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freak80
2011 Sep 6, 3:53am
Lam,
I think those are fair points to make, but...
I don't think Truman invoked Christianity when deciding to use the atomic bomb.
As far as I know, Bush didn't invoke Christianity when deciding to invade Iraq and get rid of Saddam, either.
Technically, the USA is not a Christian nation, at least according to the original intent of the constitution.
ArtimusMaxtor
2011 Sep 6, 3:53am
No people that watch Fox news are not racist. People that watch Fox news love repition. They probably have watched the entire 5 seasons of Gilligans Island four hundered and seventy six times.
In addition people that watch Fox news like very loud volumes on their television sets. They also must like very loud and obnoxious people. Fox news is extremly loud. They shout on there a lot or talk in raised voices. Give me Mr. Rogers announcing the news any day. Then my dog does not think there are people in the house yelling at him. Fox news has the spin factor. However they should change that to it makes your head spin and your eyes roll back into your head.
leo707
2011 Sep 6, 4:25am
Technically, the USA is not a Christian nation, at least according to the original intent of the constitution.
Technically the USA is not a christian nation, according to the Treaty of Tripoli:
As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion,—as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen...
emphasis mine
The post above has been edited substantially to reflect more independence, be less racially biased, and be less clearly from the right. The original is at http://tartanmarine.blogspot.com/2009/02/robert.html
"I don't think gay people choose to be gay".
I strongly disagree with the statement. It is sin and they choose to sin.
Amazing most people on this post have no clue what Christianity is. The earth and all that is in it belongs to the Lord. The earth will be filled with the knowledge of the Lord. Praise God!
rooemoore
2011 Sep 6, 1:46pm
Amazing most people on this post have no clue what Christianity is. The earth and all that is in it belongs to the Lord. The earth will be filled with the knowledge of the Lord. Praise God!
typical christian homosexual
FortWayne
2011 Sep 6, 1:47pm
Mexicans are very racist. That country ha s two classes, white and mixed.ArtimusMaxtor says
Japanese hate the Phillipino slaves looks like a sex deal to me.
Mexicans don't hate their indigenous. That dosen't even make sense for them to hate themselves.
And well tribal warfare anyone I mean anyone that trys to disuade me we don't invade every couple of years somewhere on the planet. That trys to toss that misnomer and prize on any other country. Is trying too make people look stupid.
By the way Hindus hate Muslims? Question. Is that black Muslims or just plain ole' vanilla muslims.
leo707
2011 Sep 6, 2:14pm
The post above has been edited substantially to reflect more independence, be less racially biased, and be less clearly from the right. The original is at http://tartanmarine.blogspot.com/2009/02/robert.html
Oh, yeah the original has a very different tone.
leo707
2011 Sep 6, 2:16pm
"I don't think gay people choose to be gay".
I strongly disagree with the statement. It is sin and they choose to sin.
Amazing most people on this post have no clue what Christianity is. The earth and all that is in it belongs to the Lord. The earth will be filled with the knowledge of the Lord. Praise God!
And you choose to cherry pick.
marcus
2011 Sep 6, 3:29pm
Amazing most people on this post have no clue what Christianity is. The earth and all that is in it belongs to the Lord. The earth will be filled with the knowledge of the Lord. Praise God!
Yes, exactly. The words you choose to describe what you believe are what it's all about. Without the exact correct words, dude, you're going to hell.
Think of spirituality as sort of like a combination lock. Quoting the correct scripture is the only way to open that lock.
marcus
2011 Sep 6, 3:32pm
A high level buddist monk who meditates all day without words, can't hold a candle to someone who can quote the words, even if they aren't really thinking so much about the words or even if the meaning of the words seems infinitely limiting. The thing is, it's not even our place to necessarily understand the words. Just say the words, and have the experience, then you'll know.
elliemae
2011 Sep 6, 3:39pm
"I don't think gay people choose to be gay".
I strongly disagree with the statement. It is sin and they choose to sin.
Amazing most people on this post have no clue what Christianity is. The earth and all that is in it belongs to the Lord. The earth will be filled with the knowledge of the Lord. Praise God!
People can choose to be a bigot, a holier than thou, bible-thumping self-righteous bore who attributes everything to an omniscent God. They can choose to litter their conversations with claims that their beliefs are the only true ones and that only by accepting their word for it, you can be saved (although from what I'm not sure)...
But they can't choose to be gay.
terriDeaner
2011 Sep 6, 3:45pm
"I don't think gay people choose to be gay".
I strongly disagree with the statement. It is sin and they choose to sin.
Amazing most people on this post have no clue what Christianity is. The earth and all that is in it belongs to the Lord. The earth will be filled with the knowledge of the Lord. Praise God!
C'mon folks...ya'll should know better...
this thread is getting boring and stupid.
You bible thumpers know any good bible jokes?
ArtimusMaxtor
2011 Sep 6, 10:24pm
Yea. like mixed what drinks whats the mix there? So its those "white people" uhuh. Hey I've been there I thought for white people they were kind of funny looking. Hey thats just me. Try Mexico however I love it I had a great time. Nice people. I don't think they are torturing each other. Your believing everything you hear.
As for Jesus and this being a Christian nation. Jesus carried a Sword. He even said so. I believe that Jesus would be playing Call of Duty on his PC blowing away all of his enemies just for practice. Also Jesus did not like sex out of wedlock. Which some think is really swell. A good soldier does not go into battle thinking about sex. Jesus used some highly suspicous war phraseolgy in his writtings.
Jesus did not believe that single people should have sex. In anyway. He would be more than likely very, very shocked and upset about what he found on the internet. "Talk about raising the dead". Jesus would probably think to himself. "I could make a whip out of cords and drive them out" He might think to himself. But then again he would muse. "I really don't need any new followers".
Patrick
2011 Sep 7, 11:09am
Jesus did not like sex out of wedlock.
That was totally Paul (formerly Saul). Jesus didn't say a damn thing about sex.
In fact, most of Christianity should be renamed Paulism.
marcus
2011 Sep 7, 12:37pm
this thread is getting boring and stupid.
You bible thumpers know any good bible jokes?
I'm not a bible thumper, and I don't have a bible joke right now, but I am for some reason really fond of this cartoon.
Vicente
2011 Sep 7, 12:50pm
God is incomprehensible to mere mortals, the mere sight of him would drive you mad. Now, let me describe exactly what he's like and what he wants .....
marcus
2011 Sep 7, 12:51pm
Jesus did not believe that single people should have sex
And the cool thing is, therefore priest shouldn't and therefore they don't have the cost of raising kids or the question of what they leave to them financially. Beyond their austere living needs, all incoming moneys to the Church, go to the church (none to a family).
It would seem Jesus' beliefs about sex and the church's policies about priests having families were a match made in heaven.
But Jesus was like a rock star, and they drank wine in those days, and clearly women must have been throwing themselves at Jesus, and he was single, and I think if he was gong to be crucified, dad should have at least allowed him to have a few carnal pleasures first. How did he handle that. What would he do if he got aroused when Mary washed his feet ?
Please, I honestly mean no sacrilege But I don't get it. He took human form, wouldn't he have had human desires ? And are these basic human needs of affection and our hard wiring for mating really sinful?
"I don't think gay people choose to be gay".
Are we talking about happy people or homosexuals here?
I try to be gay. In fact I think its better to be gay than to be depressed.
Regarding homosexuality though I do believe that two men engaged in mutual masturbation, or even two women engaging in mutual masturbation is a natural perversion. An unmarried man and a women engaged in sexual intercourse is not unnatural however I believe that it to is wrong as a matter or ethics.
As to whether people "choose to be homosexual" - I tend to believe that some do but others may not choose their that to which they are attracted. Being a rather attractive man myself I imagine some men (and most women) might find me sexually attractive. But being sexually attracted to me does not on its own morally justify having sex with me.
I mean Im sorry folks there is only one of me to go around and unfortunately for you all I am married.
the freedom of the press of
China
Oh -by the way. As to Halls remarks, for what it is worth, Jim Rogers says that there is more freedom of the press in China than in Massachusetts.
FortWayne
2011 Sep 7, 2:00pm
I'm sick and tired of this welfare state personally. Why do I have to pay more than 1/3rd of my earnings to support all that waste and fraud and someones welfare.
Obama is a socialist nutcase and so are all his union and too big to fail bank goons.
Â¥
2011 Sep 7, 2:27pm
Why do I have to pay more than 1/3rd of my earnings to support all that waste and fraud and someones welfare.
LOL. Google Ron Paul!
Obama is a socialist nutcase
Again, I wish! FWIW, read some Bernie Sanders speeches. Now THAT'S a "socialist nutcase".
Of course, all the socialist countries -- Norway, Sweden, Finland, Denmark, Germany at least -- are doing much better than USA right now.
You really lack the awareness of the world to understand what is going down. Vote Ron Paul and be happy.
Obama continued the Bush policy of saving the banks to limit the dislocation a systemic failure would create. Like all conservatives these days, you seem to just want the system to blow up like at the end of Fight Club.
That's a good cinematic ending but I don't want to live that in reality.
I was asking for bible jokes and it looks like all i got was christian jokers
leo707
2011 Sep 7, 3:40pm
Now, let me describe exactly what he's like and what he wants .....
Pretty good at killing, but even better at fucking.
FortWayne
2011 Sep 8, 1:26am
Obama continued the Bush policy of saving the banks to limit the dislocation a systemic failure would create. Like all conservatives these days, you seem to just want the system to blow up like at the end of Fight Club.
I don't believe in bail outs. If we stop bailing out the elite, other businesses will grow to take their place. We don't need masters, who are too big to fail, and our entire life revolves around keeping them fat and happy.
We don't need masters, who are too big to fail, and our entire life revolves around keeping them fat and happy.
I agree. What they HAVE done is put a temporary patch on a profusely bleeding wound. It is not going to do anything but prolong the inevitable. It is not sustainable. Can someone please confirm the monthly interest alone on the US national debt? 30 Billion or thereabouts? COME ON.
Patrick
2011 Sep 8, 2:02am
We don't need masters, who are too big to fail, and our entire life revolves around keeping them fat and happy.
Sound like you agree with Warren Buffett that America coddles the ultra-rich.
But then you'd be straying dangerously close to Democrat territory...
Patrick
2011 Sep 8, 2:23am
Democrats will at least talk about raising the unfairly low capital gains and dividend taxes on very rich people.
Republicans may not even speak such heresy!
Any Republican who even hints that perhaps the billionaires might not be paying their fair share of taxes would be instantly tarred and feathered, expelled from the party, and branded a SOCIALIST.
Any Republican who even hints that perhaps the billionaires might not be paying their fair share of taxes would be instantly tarred and feathered, expelled from the party, and branded a SOCIALIST.
Well, I could then argue (if that is the case) that they are absolutely right because that alone is no solution either.
Patrick
2011 Sep 8, 3:24am
Think there might be some connection between the US budget problem, the lack of purchasing power in the middle class, and the gigantic untaxed transfer of wealth from the middle class to the top 0.1%?
No, no connection there, right?
FortWayne
2011 Sep 8, 3:49am
Sound like you agree with Warren Buffett that America coddles the ultra-rich.
But then you'd be straying dangerously close to Democrat territory...
I'm not a Republican by any means. I've seen Republicans just like Democrats, make great speeches and promises and than go back to robbing the middle class.
I wish they would fix tax loopholes or address outsourcing of American jobs or cut their frivolous spending. Yet I have very little faith of anything seriously being done. As Troy pointed out, it would rattle the cage more than sellout politicians like to.
leo707
2011 Sep 8, 4:04am
I'm not a Republican by any means.
Ah, the favorite quote of the GOP shill. I suppose it is to make others think that they are just an impartial observer.
When one spends 99% of their posting effort whining about Obama, liberals and democrats it is hard not to see them as a Newscorp/GOP booster. Even if they later claim that they are not a Republican.
I wish they would fix tax loopholes or address outsourcing of American jobs or cut their frivolous spending. Yet I have very little faith of anything seriously being done. As Troy pointed out, it would rattle the cage more than sellout politicians like to.
Republican or not I do totally agree with this though.
FortWayne
2011 Sep 8, 4:44am
Ah, the favorite quote of the GOP shill. I suppose it is to make others think that they are just an impartial observer.
When one spends 99% of their posting effort whining about Obama, liberals and democrats it is hard not to see them as a Newscorp/GOP booster. Even if they later claim that they are not a Republican.
You just choose to ignore all the Bush bashing.
Â¥
2011 Sep 8, 5:15am
the lack of purchasing power in the middle class
what's left of our purchasing power after the health and energy sectors get their piece goes into houses every month.
That is the nature of land.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progress_and_Poverty
We have a policy deficit in this country. Government has the power to radically rearrange things if it so chooses. They haven't done shit since the 1970s tho, other than liberalize things worse (NAFTA etc).
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This is excellent! Please email to everyone you know, especially people who are 63 or older.
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: I AM 63 & I AM TIRED
*"I'm 63 and I'm Tired"*
/ by Robert A. Hall/
Robert A. Hall is the actor who plays the coroner on CSI if you
watch that show. He also is a Marine Vietnam War veteran.
*/Robert A. Hall is a Marine Vietnam veteran who served five terms
in the Massachusetts State Senate./*
This should be required reading for every man, woman and child in
the United States of America .
*I'm 63*. Except for one semester in college when jobs were scarce
and a six-month period when I was between jobs, but job-hunting
every day, I've worked hard since I was 18. Despite some health
challenges, I still put in 50-hour weeks, and haven't called in sick
in seven or eight years. I make a good salary, but I didn't
inherit my job or my income, and I worked to get where I am. Given
the economy, there's no retirement in sight, and I'm tired. Very
tired.
*I'm tired* of being told that I have to "spread the wealth" to
bankers who don't have my work ethic. I'm tired of being told the
government will take the money I earned, by force if necessary, and
give it to same people who ruined my retirement by gambling with the
whole economy.
*I'm tired* of being told that I have to pay more taxes to "keep
people in their homes." Sure, if they lost their jobs or got sick,
I'm willing to help. But if they bought McMansions at three times
the price of our paid-off, $250,000 condo, on one-third of my
salary, then let the Congress-critters who passed the "Emergency Economic
Stabilization Act of 2008" bank bailout help them with their own money.
*I'm tired* of being told how bad social security and Medicare is for America
by billionaires like the Koch brothers who live in luxury because of the
opportunities America offers. In thirty years, if they get their way, the
United States will have the economy of Zimbabwe , the freedom of the press of
China, the crime and violence of Mexico , the tolerance for Christian people
of Iran , and the freedom of speech of Venezuela ....
*I'm tired* of being told that Islam is a "Religion of Peace," when
every day I can read dozens of stories of Muslim men killing their
sisters, wives and daughters for their family "honor"; of Muslims
rioting over some slight offense; of Muslims murdering Christian and
Jews because they aren't "believers"; of Muslims burning schools for
girls; of Muslims stoning teenage rape victims to death for
"adultery"; of Muslims mutilating the genitals of little girls; all
in the name of Allah, because the Qur'an and Shari'a law tells them
to.
*I'm tired* of being told that "the rich pay most of the taxes" in the
post-fairness world of Wall Street bailouts, when their tax rate is only 15%
on the money they get from Wall Street, while honest working class people pay
28% on money they actually earn. The one honest billionaire, Warren Buffett,
said it best: "There's class warfare, all right, but it's my class, the rich
class, that's making war, and we're winning."
*I think* it's very cool that we have a black president and that a
black child is doing her homework at the desk where Lincoln wrote
the Emancipation Proclamation. I just wish George Bush had not left him with
two wars and a ruined economy. Not a good way to start a presidency.
*I'm tired* of being told that out of "tolerance for other cultures"
we must let Saudi Arabia use our oil money to fund mosques and
mandrassa Islamic schools to preach hate in America , while no
American group is allowed to fund a church, synagogue or religious
school in Saudi Arabia to teach love and tolerance.
*I'm tired* of being told I must lower my living standard every time the
Federal Reserve lowers interest rates on my CDs, which no one is allowed to
debate. We worked hard to save the money we did, but the interest on that is
not going to support us now. It's supporting bankers who get to borrow our
money for almost free, and lend it out at ten times as much interest.
*I'm tired* of being told that drug addicts have a disease, and I
must help support and treat them, and pay for the damage they do.
Did a giant germ rush out of a dark alley, grab them, and stuff
white powder up their noses while they tried to fight it off? I
don't think Gay people choose to be Gay, but I #@*# sure think
druggies chose to take drugs. And I'm tired of harassment from cool
people treating me like a freak when I tell them I never tried
marijuana.
*I'm tired* of illegal aliens being called "undocumented workers," when no one
questions the employers who put them to work in the first place. Don't those
employers have some responsibility here? They sure do know they are employing
illegals, but they never get fined for it. And, no, I'm not against Hispanics.
Most of them are Catholic, and it's been a few hundred years since Catholics
wanted to kill me for my religion. I'm willing to fast track for citizenship
any Hispanic person who doesn't have a criminal record and who is
self-supporting without family on welfare, or who serves honorably for three
years in our military.... Those are the citizens we need.
*I'm tired* of billionaires and their paid-for Fox News journalists, who would
never wear the uniform of the Republic themselves, or let their
privilege-handicapped kids near a recruiting station, sending our boys to die
for their profits. They and their kids can sit at home, never having to make
split-second decisions under life and death circumstances, and bad mouth
better people than themselves. Do bad things happen in war? You bet. Do our
troops sometimes misbehave? Sure. Does this compare with the atrocities that
were the policy of our enemies for the last fifty years and still are? Not even
close. So here's the deal. I'll let myself be subjected to all the humiliation
and abuse that was heaped on terrorists at Abu Ghraib or Gitmo, and the critics
can let themselves be subject to captivity by the Muslims, who tortured and
beheaded Daniel Pearl in Pakistan, or the Muslims who tortured and murdered
Marine Lt. Col. William Higgins in Lebanon, or the Muslims who ran the
blood-spattered Al Qaeda torture rooms our troops found in Iraq, or the Muslims
who cut off the heads of schoolgirls in Indonesia, because the girls were
Christian. Then we'll compare notes. British and American soldiers are the
only troops in history that civilians came to for help and handouts, instead of
hiding from in fear.
*I'm tired* of people telling me that their party has a corner on virtue and
the other party has a corner on corruption. Read the papers; bums are
bipartisan. And I'm tired of people telling me we need bipartisanship. I live
in Arizona , where people applaud when a Democratic congresswoman gets shot,
and then auction off the same kind of gun to raise money for the Republican
party.
*I'm tired* of hearing wealthy bankers and CEOs of both parties talking about
innocent mistakes, stupid mistakes or youthful mistakes, when we all know they
think their only mistake was getting caught. I'm tired of people with a sense
of entitlement, especially the rich ones who want to cut social security for
everone else.
*Speaking of the rich, I'm tired of hearing people who were born rich complain
about taxes. We ask so little of them. The majority of wealth in America is
inherited, and not earned. Sorry to break that news to you folks, but you can
look it up and see it's true. Americans used to require that the very rich
give back a reasonable amount in taxes considering all that America has done
for them and how little we ask of them, but the wealth pimps have to keep
changing the definition of rich so that they can keep evading their taxes. They
make us pay their taxes for them.
*I'm real tired* of bankers who don't take responsibility for their actions.
I'm tired of hearing them blame the economy, or credit rating agencies or
whatever for their problems.
*Yes, I'm tired*. But I'm also glad to be 63. Because, mostly, I'm
not going to have to see the world these people are making. I'm
just sorry for my granddaughter.
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