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Patrick says

Maybe instead of Democrat vs Republican, what we really need is a Family Party.

That is, a party whose primary goal is the promotion and support of hetero couples who want to have two or more biological children of their own. This is necessary to continue our civilization into the next generation.

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aka the past 99.9999% of human history.

Patrick says

That is, a party whose primary goal is the promotion and support of hetero couples

You realize, don't you, that all the fuss of identity politics arises from and is perpetuated by those trying to maintain a status quo supportive of hetero couples to the exclusion of the various identity politic blocs?

A party that is truly inclusive, that unites people as Americans rather than finds categories to divide them, is a possible and winning strategy. It's being engineered against because voters uniting into a large bloc seriously threatens the status quo.

Mentally ill should not be near children

Goran_K says

I used to volunteer at the Orange County Foster program in Orange CA. I bought 100 guitars to help start a music program there. These kids just love people paying attention to them. Love shooting hoops, playing board games.

Dude, mad respect!
I should check out that program. Heart growing bigger for foster kids. My dad was an orphan who had to grow up in the system. Might be time to rewrite some history.

It’s stupid to be inclusive toward shit that makes society fail. There are very good reasons why most of the world does not support faggots and that lgbt trash. Including everything is not consequenceless.

Automan Empire says

Patrick says

That is, a party whose primary goal is the promotion and support of hetero couples

You realize, don't you, that all the fuss of identity politics arises from and is perpetuated by those trying to maintain a status quo supportive of hetero couples to the exclusion of the various identity politic blocs?

A party that is truly inclusive, that unites people as Americans rather than finds categories to divide them, is a possible and winning strategy. It's being engineered against because voters uniting into a large bloc seriously threatens the status quo.

BayArea says

Perhaps because it calls into question whether this would have happened if the kids were biologically linked.

Which has to do what exactly with a decision to commit murder/suicide ? Other than the rehash of gays are more prone to suicide which shows up later in the thread

Goran_K says

Leftism is a mental disorder.

Bullshit.

What happened to the mental disorder defense for white male mass shooters ? That is the standard get out of jail card for home grown terrorists who are never called terrorists.

Goran_K says

aka the past 99.9999% of human history.

More bullshit - gays have been around as long as humanity and exist in the animal kingdom as well

Goran_K says

What we really need to discuss why the LGBT suucide rate is literally 3x higher than the heterosexual rates across all age groups.

Start a new thread - this was a click bait thread from a click bait article that normally would not have gotten as much attention anywhere if the couple were not two gay women.

Goran_K says

Doesn’t seem so to me, seems like LGBT acceptance has risen in many cities if not politically taken over in major metro areas (NYC, SF, LA, Seattle, etc).

It's just like racism - what you see is not reality but is sound nice

antiforum

And as long as society frowned upon it, it kept their bullshit down. Embracing mental disorders is not healthy.

Kakistocracy says

Goran_K says

aka the past 99.9999% of human history.

More bullshit - gays have been around as long as humanity and exist in the animal kingdom as well

Goran_K says

These people

Who the fuck are "these people" - seriously ? "These people"

Goran_K says

One (or both of them) was going through a depression as many of these types go through since their lifestyle is so unnatural to tens of thousands of years of human evolution. So they drank themselves stupid drunk to get the courage to end it all and plunged their SJW diversity short bus off a cliff murdering 6 children in the process.

What is it called when a straight couple or person does it ? We have had a rash of this shit in the Midwest in the last few months - none of them
gay.

Patrick says

That is, a party whose primary goal is the promotion and support of hetero couples who want to have two or more biological children of their own. This is necessary to continue our civilization into the next generation.

They have that - the country is called China

Goran_K says

Of the 33 past mass shootings, 32 were perpetrated by kids whose dads were never present in their lives.

Is that the latest excuse to not call home grown terrorists terrorists ?

Goran_K says

Was the country more against LGBT people 20 years ago compared to today?

Yes, same with all minorities and it is not much better.

It’s called the world mr Russianbot.
World hates fags, because they destroy society. Society must always not allow homosexuality if it wants to survive.


Kakistocracy says

Patrick says

That is, a party whose primary goal is the promotion and support of hetero couples who want to have two or more biological children of their own. This is necessary to continue our civilization into the next generation.

They have that - the country is called China

Goran_K says

Two lesbian democrat SJWs suicidng a family of 8 does NOT surprise me.

Neither does a white trash red neck family wound up on crack and meth surprise me, kill them selves, the kids maybe a neighbor or two.

The same type going out and taking out a dozen or so people just because - like the Pittsburgh shooter, forget the optics, I'm going in.

Goran_K says

Let’s call it what it is

Yes, a click bait story and now let's talk about the real grisly perpetrated primarily by old white guys - it's called war.

@Patrick - question for you.

If God loves all of his creatures and creations unconditionally, why is there so much hate and bigotry on display in this thread from his followers and believers against something God created?

Spare me the study about the twins.

How can God love all of his creations but not his followers ?

Patrick says

I doubt that there is a God who loves all of this creatures

So a God would make some creations just so other creations have something to fuck with ?

Patrick says

Secondly, I don't believe that homosexuals are something either God or nature "created". It's just a bad choice in life, nothing more.

Explain gay behavior in nature among other animals.

Patrick says

Third, I just don't see the "hate and bigotry" you talk about in this thread.

Goran's comments are pure as snow I guess. I see the bigotry and hate against gays, blacks, etc. and not just from him

Since you are not a believer - perhaps someone else can show me exactly where in the bible it specially states in no uncertain words that God hates fags, or for that matter much of anything since even people who do not obey the commandments are open to redemption including those who commit murder.

Per the anonymous contributor the state failed the children much as they do on a repeated basis month in month out in any given state where the foster care system comes into play. Truly not one of the country's great examples for the rest of the world.

Once more this would not have gotten the time of day like most of the failures in the foster care system that results in the death of child or more than one, but the article made it seem the only reason this event happened was because the women were gay which is a total crock of bullshit.

Why did the story need to highlight the lesbian aspect of the couple instead of just saying a couple ?

Sensationalism and click bait, and it worked too, didn't it ?

Team Trump came out in force with the customary and usual commentary.

Fact was, nobody would say anything to the couple about glaring mental illness because they were pursuing protocols of PC correctness that gave them absolution from criticism or critical examination of their mental state or practices. Standards of mental health were being re-written and re-characterized just for them.

It's the moral and critical absolutions from observed insane behavior on the basis of PC correctness that is the condition of Liberal thought. "Oh, let's give them every consideration because they are pursuing the non-reality based PC dream." "Oh, this must be admirable altruism because gay and black and all, and should be encouraged as an exemplar."

Gold stars, absolution, hall passes, fantasy sociological scenarios, etc. etc. Gay or black are besides the point, except they are the common exonerating and exempt conditions that seem to crop up.

Obviously, reality kept defeating the delusion until the only way to preserve the delusion was the Jim Jones default.

Ceffer says

Standards of mental health were being re-written and re-characterized just for them.

They must be in overtime writing all those new standards in every state of the country then since all of the cases here in fly over country have been straight couples, black, white - but not gay and the race thing is split about 50-50 .

The bottom line is the social welfare system (in this case Child Protective Services) is a public and national disgrace but no one wants to talk about it unless it briefly shows up in the news, and God forbid that the system would get more resources - fuck that.

Patrick says

There are actually no cases of innate and permanent and exclusive homosexuality in nature

Prove it..

Kakistocracy says

Goran_K says

Leftism is a mental disorder.

Bullshit.

What happened to the mental disorder defense for white male mass shooters ? That is the standard get out of jail card for home grown terrorists who are never called terrorists.

White male mass shooters are extremely rare compared to your run of the mill black inner city shooter. Extremely rare.

Patrick says

Leviticus 20:13

If a man lies with a man as with a woman, they have both committed an abomination. They must surely be put to death; their blood is upon them.

But that's Old Testament law, technically binding only on Jews, the same way that the prohibition on pork is only for Jews. The Christian position on homosexuality is more ambiguous, given that Jesus claimed to supercede the old law with the sole commandment to "love your neighbor as yourself."

And of course Islam demands death for gays, a fact almost never mentioned in the liberal press in spite of routine murders of gays in Islamic countries.

(BTW, there is no mention of lesbianism in the bible, old or new testaments. It just was not a concept back then.)

That is not what I asked - I asked specially where it states in on uncertain terms God "hates" one group, in this case gays. That is a hand me down interpretation and one has to remember when the King James version became the official bible after tossing out numerous books that did not sit well with the church.

Kakistocracy says

Goran_K says

This is exactly what Democrats create with their “Great society” welfare state politics.

I thought FDR did all this, the country never knew there were black people in the United States before Eleanor Roosevelt discovered them - heard that from Archie Bunker himself and I think Archie is alive and well on the forum

FDR was the catalyst, LBJ cemented black poverty for generations.

Patrick says

And of course Islam demands death for gays, a fact almost never mentioned in the liberal press in spite of routine murders of gays in Islamic countries.

Yes - it does get plenty of publicity, most recently again with the Sultan of Brunei and anyone that takes the time to read just a wee bit.

Patrick says

Sure, dogs will fuck your leg, for example.

Dogs try to hump legs for a number of different reasons, most of them non-sexual.

Kakistocracy says

Dogs try to hump legs for a number of different reasons, most of them non-sexual.

Non-sexual humping?

C'mon.

Check out the Kate Millett story. She was a very abusive person. From her own sister to her academic groupies. Dworkin was similar.

Also interesting, FDR refused welfare programs for single mothers on grounds they would abandon their husbands and replace them with government. I will hunt down the quote.

Patrick says

Doesn't it seem like God's commandment to kill gays is perhaps an indication of hate?

Is that a direct commandment, there were 10 handed down, that wasn't one of them. Sounds like the word of man to me just like the you have to get dressed up to go to church to show proper respect bullshit.

Patrick says

Non-sexual humping?

C'mon.

Female dogs hump legs just the same as males.

They do it to establish dominance, establish ownership, out of a habit that was not corrected, to get attention and sometimes horny.

All my shepherds did it - the females constantly mounting the males to fight for dominance and with humans it can be dominant behavior or to show that you "belong" to them in addition to play and horny.

My first female cocker spaniel was notorious for the bullshit to show who is in control etc. and the one I have now is not much better since they are ridiculously territorial and want to claim everything as theirs.

They were both spayed before 9 months.

MisterLearnToCode says

Check out the Kate Millett story. She was a very abusive person. From her own sister to her academic groupies. Dworkin was similar.

And the point is ?

You think the people I am talking about in fly over country doing this bullshit are normal ?

Goran_K says

White male mass shooters are extremely rare compared to your run of the mill black inner city shooter. Extremely rare.

This. It's part of the great Leftist narrative to ignore the vast majority of mass shootings in urban, often gun free areas. While concentrating on a handful of white or hispamic mentally ill kids who because of 60s antipsychiatry leftists like Millett and Liang cannot be reasonably forcibly hospitalized.

Patrick says

I believe you were the one who asserted asserted that there are such animals:

I am trying to find an unbiased scientific commentary that won't get torn to shreds by the Jebus crowd

MisterLearnToCode says

While concentrating on a handful of white or hispamic mentally ill kids who because of 60s antipsychiatry leftists like Millett and Liang cannot be reasonably forcibly hospitalized.

Poor little things - mentally ill otherwise not a threat until it becomes one.