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Make Global Warming A Serious Part Of Your Future Planning


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2019 Jul 26, 3:34am   3,402 views  57 comments

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#globalwarmingMake Global Warming A Serious Part Of Your Future Planning
I believe in global warming after reading a mass of data and studying a lot of happenings. What is not clear in my mind is if global warming is part of a natural cycle such as those when we have an ice age or it is caused by fossil fuels and human activities. My son is a scientist and I have one other dear woman scientist friend also from Brasil who would know this better than me.
Regardless of how we got here, we all must learn to deal with it and make it a part of our planning for the future. If you live near Miami, you have already seen its affects with more sea water flooding requiring an expenditure of some $350 million dollars for pumps to try to keep the sea water out. Here in California we had massive droughts that lasted for several years. We are out of this cycle now. But we have had destructive wildfires that have cost tens of billions of dollars and hundreds of live. Other areas have suffered massive flooding. Western Europe right now is having the worst heat wave in a long time.
I always believe that people can lie or exaggerate things, but true numbers always show what is happening. The property and casualty companies worldwide have seen the worst payouts ever to reimburse clients for their losses due to hurricanes, fires, floods, etc. The last published figure was $168 billion dollars for a previous year. If you have a homeowner’s insurance policy, you have noticed that your insurance carrier has become very tough at renewal time. Even a small claim or potential small claim can lead to the cancellation of your insurance policy. In our case, a little 17- pound dog bit a postman. It was a one-fang small bite drawing no blood. Still we had to take the dog off our policy or else. I have been with this insurance company since 1971. In the past, they were very kind and generous to a fault with claims.
Here are some of the things you must consider when deciding where to live, work, etc. as follows:
1) Are rising sea waters going to flood my area?
2) Will increased rain falls or unusual storms cause massive flooding in my area? (If you’re in the US and are required to have flood insurance, good luck if you must file a claim. CBS 60 Minutes aired a special on the Federal health insurance program. People had to fight very hard to get a claim approved. They ended up getting paid far less than the actual loss.)
3) Are you in an area prone to wildfires? As temperatures rise and droughts become worse, you face a heightened risk of wildfires that could take all you own and even your life. My sister is the survivor of a wildfire that burned down her house. We lost 100 years of family photos and records when her house burned down.
4) If you live in a cold climate, you might take comfort in the fact that your area will get warmer. It could very well get warmer in the summer but colder in winter.

There is another serious dimension to this problem. Elena and I live in what I describe as “a sweet spot.” We are in an area near the Pacific Ocean. In our case we are over a half mile from the ocean and sit some 53 feet above sea level. We would not feel the affects of sea level rise like people near the water. Our area has not had a tsunami since the 1700’s. If a tsunami hit, we would not feel the worst affects. Fog covers our area and keeps the vegetation moist. The probability of a wildfire is low. We have a good water supply that rode the last drought with no problems except some minor water rationing. Our house sits on hard rock and is solidly bolted down. It would ride an earthquake well.

Here is where it gets uglier. Let us assume that you are lucky enough or smart enough to find “a sweet spot” like ours; you will not, as the saying goes, goes “live happily ever after.” You will not, as the old saying goes, “Be able to fiddle while Rome burns.” Those people not as fortunate as you will find themselves in flooded or burned out areas. Agricultural production will fall. This means food shortages. In the past decade Europe has suffered a huge inflow of refugees. If you are in the US, you only have to look to our border with Mexico to see all the people trying to seek asylum here. If you are in South America, you know all about refugees from Venezuela. You are going to have tens of millions of refugees trying to get into “your sweet spot.”

This means that in picking a place to live, you need to find a remote place that is hard to get to. Australia and New Zealand come to mind. Anyone seeking to go there must find a ship, a boat or an aircraft to take them there. I have found a wonderful place in Patagonia with a massive lake, reasonable temperatures, no forests to burn and no seismic problems. I shall leave this spot a secret as I do not want too many people to know about it.

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37   Automan Empire   2019 Aug 1, 12:45pm  

HonkpilledMaster says
But the basic premise on the Nuke Winter cult was "We do not want Nuclear Winter, so we best give in to Soviet Demands."
HonkpilledMaster says

This is a great observation, Thanks.


It's a great straw observation that fits your preconceived notions by completely misrepresenting an opposing position. The actual sentiment was, "We do not want nuclear winter or any other of the consequences of global nuclear war, so we humans should end the nuclear arms race."
38   HeadSet   2019 Aug 1, 12:52pm  

"We do not want nuclear winter or any other of the consequences of global nuclear war, so we humans should end the nuclear arms race."

No, the mantra was to disarm the West unilaterally.
39   Automan Empire   2019 Aug 1, 1:03pm  

HeadSet says
No, the mantra was to disarm the West unilaterally.


Source? I was not only alive during the 80s, but personally engaged with nuclear disarmament movements, so quit your bullshit.
40   HeadSet   2019 Aug 1, 1:10pm  

I was not only alive during the 80s, but personally engaged with nuclear disarmament movements, so quit your bullshit.

I was around then as well, and while not "engaged," had plenty of interactions with Nuke Winter proponents. So, how much pressure did your "engaged" groups put on the Soviets to disarm?
41   zzyzzx   2019 Aug 1, 1:13pm  

HeadSet says
Much of the Northeast and the mid-Atlantic I-95 corridor can expect to have temperatures 3 to 3.5 degrees above normal this September. Also, for much of the Northwest above-normal warmth will continue deeper into fall,

Let's see if that actually happens.


I've already booked rooms in Atlantic City in September.
42   Automan Empire   2019 Aug 1, 1:46pm  

HeadSet says

I was around then as well, and while not "engaged," had plenty of interactions with Nuke Winter proponents. So, how much pressure did your "engaged" groups put on the Soviets to disarm?

Sounds like you cherry picked a small nonrepresentative sample. Consider the positions of prominent figures and leaders in the nuclear disarmament movement like Carl Sagan.

Edward Teller and other pro-nuke, pro-SDI initiatives attacked these scientists with propaganda and techniques still used today by the anti-AGW faction.

The groups were acutely aware that directly addressing even their OWN leaders was ineffectual, much less trying to influence the "enemy" leadership directly. One effective tactic was "sister city" programs to show common citizens of both sides their commonalities and mutual goals and painting the leadership of both sides as dangerously irrational.

This Sting video does a better job of characterizing the anti-nuke movement of the 80s than your flippant depiction above.
www.youtube.com/embed/wHylQRVN2Qs
43   zzyzzx   2019 Aug 1, 1:53pm  

If you use enough suntan lotion, bug bites aren't a problem. Insects hate suntan lotion!
44   RWSGFY   2019 Aug 1, 1:57pm  

HeadSet says
how much pressure did your "engaged" groups put on the Soviets to disarm?


Most of the pressure was put on US Govt to not proceed with deployment of Pershing-2 missiles in Europe: the move which ultimately pressured the Soviets to start the real disarmament.
45   HeadSet   2019 Aug 1, 2:12pm  

Most of the pressure was put on US Govt to not proceed with deployment of Pershing-2 missiles in Europe: the move which ultimately pressured the Soviets to start the real disarmament.

Yes, along with lots of anti "Star Wars" propaganda.
46   HeadSet   2019 Aug 1, 2:16pm  

This Sting video does a better job of characterizing the anti-nuke movement of the 80s than your flippant depiction above.

I heard that song back in the day, and thought it was lame then. Think there was airplay in the Soviet Union of songs describing about how the Soviets should disarm, since after all, the Americans love their children and do not want a Nuke Winter?
47   Bd6r   2019 Aug 1, 2:17pm  

Automan Empire says
One effective tactic was "sister city" programs to show common citizens of both sides their commonalities and mutual goals and painting the leadership of both sides as dangerously irrational.

I used to live in a city in former USSR which had several "sister cities" in West. There was not a peep about nuclear disarmament of Soviet side when the sister city representatives were shown on Soviet TV.
48   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 Aug 1, 2:25pm  

Automan Empire says
This Sting video does a better job of characterizing the anti-nuke movement of the 80s than your flippant depiction above.


"The Soviet Union will be around forever, we have to get along. Let's not put pressure on the USSR" - the Left, mid 1980s.

1989, baby.
49   Ceffer   2019 Aug 1, 2:35pm  

Global Warming? Is this a good excuse to masturbate a lot and eat Fritos all day in bed? I'm all for it.
50   Automan Empire   2019 Aug 1, 3:58pm  

HonkpilledMaster says
- the Left,


An unsupported and unbounded claim. Thank you for your nonparticipation in the discussion.
51   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 Aug 5, 1:38pm  

Automan Empire says
An unsupported and unbounded claim. Thank you for your nonparticipation in the discussion.


Let's not reality be denied.

The ONE MILLION person march in NYC, 1982, for specifically to demand American nuclear disarmament and oppose Reagan's nuclear weapon modernization, organized by Labor Unions and Peace Groups:
https://web.archive.org/web/20080516080117/http://www.icanw.org/1982

Article about the Nuclear Disarmament Movement in the Nation, praising it:
https://www.thenation.com/article/spirit-june-12/

1987 PBS Interview with Dr. Randall Forsberg (a Swedish Socialist Woman), one of the organizers.
http://openvault.wgbh.org/catalog/V_F6CC542AF94B434FBC7E1DBE45F07024

The National Council of (Leftist) Churches...

Ralph Nader...

Greenpeace...

The Day After movie...

99 Luftballoons - Nina
Planet Earth - Duran Duran
Two Tribes - Frankie Goes to Hollywood
Put Down That Weapon - Midnight Oil
The Future's So Bright - Timbuk2
Every other Song by R.E.M in the 1980s.

C'mon.
52   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 Aug 5, 1:48pm  

www.youtube.com/embed/c_Jjkr0oUgA
(above from 1975, actually)

Conchita some indigenous schmuck


The Thomas', longest running "Peace Protest" (ie West surrender unconditionally to enemies) since 1984.


54   Onvacation   2019 Aug 5, 3:20pm  

zzyzzx says
If you use enough suntan lotion, bug bites aren't a problem. Insects hate suntan lotion!

Best solution to global warming on this thread!
55   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 Aug 5, 4:16pm  

So Green! Electric Vehicle Charging station is a diesel engine.

56   RWSGFY   2019 Aug 5, 4:40pm  

HonkpilledMaster says
The Thomas', longest running "Peace Protest" (ie West surrender unconditionally to enemies) since 1984.


This fuck is my personal favorite of them all: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Hyder
57   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 Aug 5, 10:59pm  

Thanks for that Oil Burse!

It's amazing how the Left conveniently forgets it's own history.

I remember as a kid being lectured too about the almost certain indefinite longevity of the USSR. I also wanna say that Nic Hentoff? of the NY Times would repeatedly feature "We gotta get along with the Soviets. Reagan, don't pick on Gorbachev!" throughout the 80s.

The 90s were a good time because the Left was so utterly disheartened; but 9/11 gave them rebirth via dusting off all that 1960s "Anti-Colonialist" ideology from the Cold War as "Muh Poor Muslims"

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