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Does this mean that we can repeal Obamacare now?

Booger says

Does this mean that we can repeal Obamacare now?

Defintely one less "No" vote now.

One of the first leaders to decisively demonstrate that a fungating brain tumor turns a conservative Republican into a libby.

Wow yah. So this proves that Leftism is caused by brain damage.

Quigley says

Wow yah. So this proves that Leftism is caused by brain damage.

Nah, I don't think so..

Lefties don't have a brain, this is why they need government to tell them everything they need to do.

How do you get your cancer treatment stopped on Friday, and die the next day?

It's not like they pulled the plug in the ICU or took him off of life support.

Weird stuff. The more you know.

RIP

MrMagic says

How do you get your cancer treatment stopped on Friday, and die the next day?

It's not like they pulled the plug in the ICU or took him off of life support.

Weird stuff. The more you know.

You've clearly never had a friend or family member with cancer or a severe illness if you don't understand what happened. Stopping treatment has little to do with his actual condition. Many cancer patients die while still receiving treatment, even though there aren't signs of imminent death. There are patients that cut treatment because they can't stand it and live another year. Staying on the treatment is a determining factor, but just because it stopped Friday and he dies the next day means nothing and is by any means weird.

Liberals and NBC be classy as fuck

https://twitter.com/Beschizza/status/1033519881268940806/video/1

WookieMan says

You've clearly never had a friend or family member with cancer or a severe illness if you don't understand what happened

Yeah my colleague died of cancer, two months from diagnosis to death. She ahs two teenage kids-luckily still has a husband. I was in a meeting with her and working on a project with her -diagnosis hit and two months later she was gone. Who knew it could take out a previously healthy 40+ year old so quick..

I think Andy Whitmore-the guy who played Spartacus got diagnosed and died pretty quickly-he was under 40. Real good shape and fit dude.

lostand confused says

I think Andy Whitmore-the guy who played Spartacus got diagnosed and died pretty quickly-he was under 40. Real good shape and fit dude.

It sucks. It doesn't ask for names and it just takes you. Fitness isn't really a factor in much, specifically in cancer though. Hell, even heart health for a fitness trainer: https://www.cnn.com/2017/04/04/health/bob-harper-biggest-loser-heart-attack/index.html

My Dad had lung cancer and never smoked a day in his life. I could go on and on with my examples, but treatment or no treatment, it can kill so damn quick.

MrMagic says

How do you get your cancer treatment stopped on Friday, and die the next day?

I think some people who are seriously, incurably ill have a sense when their lives are coming to an end and just decide to let nature take its course. That goes against the grain of every medical practitioner today and if he had been in an assisted living facility would probably have been hooked up to machines to keep his vitals functioning.

WookieMan says

Good stuff from you, as usual. Thanks for the contribute.

Don't you just hate when pesky facts destroy you're delusional view on a topic... Sucks, doesn't it?

What fact was destroyed? I get it, you have "people" that are technically considered family. They have no interest in you though. Call them family all you want, but everyone here knows the FACTS. Right?

FYI, I'm not touching a thing in moderation right now. Not sure who put it there. I'm sensing weakness though. Very much so.

I have zero idea who marked these three comment personal. Technically they made the right call. Again, honesty. But they're in moderation. I DIDN'T delete shit.

MrMagic says

I'll quote it too, so we can see how classy our moderators are too..

Fire it up. My comments are personal. I didn't put them there and am not deleting them. @Patrick should be able to verify this.

MrMagic and Wookie. C’mon guys. You two have been going at each other in multiple threads. Can we lower the levels a bit in here?

Tim Aurora says

Trumpster ideology

-If I lose election I will not accept

Isn’t this the entire platform of the Democrat party for the past 22 months? #resist

Also keep it on topic Tim. This is borderline trolling and I’d hate to have to zap your contributions.

Goran_K says

MrMagic and Wookie. C’mon guys. You two have been going at each other in multiple threads. Can we lower the levels a bit in here?

I'm game to stop. Ask the other guy. He's the problem and we all know it. But let's keep the toxic on the board. I'm an idiot, so are you, and so are the rest of the users here according to him. But hey, let's keep him around.

He's driving users off and anyone here can see it. If Pat's cool with that, then whatever, but I do appreciate the intelligent debates, conversation and even arguments here. He's going on ignore here shortly because there's not many (ready that many) comments that are intelligent. He does have some though. See, I'm being nice. For some reason he finds it necessary to bash ANYTHING that doesn't go his way or fits his narrative. Sad to be honest.

I've made some progress and hope to have a somewhat better system working soon, where nothing really gets deleted, only marked spam or personal etc, and a marker put in place of the comment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=SlWqW_FMkEU

They cut to fat guys dressed as dolphins right after lol.

McCain Kervorkianed himself by having Stormy Daniels twerk smother him in the nude while he was on a morphine drip.

He thought Stormy was the only good thing Trump ever did.

I hope that the governor doesn't appoint Cindy McCain. Who does this bitch think she is? She’s important because she opened her legs up to McCain?

Anybody that would pick Palin as their VP is either throwing the election or retarded.

He also had no problem constantly pushing for us to attack Iran for no fucking reason.

The barf is that he stood up for the little people. Bullshit! S&L and his attacks on the POW-MIA families for starters.

Goran_K says

I hope he died easy and didn't suffer.

I agree with that.

I disagreed with most of his policies and Senate votes, but I don't see anything to gain from beating a dead horse or the reputation of a dead Senator. I am also not going to deify him, but I will give him credit where it is due: in 2000, Republicans should have nominated him instead of George W. Bush. The election would then have been McCain vs Gore. One of those two would have got the August PDB that warned, "Bin Ladin Determined To Strike in US." I think either of them would have handled it better than W, and might have prevented 9/11 and the whole GWOT that followed.

If McCain had got that PDB, he might have relied on an aide to read it, but the aide would note the warning about hijacking airliners and using them as missiles. McCain knew all too well the destructive potential of a fully fueled airliner. I can imagine him issuing a bulletin to all airlines and addressing directly all commercial pilots: "Before takeoff, bring whatever you need into the cockpit, and lock the doors for the duration of the flight. If you need food or water, secure them before takeoff. If nature calls mid-flight, use a bucket or a flight suit like I did in Viet Nam. Do not open the cockpit doors for any reason until after landing. Also, in case of attempted hijacking, DO NOT cooperate with hijackers." That would have changed airline policy and made the 9/11 attacks much more difficult, maybe impossible.

If Gore had got that PDB, he might have accomplished the same result, though he would have used administrative protocol rather than directly addressing pilots.

If 9/11 happened anyway, neither Gore nor McCain would have rushed to invade Iraq. The W administration diverted illegally resources from Afghanistan to Iraq, thus losing both Afghanistan and Iraq. Gore would probably not have invaded Iraq at all, and McCain would probably have waited until Afghanistan was at least somewhat under control and then asked the Congress before transferring resources to Iraq.

Also, if the Iraq invasion happened anyway, neither Gore nor McCain would have told Paul Bremer to "de-baathify" the government, including especially the military. Both Gore and McCain would have known the importance of keeping the Iraqi military under control. Even if Bremer had issued the order on his own, Gore would have listened to the generals and rescinded it, and McCain might have done the same if he had been commander in chief. (Instead, McCain deferred to W's envoy even though the decision was obviously disastrous.)

I admit that's speculation, but I do think McCain would have been a better nominee than W. Also, McCain opposed W's terrible tax shift, but then campaigned unfortunately supporting it in 2008.

curious2 says

I admit that's speculation, but I do think McCain would have been a better nominee than W. Also, McCain opposed W's terrible tax shift, but then campaigned unfortunately supporting it in 2008.

Obama vs Mccain is when I started to tune out from GOP vs DNC politics. Mccain to me represents the establishment GOP politicians that I opposed strongly for decades. Obama was the catalyst for a new wave of American Racism that the country is still fighting till this day. I find both of them so utterly statist and terrible, that I haven't supported one of the two party candidates since then.

Trump may be the first non-independent candidate I will vote for in over a decade.

That being said, I am not happy he is dead, and wished he got to enjoy retirement with his family (though he could have made that choice himself long ago but decided for some reason to die in the senate).

RC2006 says

Anybody that would pick Palin as their VP is either throwing the election or retarded.

I think history makes it clear that he was throwing the election. He basically abandoned his campaign toward the end, refused to criticize his opponent, and seemed to lose interest in the process. He was never supposed to win. Republicans were supposed to take the fall for the wealthy elites crashing the system to make themselves super wealthy. The voters would be mollified by seeing our politicians change from red to blue, and everything else would be business as usual.

curious2 says

Also, if the Iraq invasion happened anyway, neither Gore nor McCain would have told Paul Bremer to "de-baathify" the government, including especially the military. Both Gore and McCain would have known the importance of keeping the Iraqi military under control. Even if Bremer had issued the order on his own, Gore would have listened to the generals and rescinded it, and McCain might have done the same if he had been commander in chief. (Instead, McCain deferred to W's envoy even though the decision was obviously disastrous.)

That was the peak moment of stupidity in Iraq.

Quigley says

everything else would be business as usual.

Yep! Eric Holder continued a bizarre plan to buy legal US firearms at legal Gun Dealers, but then transfer the guns to Cartels. Instead of prosecuting 100s of banksters.

Goran_K says

and wished he got to enjoy retirement with his family

Yeah, when you see someone die at 81 you have to wonder how much longer you really want to work.

Booger says

I hope that the governor doesn't appoint Cindy McCain

I think it pretty clear that they cut a deal with the gov back in April or May. If Cindy wanted it she will get it. He should have resigned in May to make way for a new elected senator in Nov. but politics over democracy, he knew then he was on the river of no return.

An imperfect man as we all are, and as he himself would often acknowledge, RIP Senator.

zzyzzx says

Goran_K says

and wished he got to enjoy retirement with his family

Yeah, when you see someone die at 81 you have to wonder how much longer you really want to work.

Maybe he had to continue to work and not retire because he couldn't afford his bills and collect that $174K salary?

...." What you may not know is that McCain and his wife Cindy sit on a private, but hefty fortune.

He's reportedly worth $16 million, according to Celebritynetworth.com. But that's only a fraction of his wealth — the rest comes from his wife, who is an heiress to Hensley & Co., one of the largest Anheuser-Busch distributors.

She reportedly inherited a major stake in the company and became its chairman when her father, the company's founder, passed away. She currently has a net worth around $200 million. "

oops... maybe not..

I didn't agree with many of McCain's policies and positions over the years, but maintained a certain amount of respect for him.

Still can't figure out Sarah Palin... If not for that and the "Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran" quip, he had a good shot at POTUS in 2008.

Political differences aside, RIP Mr. McCain.

WookieMan says

. Patnet isn't a church, but at times it would be nice to see a little decorum.

The mandatory Reverence and Deification (that great word of Curious2) attitude of the Media got my goat.

It's one thing to say "He was a powerful and controversial Senator whose absence will be felt." and be solemn about it. Had they just done that, nobody would have objected.

It's another thing to say "He was AWESOME! and anybody who disagrees is a TRAITOR! Nevermind the very same people who are telling you this dragged him through the mud in 2008, questioning everything from his patriotism to his mental and emotional fitness, and even suggested he was in league with Racists! Now he's the LION OF THE SENATE, DEFENDER OF THE PEEEEEEE-PUL!"