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Solving the bubble problem for good


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2007 Jan 31, 1:53pm   9,300 views  45 comments

by Peter P   ➕follow (2)   💰tip   ignore  

How do we do that? Will one of these work?

* Do nothing
* Make some land
* Outlaw NIMBYism
* Repeal Prop 13
* Build high-rise condos
* Chase away population
* Require a minimum of 80% BMR units
* Eliminate the BMR program
* Convert asteroids to home'roids
* ...

Any other creative solutions?

#bubbles

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20   DinOR   2007 Feb 1, 3:27am  

Sriram G,

"no more quasi-government organization to promote "home buying"

That rates the "big bucks"!

21   Peter P   2007 Feb 1, 3:34am  

There’s an economic theory that credit doesn’t create asset bubbles but that it’s the other way around. Once the asset inflates, the credit is suddenly invented out of thin air.

Credit inflates asset prices, which create more credit.

Reflexivity.

22   DinOR   2007 Feb 1, 3:37am  

SFWoman,

If you think that annoys you, try being a 5' 9" and "settling" male. I just love when you're being escorted by the receptionist (with heels so high she's struggling to hold herself upright) into the conference room for your client meeting!

Crissakes lady, if "I" had 5" "lifts" we could almost be eye to eye!

23   Joe Schmoe   2007 Feb 1, 3:59am  

I don't find her attractive at all. That big jaw with all those teeth always make me think of a...dentata. Scary. Also, her skin has a really fake sheen. It is probably natural but I do not care for it. And her body? Eh. Lots of women look just as good.

Also, the whole bi-coastal marriage thing really turned me off. It's like, how self-absorbed can you be? And then she goes and gets knocked up by some rich heir several years her junior. Very disturbing to see Gen-X'ers acting like Boomers.

24   DinOR   2007 Feb 1, 4:52am  

"Somebody's got issues...." LOL!

I think GC might have gotten on the wrong tangent there. I was speaking from a "sales perspective"!?!

You're being introduced to a prospective client for the first time and their first impression is, "Crissakes, I hope he's a genius b/c he's too old to be a "wizz kid" and "Kelli" our receptionist could probably take him!" When you do a fair amount of "cold walking" I guess you get used to it. My point (if there is one) is that while 5' 9" (formerly 5' 10 1/2") is avg. to short for males it is STILL well above avg. height for females! Why is it I'm always the shortest person shaking hands in the lobby? Hmm?

25   Peter P   2007 Feb 1, 4:54am  

Napoleon was short. Yet he has a lot of accomplishments, including the multi-layered dessert named after him.

26   DinOR   2007 Feb 1, 4:54am  

Joe Schmoe,

Hey Joe!

Disturbing indeed. The more I hear the less I like.

27   MtViewRenter   2007 Feb 1, 5:03am  

DinOR,

Why don't you wear heels too, like these: Linky

28   DinOR   2007 Feb 1, 5:13am  

MtViewRenter,

O.K now that was good! LOL!

Yeah, I'm here to discuss your moving your 401K and pay no mind to my Rui Leonardes "heels for men". Yeah that'd go over like a turd in a punchbowl! I thought you were going to show those old ads like in the back of Popular Mechanics that are "guaranteed to add a full 2 inches to your height" (but look like something your HS janitor wore). Uh no thanks.

29   Peter P   2007 Feb 1, 5:17am  

I do have a dirty mind.

Human mind is intrinsically dirty. Don't be too hard on yourself.

30   DinOR   2007 Feb 1, 5:43am  

GC,

Again that's not exactly what I meant either. Meetings of this sort aren't an everyday occurence. In fact they're altogether too rare and there's a lot riding on them.

When you're fortunate to land one, you've straightened your tie, checked your breath by exhaling into your hand (not sure why, it doesn't work) and re-checked your briefcase so "that" is about the LAST thing you're thinking about! If a gal truly is "towering" (chances are she'll wear loafers to play it down) it's just when if it weren't for the "prosthetics" she'd be 2" shorter.... let's just say it's a distraction you can't afford right now!

31   DinOR   2007 Feb 1, 6:23am  

SP,

That's easy! Roseanne Barr NAKED!

32   FormerAptBroker   2007 Feb 1, 6:34am  

DinOR Says:

> try being a 5′ 9″ and “settling” male. I just love when
> you’re being escorted by the receptionist (with heels
> so high she’s struggling to hold herself upright) into
> the conference room for your client meeting!
> Crissakes lady, if “I” had 5″ “lifts” we could almost
> be eye to eye!

If you get some cowboy boots you will be pushing 6’ tall… I have not been riding horses in a long time and this summer before I went to a friend’s family ranch south of Basalt, CO I went to my parent’s house to get my old cowboy boots and I forgot how tall I feel wearing them when I am pushing 6’ 5”…

33   DinOR   2007 Feb 1, 6:54am  

FAB,

I actually know a few reps that do exactly that! Don't they clank too much on terrazo and marble though? That and I'm sure no cowboy.

34   astrid   2007 Feb 1, 7:26am  

GC,

We're going through a real golden age in good quality comedies. A lot of the women are even pretty real looking. Check out the cast of Friday Night Lights or the Office. They're pretty normal looking.

35   Different Sean   2007 Feb 1, 8:18am  

There's a theory that species tend to get larger when they're successful overall... e.g. look at the dinosaurs... 5'9" is meant to be 'exactly average height' for adult males, and 5'6" for women... although I think average height of college graduates is higher, etc...

36   GammaRaze   2007 Feb 1, 8:35am  

Different Sean, does the theory also say that when a species becomes successful, it stands on two legs?

Holds true for us and dinosaurs.

37   Different Sean   2007 Feb 1, 9:05am  

Different Sean, does the theory also say that when a species becomes successful, it stands on two legs?

Note that 'success' is only determined by immediate success in the current environment, whether due to size, speed, armour, choice of food sources, etc. e.g. much of the exotic megafauna of the cenozoic era were wiped out by relatively scrawny homo sapiens working in teams with pointy artificial spears, clubs and sharpened rocks, as they migrated around the world.

they've noted people have gotten significantly bigger based on measurements of medieval popns (skeletons? research), for instance...

However, there's only a loose correlation between bipedalism/standing on hind legs and success, as there are plenty of successful species who don't do that too often or routinely. However, tracking the evolution of the australopithecenes suggests that chimps who could walk more upright east of the Kenyan Rift were more successful in the long run, which then naturally selected for bipedalism -- brain growth seems to have followed upright walking and more successful hunting with extra energy obtained from a higher meat diet, as a. afarensis seems to have had an almost chimp sized 400 cc brain. Overall dexterity, agility and, yes, opposable thumbs, seem to have made all the difference though, making h. sapiens an evolutionarily generalised animal rather than a specialised one.

Further, there were 2-legged and 4-legged dinosaurs, so no, I don't think there is such a theory. The modern descendants of the dinosaurs appear to be birds, which lack manual dexterity, but are 'successful' overall nonetheless, and continue to hop or walk on two legs.

38   Different Sean   2007 Feb 1, 9:09am  

But did you know dinosaurs avidly traded real estate 'millions of years' ago, and there is evidence they had even set up a Housing Futures exchange... it's true... and the Flintstones learnt it from the dinosaurs...

39   HeadSet   2007 Feb 1, 9:18pm  

"There’s a theory that species tend to get larger when they’re successful overall…"

Aren't insects the most sucessful group? Been around since the dinosaurs and apparently will survive anything. No more 4 foot wingspan dragonflies though. Since present day dragonflies prey on mosquitos, can you imagine being the victim of the mosquito a 4 foot wingspan dragonfly would eat? Reminds me of what may happen to savers during a politically expediant FB bailout.

40   Peter P   2007 Feb 2, 12:55am  

With global warming, if the seas rise 7 to 23 inches, what % of land mass will we lose?

But what % of presently iced land mass will we be able to use? :)

Just trying to be optimistic.

41   Peter P   2007 Feb 2, 4:14am  

There could be a land boom in the Ice Belt.

Let's sell some ice condos. :)

42   Different Sean   2007 Feb 2, 5:52pm  

yeah, collectively insects are the most successful family or phylum or whatever, i guess. or maybe bacteria by sheer number ;) neither walk on hind legs... theory probably applies to megafauna... who cares...

43   Different Sean   2007 Feb 2, 8:22pm  

did you know man has lost the ability to make the 4th enzyme in the chain required to manufacture vitamin C within the human body from food? probably due to a negative random genetic mutation... seems to be an early primate mutation, requiring them to live on fruit sources...

44   Different Sean   2007 Feb 3, 8:34pm  

maybe not fully corrected for asians and latin americans ;) i feel like a giant when i go to the spanish club...

however, robert ardrey also argues for the power of 'sexual selection' in nature, where being tall may not be so attractive to the opposite sex -- perhaps in society which values slim women of average height will tend towards a shorter population also... and perhaps tall men are not so desirable...

further, some research on medieval skeletons suggests they were only 1-2 inches shorter at most, most likely due to lower nutrition, so medieval shortness is apparently something of an urban myth. it would normally take thousands of years to see some sort of effect, barring a sudden cataclysmic event...

in fact, reduced environmental pressure leads to less genetic change -- so if life is easy, as it is for h. sapiens, you are less likely to experience natural selection effects...

45   Jimbo   2007 Feb 4, 1:05am  

Are we trying to solve the "problem" of bubbles in housing, bubbles in general, or the real problem of a lack of affordable housing in the Bay Area?

They are tangential problems, I think. The bubble, if there is one (and I am one of those who really thinks that there is not) will go away on its own.

The lack of affordable housing points to something much more profound happening in our society and I think DS is right.

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