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Fannie: what is really wrong?


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2005 Sep 28, 11:16am   21,225 views  169 comments

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147   Peter P   2005 Sep 30, 10:49am  

I seriously think I’m going to buy a town home in a prime SF neighborhood at the next price trough.

Good idea. Something with a nice view. :)

148   Peter P   2005 Sep 30, 10:50am  

Looks food fightish.

Huh? The pumpkin-pie-in-the-face kind?

149   OO   2005 Sep 30, 12:46pm  

The last time I checked, it is japan that is holding the majority of USD treasury. Why is everyone fearing China so much? China is extremely f*cked up in its financial system (think 60% bad debt for its banks and bad debt in the making every day), so I won't count on them becoming any substantial world power in the next 20 years at least. I have done business here, let me put it in this way, they can use a bit of basic human ethics and honesty. That's why they can ONLY compete on price, and price alone.

As of Sept, 2005, Japan still holds 600B+ USD treasury while China only holds 250B+. This is one thing that completely baffles me. Why do we keep hearing about China while in sheer economic size and prowness, it is not even close to Japan? Name a Chinese brand that you can 't live without and name a Japanese brand for that matter, it's just so crystal clear to me.

Anyway, I concur with Randy on China's action, even if they are as important of a player as the Japanese. A fast devaluating dollar will hurt China much more than us. What do we lose? A bunch of green paper, who wants more?

150   OO   2005 Sep 30, 12:49pm  

Most people moan and bitch abut BA simply because the cost of living is so high. If I were to pick the best spots in the world, price not being an issue, it would have been: Switzerland (plus the Italian lake district), BA, Sydney. I lived in Seattle, BC and Seattle are spectacular in scenery but just rains too much. The first year I moved to Seattle I almost sank into a depression, and mind you, that place has the highest suicidal rate in the country, not a joke!

151   OO   2005 Sep 30, 1:37pm  

That's why the smart parents like ourselves need to move out of USD before it crashes. There are two big bag holders called Japan and China who will continue to hold the bag for a while.

Frankly speaking, I don't give a damn if China goes belly up carrying the bag. I do feel sorry for Japanese though, hardworking people, good ethics, they don't deserve this.

152   Zephyr   2005 Sep 30, 1:56pm  

For China and Japan, it beats their next best alternatives…

For China, supporting the dollar is not only their best option, it is the only viable option.

China is addicted to US sales. By selling to us they accumulate dollars. They are lending those dollars back to us at cheap nominal rates, and ultimately at negative real rates. This is a great deal for us. But they do this to meet their own needs. They MUST continue their rapid growth to avoid massive unemployment and civil unrest.

153   Zephyr   2005 Sep 30, 1:58pm  

Peter P,

“It does not matter something has potential, if that potential is already priced-in or is already overpriced. It is very important to understand what the market has already discounted.”

Yes, but the prevailing assumptions change with time, so the discount changes. This creates the opportunity (at selected times) to buy cheap when the crowd is selling…
“be fearful when others are greedy, and be greedy only when others are fearful.”

The tide is shifting…

154   Zephyr   2005 Sep 30, 2:14pm  

Randy H,

“I have travelled quite extensively, and lived in many US and foreign cities. I find the BA to be among my top 3 choices for many reasons.”

What are the other two?

155   Zephyr   2005 Sep 30, 2:24pm  

ScotC,

Interesting mix of people. Some good and some of them were cheats and scoundrels.

One need not cheat to get ahead, but some choose that path. I find the lack of ethics of several of your charactors to be disturbing.

156   Zephyr   2005 Sep 30, 2:28pm  

But I agree with you about learning how to make money. Most people never get off their asses to make it happen. …even when opportunity stares them in the face.

It really is true (at least to some extent) that you make your own luck.

157   Randy H   2005 Sep 30, 2:49pm  

What are the other two?

For me, personally:

1) Mougins, France. In Provence, near Nice.
2) Marin, SF BA.
3) Heidelberg, Germany (slightly outside, on the Neckar river). If I were to become a "rich-dad", then in a restored feudal castle.

158   Jimbo   2005 Sep 30, 3:17pm  

I too, have travelled all over the world and have lived in Wyoming, San Diego, North Carolina, Montana, rural Northern California and the Bay Area.

This is the place I choose to call home, even though I could live anywhere.

There are few cities I would live in: Amsterdam, New Orleans (okay not right now), San Diego, Jerusalem and here. But San Francisco is my first choice.

It is amusing to me to see people claim that the non-whites live in "ghettos" here. That might be true for blacks and latinos, to a lesser extent, but it is not true for Asians.

Are The Richmond and Sunset ghettos? I think not. They might be a bit foggier than the rest of the city, but they have lower crime rates and better schools.

159   Peter P   2005 Sep 30, 3:47pm  

Mougins, France. In Provence, near Nice.

Nice is nice. Bouillabaisse... yum!

160   Zephyr   2005 Sep 30, 3:48pm  

Here’s why I say cheats and scoundrels:

Mafia connected, tax evading, Affair with secretary….

“He keeps a house in Mission, Texas, which he declares as his permanent resident so he can avoid paying income taxes in Minnesota.”

Others evading taxes with the same trick…

“Sincerity. When you can fake that, you can sell anything.”

These points don’t inspire respect in my book. I consider these items are the behavior of cheats and scoundrels.

161   Peter P   2005 Sep 30, 3:50pm  

24′ of rain, I mean

You scared me. ;)

162   Peter P   2005 Sep 30, 3:52pm  

You know the real estate market has still a loooong way to go up when a bubblehead like yourself acknowledges that $105,000 over asking to $1.4MM for a 1,600 sqft condo isn’t that much.

I just told a friend about people bidding 400K above listing because of your previous posts. Now it is only 105K? I trusted you!

163   Peter P   2005 Sep 30, 3:57pm  

MIRAGE is always only a mirage.

164   praetorian   2005 Sep 30, 4:28pm  

"Gotta love it!"

HEAD! PANTS! NOW!

Cheers,
prat

165   praetorian   2005 Sep 30, 4:40pm  

"I think that if you have the basics in life and perhaps a steady income, that’s all you need."

Programming in ruby helps, too.

Cheers,
prat

166   Peter P   2005 Sep 30, 5:27pm  

New thread: October is here!

167   Peter P   2005 Oct 1, 3:34am  

It’s not about you. It’s about the money. Unless or until you can understand that, the only thing you’re ever going to be is a well-paid but poor slave.

Very well said

It’s what the dollar represents that means something, money.

However, money means purchasing power. If it is not spent eventually, it has no meaning.

168   Peter P   2005 Oct 2, 8:17am  

Jeff, thanks for your insight.

Flipping is the last hope of many people. However, all ponzi schemes will fail eventually.

169   AntiTroll from Oz   2005 Oct 3, 5:21pm  

ScottC,
Oh, well, at least they can’t outsource real estate.

I Thought some RE has been purchased sight unseen over the internet.
Maybe this is only the start, as the internet does allow lower marketing costs than a traditional RE office.

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