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mell says
So what? They are not running around harassing others for a different political opinion. and engaging in mob violence. You know like the leftoids. It would be a great start if the left would stop smearing and mob rioting and instead just call the right rightoids or whatever else they feel like.
Here's a Dem 'leftoid' hating poster. Once you've gone so far as to dehumanize the other side with a derisive term, violence becomes much easier. Maybe you're not the type to go that far, but there are some Rs who will. Look into 'gooks' if you have any doubt.
Quigley, if you're in fact a moderate R, please reach out to a moderate D and start a conversation and try to build a bridge. The extremists on both sides are controlling the narrative, and the only counter is rational discussion between those who haven't embraced the hate.
What? That's purely your feels and interpretation. That's what's wrong with the left.
mell saysWhat? That's purely your feels and interpretation. That's what's wrong with the left.
Yup, all the leftoids are the same with their hatred. The fact that you call them leftoids doesn't mean you hate them equally with your own feels and interpretation, does it?
But They have become the minority to those violent and the ones that condone it.
IT's probably just a coincidence that this happens weeks before the elections.
Once you've gone so far as to dehumanize the other side with a derisive term, violence becomes much easier.
Your feels and interpretation are showing. Or do you have stats?
January 21, 2017: Addressing the crowd at the Women’s March, featured speaker Madonna says she’s thought “an awful lot about blowing up the White House.” Actress Ashley Judd compares Trump to Hitler and those who attended his inauguration the day before to Nazis.
June 14, 2017: James T. Hodgkinson, a 66-year-old Democratic activist from Illinois shoots up a baseball diamond where Republican members of Congress are practicing for the annual Congressional Baseball Game. Apparently intending to kill several GOP House members, including Louisiana Rep. Steve Scalise, who was grievously wounded, Hodgkinson had volunteered for Bernie Sanders’ 2016 presidential campaign, and belonged to a Facebook group called “Terminate the Republican Party.”
October 28, 2017: At a parade in Annandale, Va., Wilfred Michael Stark III, 49, is arrested after trying to block the van carrying Republican gubernatorial candidate Ed Gillespie. Although Stark identifies himself as a journalist, he was there on behalf of a website run by Democratic Party activist David Brock, which Brock purchased for the stated goal of electing Hillary Clinton president.
November 3, 2017: Kentucky Republican Rand Paul is tackled from behind without warning by next-door neighbor Rene Boucher, breaking six of the senator’s ribs. The assailant claims he lost his temper because of an ongoing dispute the two men had about yard trimmings, but he was known by other neighbors as a partisan Democrat who attacked Republicans on social media. “May Robert Mueller fry Trump’s gonads,” he once posted.
March 15, 2018. Wilfred “Mike” Stark is arrested again, this time by U.S. Capitol Police on a charge of simple assault for shoving Department of Interior spokeswoman Heather Swift to the ground.
May 18, 2018: A man later identified as Clifton Ward phones Republican Rep. Diane Black, leaving a voice mail that police consider a death threat. He does it again on June 12 and is subsequently indicted on felony charges.
June 23, 2018: Speaking after White House press secretary Sarah Sanders and her family were refused service in a Virginia restaurant and senior administration aides Stephen Miller and Kirstjen Nielsen were hounded at restaurants, Rep. Maxine Waters calls for Democrats to “create a crowd” whenever they see a Trump official in public “to tell them they’re not welcome anymore, anywhere.” Apparently, she means even their own homes, which is where Nielson was also accosted. “No peace” for Republicans, Waters says. “No sleep!”
July 2, 2018: The Republican Party headquarters in Lincoln, Neb., is vandalized. A brick was thrown through a window. “Abolish ICE” was spray-painted on the sidewalk.
July 6, 2018. Martin Astrof, 75, drives to the Long Island campaign headquarters of Republican Rep. Lee Zeldin, confronts a campaign worker, threatens to kill Zeldin and Trump, then nearly runs over the aide in his car. Astrof is arrested on suspicion of endangerment and making terroristic threats.
July 7, 2018: A Democratic Socialist spots Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell eating lunch at a restaurant in his hometown of Louisville and summons a flash mob on social media. Leftist demonstrators swarm him as he leaves, shouting ominously, “We know where you live!”
September 6, 2018: A Republican Party office in Laramie, Wyo., is torched two days after local college Republicans are added as tenants. A window bearing a “Make America Great Again” sign was broken. Authorities say the fire appeared to be arson.
September 9, 2018 (New York): Asked about a “Trump 2020” banner unfurled during a curtain call for the Broadway musical “Frozen,” 94-year-old actress Carole Cook, replies, “My answer to that is, where is John Wilkes Booth when you need him?” It’s a stark reference for a thespian, considering that Abraham Lincoln’s assassin struck during a theatrical performance. Yet Cook, accompanied by her husband Tom Troupe, is apparently being literal. When asked, “So we need to kill President Trump?” she replies, “Why not?” Her husband adds: “Someone should.”
September 9, 2018 (California): At the Castro Valley Fall Festival attended by Republican congressional candidate Rudy Peters, 35-year-old Farzad Fazeli makes disparaging remarks about Trump and Republicans before pulling a switchblade on Peters. Fazeli has trouble opening the knife, and ends up grappling with Peters before running off. He’s arrested soon thereafter.
September 20, 2018: Democratic Rep. Eric Swalwell, the incumbent Peters is challenging, mocks Maine Republican Sen. Susan Collins over threats she’s receiving during the Brett Kavanaugh nomination fight. In one voice mail, a male caller threatens to rape a young female staffer in Collins’ Senate office if her boss votes for Kavanaugh. Swalwell’s response? “Boo hoo hoo,” he writes sarcastically in a since-deleted Tweet.
October 7, 2018: Eric Holder, U.S. attorney general under President Obama, contradicts Michelle Obama’s famous dictum about remaining classy. “Michelle always says, ‘When they go low, we go high.’ No, when they go low, we kick ’em!” Holder says. “That’s what the new Democratic Party is about.”
October 9, 2018: Hillary Clinton adds that Democrats “cannot be civil with the Republican Party” until they take back Congress. “That's when civility can start again,” she says.
October 10, 2018: William Davis, spokesman for Minnesota’s state Democratic party, writes on Facebook that the day after Election Day, Republicans should be brought “to the guillotines.” Although Davis is suspended for a week without pay for this joke, by the time the week is up, two Minnesota Republicans are physically assaulted while campaigning. State Rep. Sarah Anderson is punched in the arm by a man who was destroying GOP yard signs and who screams at her, “Who don’t you go kill yourself?” Republican legislative candidate Shane Mekeland is sucker-punched in the face while talking to voters.
October 16, 2018. Mike Stark is arrested for a third time and jailed in Las Vegas on a charge of battery after witnesses told police he grabbed Kristin Davison, campaign manager for Republican gubernatorial candidate Adam Laxalt. Stark is on the payroll of American Bridge 21st Century, a political action committee run by David Brock and funded in part by liberal billionaire George Soros. Witnesses reported that Stark told them, “I do this for a living.”
You're missing the point. It's not that the left isn't heading down a dark path. It's that the right is following the same path. The problem is that both parties are looking at the failures of the other side with no introspection of their own. The right looks at the left and assumes that the worst actors are representative (feels and impressions) and the left is doing the same of course. How do you think the left is mobilizing people to the actions above? It's portraying the right as despicable. You're doing the same to the left. The violence isn't far behind.
Ah never mind. The left is evil. Burn them!
IT's probably just a coincidence that this happens weeks before the elections.
Claiming that both sides do it is ignoring the facts. That's not feels the numbers are clear. Once the left returns to the table of civilized discussion we may be able to build bridges again.
I mean, think forward. How do you see this playing out? Do you really believe that the left is suddenly return to the table on the right's terms, when you and most others on the right call them leftoids and consider them all batshit crazy?
mell saysClaiming that both sides do it is ignoring the facts. That's not feels the numbers are clear. Once the left returns to the table of civilized discussion we may be able to build bridges again.
If you check my posts, you'll see no claims that the right are currently being violent, although I'm sure there are some examples out there. The point is that the potential is growing as both sides refuse to talk to each other.
I mean, think forward. How do you see this playing out? Do you really believe that the left is suddenly return to the table on the right's terms, when you and most others on the right call them leftoids and consider them all batshit crazy? And what's the chances the right will extend the olive branch? You yourself are going to sit back and wait for the left to make the first move.
Right now it seems the only path is escalation.
Here’s how I think it will go.
That's fine, many on the right could get on board with this, however some of the current policies or demands or slogans or whatever you call them need to be retired by the left as a precondition.
Now that the democrats are sending bombs to themselves... they’ve reached a whole different level of desperation. #MAGABomber
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Unprecedented disrespect for the political process. Must be punished.
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