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What happened that everybody is pretending to be shocked??
MBS was supposedly a "reformer" and changing Saudi. Now we know he's no different than previous leaders.
Just like Trump is no different than previous Presidents and sucks Saudi dick hard.
We can see in this thread what the Saudis would do to us if we had something they wanted and they had the weapons.
Slaughter the men. Rape the women. Take our children and women as slaves.
MBS was supposedly a "reformer" and changing Saudi. Now we know he's no different than previous leaders.
If MBS is hunting down and killing Wahabbi extremists (provided that is what Khashoggi was), I think that is different than previous Saudi leaders.
What I do not understand is why he went to SA consulate knowing the danger. Perhaps they guaranteed his safety by swearing on Quran...
Which previous Saudi leaders issued driver's licenses to women, and allowed them to attend sports events - including without a male family chapperone?
And Patrick, would you stop buying dope if you knew it came through Mexican drug lords?
lostand confused saystatupu70 saysJust like Trump is no different than previous Presidents and sucks Saudi dick hard.
Confused?
The official Saudi line is that Mr Khashoggi left of the consulate through a back door where, alas, CCTV security cameras had ceased to work. Indeed, they appear to have stopped working all over the building. Then, for reasons unknown, he disappeared.
There is a caveat to all this. Much of the information about Mr Khashoggi’s disappearance has come from leaks from President Erdogan’s authoritarian regime, which has a strained relationship with Saudi Arabia thanks to Mr Erdogan’s closeness to Saudi’s enemies Qatar and Iran.
But the circumstantial evidence so far is compelling. More than that, Mr Khashoggi’s apparent murder is but one example – albeit an extreme one – of the House of Saud pursuing its dissidents on foreign soil. Since 2015 three exiled royal princes have ‘disappeared’, having spoken out against corruption and other abuses.
On February 1, 2016, in Paris the dissident Prince Sultan bin Turki and his 20-strong entourage boarded a jet owned by the House of Saud. They were expecting to fly to Cairo, home of the prince’s father, the Saudi king’s elder brother. Reservations had been booked for them at the five-star Kempinski hotel next to the Nile.
With hindsight, it was foolish for Prince Sultan to have boarded. Having criticised Saudi Arabia’s corruption and human rights abuses he had fallen out with powerful family members.
Prince Sultan was given money and assurances of safe conduct. He told a friend: ‘I am supposed to come to Cairo by royal aircraft. If you didn’t find me they have taken me to Riyadh. Try to do something.’
Strategist saysSo who will be the bad guys?
everyone
We should not even have diplomatic relations with a government like that, much less sell them $100B in weapons.
We should immediately expropriate all Saudi assets in the US and distribute them to the relatives of 9/11 victims.