is laying/sitting on the ground and being very vulnerable to a kick to the head?
"Drejka steadies the firearm with both hands," it says. "McGlockton immediately backs up when confronted with the firearm. As he backs up to his vehicle he begins to turn towards the front of the store away from the shooter."
Yawn, we've been through this many, many times:
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A man who was captured on surveillance video fatally shooting another man in Clearwater, Florida, during a parking-spot spat as his young son watched nearby will not be arrested or charged by police, according to Pinellas County Sheriff.
"I don't make the law. I enforce the law," Pinellas County Sheriff Bob Gualtieri said during a news conference today. "The law in the state of Florida today is that people have a right to stand their ground and have a right to defend themselves when they believe that they are in harm."
The sheriff announced the case will be sent to the state attorney's office for review.
"This will go to the state attorney. Drejka will not be charged [and] will not be arrested by us," Sheriff Gualtieri said. "The state attorney will review it and either he’ll concur or not. And, if he concurs, then there’ll be no charge. Period. If he doesn’t concur, then he’ll make a determination as to what to do with it. And, if he feels like he can overcome that heavy burden at a Stand Your Ground hearing of proving by clear and convincing evidence that Drejka was not entitled to use force in this circumstance, then that’s the state attorney’s determination to make."
According to the Pinellas County Sheriff's Office, around 3:28 p.m. Thursday, Britany Jacobs, 24, was sitting in her car in a handicapped parking space outside a Circle A Food Store while her boyfriend Markeis McGlockton, 28, and their son Markeis McGlockton Jr., 5, went into the store.
While the father and son were in the store, Jacobs was approached by Michael Drejka, 47, police said. The two then got into an argument because of where Jacobs was parked, according to police.
"According to witnesses, McGlockton exited the store and walked over to Drejka who was still arguing with Jacobs in the parking lot. Witnesses say McGlockton forcibly pushed Drejka causing Drejka to fall to the ground. Witnesses told detectives that Drejka was on the ground when he took out a handgun and fired one single round at McGlockton striking him in the chest," police said in a statement.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/gunman-parking-space-shooting-charged-stand-ground-law/story?id=56715356